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The Carrier "deal" is indefensible. - pickle MU

- 12/4/16 08:52:43

Through NAFTA and such we've attempted to extend our - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 12/4/16 10:02:07

Motorola has been doing its part for years.... - Tigrrrr! MU

- 12/4/16 10:10:07

I just don't get why we haven't clean-room/robotic-ized that - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 12/4/16 13:58:48

I'm not going to argue with you - pickle MU

- 12/4/16 09:23:56

I see everything. If we existed in a free market, this "dea - 90Tiger MU - 12/4/16 09:25:41

Are you OK with Trump threatening these folks with - Evenflow MU - 12/4/16 09:37:02

I support the threat, the rhetoric and the mindset. He can't - 90Tiger MU - 12/4/16 09:46:38

Trump needs a hammer, and will get one. - Evenflow MU - 12/4/16 09:59:28

Relax. We aren't going to war, as you imply, and even if - GA Tiger MU - 12/4/16 10:34:50

If the war machine happens, it will be the worst of all - 90Tiger MU - 12/4/16 10:07:15

Jesus (nm) - pickle MU

- 12/4/16 09:50:36

Wrongs exist. Adding another wrong to the pile - pickle MU

- 12/4/16 09:28:13

so if congress reduces the federal corporate tax rate - 90Tiger MU - 12/4/16 09:29:32

That's a straw man (nm) - pickle MU

- 12/4/16 09:30:16

lmfao, yeah, I'd leave it at that if I were you. You've - 90Tiger MU - 12/4/16 09:32:39

I haven't ignored that at all - pickle MU

- 12/4/16 09:36:31

it was a dismissal out of hand and a return to "so don't - 90Tiger MU - 12/4/16 09:39:52

Wrongs weren't being undone - pickle MU

- 12/4/16 09:41:48

if the US immediately drops all OSHA laws, EEOC laws, - 90Tiger MU - 12/4/16 09:49:09

He's demonstrating a mindset, alright (nm) - pickle MU

- 12/4/16 09:53:42

Yeah, I just said that. Nice job explaining yourself - 90Tiger MU - 12/4/16 10:08:26

I didn't imply there were/are with Carrier. If the US govt - 90Tiger MU - 12/4/16 09:47:26

Um, yes, you did. (nm) - pickle MU

- 12/4/16 09:53:17

cool (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/4/16 10:08:38

When you remove all govt intervention in US business, then - 90Tiger MU - 12/4/16 09:23:10

Hogwash - 90Tiger MU - 12/4/16 09:14:16

This global trade issue may be the most complex - GA Tiger MU - 12/4/16 09:27:59

"who has cheated for many years" - pickle MU

- 12/4/16 09:34:07

Dumping government subsidized steel below manufacturing cost - TigerMatt STL - 12/4/16 11:09:26

Nope (nm) - pickle MU

- 12/4/16 12:30:01

That isn't free market. China tried to kill the US steel - TigerMatt STL - 12/4/16 13:00:44

I didn't say that it was free market (nm) - pickle MU

- 12/4/16 18:42:35

Ignoring trademarks. Copying patented product. - GA Tiger MU - 12/4/16 10:29:15

Nothing wrong with either of those things - pickle MU

- 12/4/16 10:33:27

Or, of course, hacking corps to steal mfg secrets on - GA Tiger MU - 12/4/16 10:37:29

Now you're changing the topic - pickle MU

- 12/4/16 11:19:41

You remain an idiot. - GA Tiger MU - 12/4/16 12:12:23

So that's a no (nm) - pickle MU

- 12/4/16 12:29:25

I'll jump in - he calls it cheating. I detailed it above - t - 90Tiger MU - 12/4/16 09:37:32

That's not what's happening, 90. - pickle MU

- 12/4/16 09:40:08

what is happening, you explain it to me rather than jus - 90Tiger MU - 12/4/16 09:49:48

I already have - pickle MU

- 12/4/16 10:01:01

Carrier decided what was in its best interest. And if - 90Tiger MU - 12/4/16 10:09:09

Not really. Someone putting a gun to your head, you may - TigerMatt STL - 12/4/16 11:13:25

35% corp tax rate is a gun to your head, so is OSHA, EEOC, - 90Tiger MU - 12/4/16 11:28:48

well, it sure as hell isn't a "free market" in which Carrier - 90Tiger MU - 12/4/16 09:29:58

the only US policy - Ferg STL - 12/4/16 09:22:58

Not really. Wage differential at least as significant IMO.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 12/4/16 09:29:01

wage differential is not US policy - Ferg STL - 12/4/16 09:31:23

Not counting minimum wage law.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 12/4/16 09:34:50

true, but that should be eliminated - Ferg STL - 12/4/16 09:36:43

why do you keep ignoring all of the other factors I've - 90Tiger MU - 12/4/16 09:40:39

OSHA and EPA should be reined in - Ferg STL - 12/4/16 09:50:16

FDA is horrible. They killed the vaping market which was - TigerMatt STL - 12/4/16 11:18:11

the list is endless, ferg. this isn't a free market you're - 90Tiger MU - 12/4/16 09:50:52

the US has a federal minimum wage. The US has - 90Tiger MU - 12/4/16 09:34:17

Trump - pickle MU

- 12/4/16 09:24:39

I hate to agree with you - Ferg STL - 12/4/16 09:34:28

this isn't a free market. (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/4/16 09:50:16

and apparently it just got less free - Ferg STL - 12/4/16 09:52:39

so reducing carriers state corporate tax = less free? - 90Tiger MU - 12/4/16 10:11:26

why should carrier get preferential treatment? - Ferg STL - 12/4/16 13:42:58

There's that straw man again (nm) - pickle MU

- 12/4/16 10:13:01

I welcome it - pickle MU

- 12/4/16 09:38:08

Trump has nothing to do with it. The state of indiana is - 90Tiger MU - 12/4/16 09:28:13

You aren't being honest - pickle MU

- 12/4/16 09:31:25

Your opinion is duly noted. (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/4/16 09:33:01

That wasn't opinion, Reino (nm) - pickle MU

- 12/4/16 09:34:31

obamacare? environmental restrictions? us reporting - 90Tiger MU - 12/4/16 09:24:18

😂 - Emoji Man MSU - 12/4/16 08:57:43

And 85 million more reasons for us to - GA Tiger MU - 12/4/16 08:40:46

Thanks Obama.... - tigerdb MU - 12/4/16 09:03:30

The year is irrelevant. The point is unchanged.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 12/4/16 09:10:25

Not really irrelevant...the responsible party just got - tigerdb MU - 12/4/16 09:43:27

Never should have gone in there(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 12/4/16 09:03:04

Here's why I said obamacare won't be repealed, - GA Tiger MU - 12/4/16 08:28:34

LOL Amanpour fears for safety of press b/c trump criticizes - 90Tiger MU - 12/4/16 08:22:10

The incredible and undeserved sense of self importance is - hokie VT - 12/4/16 09:05:56

Did she prattle on about all the Trump death threats? - GA Tiger MU - 12/4/16 08:25:01

The cancer of radical liberalism slowly - GA Tiger MU - 12/4/16 08:17:31

Liberals are fascists(nm) - Butcher of Bakersfield STL - 12/4/16 08:20:42

Trump on Twitter is priceless (nm) - DevilsAdvocate MU - 12/4/16 08:14:09

Jg,orange,pickle - JangoFett MU - 12/4/16 01:16:27

Please trump........dump ebt - JangoFett MU - 12/4/16 01:00:11

or at least give them stamps again - El-ahrairah KC - 12/4/16 07:53:30

Top 10 Conspiracy Theories That Turned Out To Be TRUE - JeffB MU

- 12/3/16 23:01:39

Bush Causing Katrina to Occur Has NEVER Been Disproven.(nm) - MU Dylan MU - 12/3/16 23:43:52

What are your thoughts on the actual conspiracies listed - JeffB MU

- 12/4/16 10:06:58

lol that is stupid - Butcher of Bakersfield STL - 12/4/16 04:34:33

He used HAARP to cause it.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 12/4/16 00:27:55

Maybe. HAARP Could Conjure a Tornado from an Alab $hithouse. - MU Dylan MU - 12/4/16 00:44:27

JG's thermite midgets didn't make the list?(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 12/3/16 23:23:32

Your lies didn't? - JG A - 12/4/16 09:59:24

Obama: We've made healthcare more affordable for all - MUTGR MU - 12/3/16 22:23:29

Nice story about a veteran with a 100% disability - Tigrrrr! MU

- 12/3/16 18:23:00

Good stuff. - FaurotFan MU

- 12/3/16 20:10:13

That's awesome...nm - bcoop199 KC - 12/3/16 19:49:02

Very cool. Although it could be noted - jeepdad MU - 12/3/16 19:07:02

nice gesture, misguided sentiment (nm) - pickle MU

- 12/3/16 21:51:52

these days you don't have to be a quadriplegic - tigerfans3 MSSU - 12/3/16 20:22:28

Yes,and one more reason to - GA Tiger MU - 12/3/16 18:38:31

Very cool(nm) - jmlppx MU - 12/3/16 18:25:52

Hey 90. If gov't is not force - its totally useless. - GA Tiger MU - 12/3/16 16:49:11

I disagree - Spanky KU - 12/3/16 17:50:17

doesn't alter in the least that using force or the threat th - 90Tiger MU - 12/4/16 07:41:08

Less than 30% of Americans voted for Trump - El-ahrairah KC - 12/3/16 21:31:51

🍷👨‍❤️‍💋‍👨🍷✅ - Emoji Man MSU - 12/4/16 08:40:35

So a third of the people don't give a ****(nm) - DevilsAdvocate MU - 12/3/16 21:35:08

or prefer not to have an elected king(nm) - El-ahrairah KC - 12/3/16 21:42:08

Ok, but my comment remains. A gov't that - GA Tiger MU - 12/3/16 18:45:18

In pickle's mind, governments can't be sanctioned by the - jmlppx MU - 12/3/16 18:03:45

Almost correct - pickle MU

- 12/4/16 08:58:37

Except that was not true when America was founded - JG A - 12/3/16 18:19:53

RE: Except that was not true when America was founded - jmlppx MU - 12/3/16 18:23:14

it will not shrink anymore than the population will - Butcher of Bakersfield STL - 12/3/16 20:57:38

pickle also believes in Darwinian evolution of life - Butcher of Bakersfield STL - 12/3/16 18:11:39

You don't know anything about my beliefs (nm) - pickle MU

- 12/3/16 18:20:12

such a hypocrite(nm) - Butcher of Bakersfield STL - 12/3/16 19:41:19

that's due largely to your incredible ability to - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 19:22:50

no (nm) - pickle MU

- 12/3/16 21:48:57

Yes, your ability to articulate your views brings incredible - 90Tiger MU - 12/4/16 07:41:35

No - pickle MU

- 12/4/16 08:56:03

I'm not referring in the least to that poster. (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/4/16 09:15:03

Well - pickle MU

- 12/4/16 09:26:35

Nor do we care (nm) - Tigrrrr! MU

- 12/3/16 18:53:44

lmfao (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 18:45:06

RE: pickle also believes in Darwinian evolution of life - sarasotatiger MU - 12/3/16 18:20:05

In the long term, Pickle may be right. (nm) - DevilsAdvocate MU - 12/3/16 18:11:18

he is right. it doesn't imply we shouldn't debate specifc - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 18:45:50

and yes, good post (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 17:33:27

he knows that and thats not relevant to his point, but - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 17:33:13

welp(nm) - MizzouAstro MU

- 12/3/16 17:12:22

Probably your best post ever. (nm) - Evenflow MU - 12/3/16 17:09:12

OH MY GOD - JG A - 12/3/16 17:03:02

another post which contains nothing. it's a pickle post - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 17:34:01

LOL damn - JG A - 12/3/16 17:36:06

and again (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 18:46:06

You look like a buffoon - JG A - 12/3/16 19:05:39

and again (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 19:23:11

LOL indeed - JG A - 12/4/16 12:44:50

Another example you cant follow some conversations.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 12/3/16 18:44:39

Hows that? - JG A - 12/3/16 19:06:14

More proof you just dont get it sometimes. (nm) - TigerMatt STL - 12/3/16 19:33:39

LOL GD you are stupid - JG A - 12/4/16 10:01:17

Your preferred denomination or religion ?....... - FaurotFan MU

- 12/3/16 17:05:31

irrelevant and none of your business (nm) - pickle MU

- 12/3/16 17:14:18

ANSWER ME GEORGE!!!!............ - FaurotFan MU

- 12/3/16 17:13:27

I already did before you posted that - JG A - 12/3/16 17:15:22

A lapsed copyright (lapsed?) made this film a classic - pickle MU

- 12/3/16 16:48:28

I love it. The fire chief of Oakland Ca is a black female. - GA Tiger MU - 12/3/16 16:25:47

Oh, I guess being black makes her stupid and a woman - raskolnikov MU - 12/3/16 16:39:10

the libs have made everything political u 1/2 wit nm - yy4u MU - 12/3/16 19:43:57

Hilarious. Ras posting that sentence? - RHAYWORTH MU - 12/3/16 16:49:33

I thought georgia's post was stupid. Unless he knows - hokie VT - 12/3/16 16:58:48

Well thats a pretty dumb guess. If she's a chief, - GA Tiger MU - 12/3/16 16:41:08

He's a senile racist - JG A - 12/3/16 16:40:26

Yes(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 12/3/16 17:43:42

I yawn at the word racist - Butcher of Bakersfield STL - 12/3/16 16:45:04

It's not an ad hom (nm) - pickle MU

- 12/3/16 17:32:41

Yes it is. And the demlibs have completely diminished - MIZ45 MU - 12/3/16 18:53:15

I was speaking generally - Butcher of Bakersfield STL - 12/3/16 17:37:58

RE: I was speaking generally - JG A - 12/3/16 17:52:49

Yawning is rude, so is lying - JG A - 12/3/16 16:51:21

Actually, lying may be courteous. - GA Tiger MU - 12/3/16 16:53:47

True. I could call JG a cornucopia of crapulence. - RHAYWORTH MU - 12/3/16 17:18:20

so stop(nm) - Butcher of Bakersfield STL - 12/3/16 16:52:44

Its not that its overly used. Its that its MISused at - GA Tiger MU - 12/3/16 16:47:35

most of what is called racist is actually ethnocentrism - Butcher of Bakersfield STL - 12/3/16 16:48:39

The first thing that needs to be done in this discussion, - GA Tiger MU - 12/3/16 16:50:56

So that would mean that calif is not ****ed up, or - GA Tiger MU - 12/3/16 16:33:52

government is force, the fire chief is force (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 16:34:46

My infinite wisdom is force also. Now, if only - GA Tiger MU - 12/3/16 16:39:11

RE: I love it. The fire chief of Oakland Ca is a black female. - meatiger MU - 12/3/16 16:33:10

government is force (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 16:33:37

That is correct- for all you know - JG A - 12/3/16 16:30:37

Can she carry a 200 lb man up a flight of stairs? If not, - tigerNkc KC - 12/3/16 20:49:15

Hey, doesn't really matter. Assuming she - GA Tiger MU - 12/3/16 16:36:43

at least GAT doesn't hide his racism and sexism - pickle MU

- 12/3/16 16:34:24

You must give him that, most try to ru n from it - JG A - 12/3/16 16:41:32

Its easy for me, since I don't know how to run from - GA Tiger MU - 12/3/16 16:46:07

Thats correct- you are so damn clueless - JG A - 12/3/16 16:52:07

Oh lordy, another devastating rebuttal, in the - GA Tiger MU - 12/3/16 16:58:03

You are a weak firefly but OK - JG A - 12/3/16 17:01:04

This thread is moot - the Fire Chief exists only by force - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 16:35:58

RE: That is correct- for all you know - Butcher of Bakersfield STL - 12/3/16 16:34:18

nobody can be qualified to be FC - it exists by force withou - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 16:35:25

Moot point - fire chiefs exist only by force, so who give - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 16:31:47

government is force, the fire chief is force, you are wrong - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 16:26:28

government is force hence anything govt does is bad - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 16:11:49

Taxation is theft(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 12/3/16 16:20:23

Straw man (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 16:24:09

Yes. And therfore fund illegal interstate highways and - jmlppx MU - 12/3/16 16:23:59

hence, discussing fiscal policy is moot and govt is evil - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 16:24:41

Pickle is a tool. Schools are illegal too, you know(nm) - jmlppx MU - 12/3/16 16:27:33

government is force (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 16:28:06

😂(nm) - jmlppx MU - 12/3/16 16:13:54

OMG!!!!!! Run! Run to your safe space, snowflake!!!! - Tigrrrr! MU

- 12/3/16 15:10:11

PEOPLE make her sick. She obviously considers herself - hokie VT - 12/3/16 15:24:34

Or - Hbombtiger STL - 12/3/16 15:47:27

Either way, anyone who says PEOPLE make me sick is - hokie VT - 12/3/16 16:16:23

Or, jerkette. - GA Tiger MU - 12/3/16 16:27:19

RE: PEOPLE make her sick. She obviously considers herself - JangoFett MU - 12/3/16 15:25:05

There's no way that's real. - Zeaux MU

- 12/3/16 15:15:29

Nope. Just check out interviews with millenials. They - jmlppx MU - 12/3/16 15:30:23

Thank you baby boomers (nm) - Hbombtiger STL - 12/3/16 15:42:17

It's on social media. It doesn't have to be real - Tigrrrr! MU

- 12/3/16 15:16:52

RE: It's on social media. It doesn't have to be real - JangoFett MU - 12/3/16 15:24:46

Like you - pickle MU

- 12/3/16 15:18:32

Like you trust Snopes. - Tigrrrr! MU

- 12/3/16 15:22:12

Haha. Snopes. What a joke(nm) - jmlppx MU - 12/3/16 15:30:59

But let me guess, you trust Wikileaks (nm) - Hbombtiger STL - 12/3/16 15:43:02

Nope. I don't trust much of anything on the internet, - jmlppx MU - 12/3/16 15:46:48

Have we gotten so focused on philosophy that we - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 14:15:17

Everyone is always focused on a philosophy - ummmm MU - 12/3/16 18:39:37

RE: Have we gotten so focused on philosophy that we - MUTGR MU - 12/3/16 16:19:21

Racism and nationalism - pickle MU

- 12/3/16 16:22:13

government is force. globalism is great, Ecomics in 1 - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 16:27:36

You left out the ubiquitous straw man. nm. - MUTGR MU - 12/3/16 16:35:56

Name calling. What did I say was factually inaccurate? - MUTGR MU - 12/3/16 16:24:12

government is force, check your premise, strawman - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 16:28:39

What name did I call you? - pickle MU

- 12/3/16 16:26:32

government is force (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 16:29:20

Yes, some on this board focus entirely on philosophy. - RHAYWORTH MU - 12/3/16 15:11:06

RE: Yes, some on this board focus entirely on philosophy. - JangoFett MU - 12/3/16 15:40:20

philosophy matters, but so does practical decision making (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 15:44:27

Nothing in your blind defense of the Carrier "deal" - pickle MU

- 12/3/16 15:53:58

Your opinion is duly noted. I'm glad you are seeing and - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 15:56:44

Of course calling you blind is on me - pickle MU

- 12/3/16 16:00:00

Great, thanks for explaining why. That you're too lazy to - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 16:02:42

Why should I? - pickle MU

- 12/3/16 16:08:11

so why did you bother to comment at all? (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 16:10:35

Because you wanted to know "why" - pickle MU

- 12/3/16 16:14:28

good lord. (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 16:20:06

Sorry that's inconvenient for you - pickle MU

- 12/3/16 16:23:40

RE: Sorry that's inconvenient for you - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 16:25:10

Perfect - pickle MU

- 12/3/16 16:27:37

Government is force (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 16:29:33

RE: Yes, some on this board focus entirely on philosophy. - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 15:28:17

Not a single person on this board - pickle MU

- 12/3/16 15:14:54

Pickletopians now have ESP ? Capable of mind reading? - RHAYWORTH MU - 12/3/16 15:17:09

I didn't tell you what you think - pickle MU

- 12/3/16 15:19:26

govt is force (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 16:32:01

Nobody is a neocon because they support national defense - JG A - 12/3/16 15:14:23

Government solely exists by force - pickle MU

- 12/3/16 15:04:27

thanks for making my point; so let's never ever EVER - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 15:29:50

Yes, I do - it exists solely by force, it is illegitimate. - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 15:49:16

No you don't (nm) - pickle MU

- 12/3/16 15:47:59

RE: No you don't (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 15:50:46

Repeating my words - pickle MU

- 12/3/16 15:55:59

Nope, but I know it is true. Hence, there is never - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 16:04:35

But you don't - pickle MU

- 12/3/16 16:10:06

government is force and the economy of Mexico is - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 16:11:14

Keep focusing on economies of governments, - pickle MU

- 12/3/16 16:16:16

you've made no point to which i can respond. (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 16:20:56

I know (nm) - pickle MU

- 12/3/16 16:24:08

government is force (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 16:29:48

Sure thing, Rainman(nm) - Tigrrrr! MU

- 12/3/16 15:15:44

Straw man (nm) - TigerMatt STL - 12/3/16 15:05:18

Not even in the same universe (nm) - pickle MU

- 12/3/16 15:10:11

Cowardly lion (nm) - MUTGR MU - 12/3/16 15:49:11

anyone want to answer this post seriously? I'd - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 14:46:12

Forget philosophy - JG A - 12/3/16 14:23:06

how was he involved - in terms of facts you know only? - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 14:26:25

Thats a good point , Trump is a liar - JG A - 12/3/16 14:32:30

So you're stopping short of stating you think this - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 14:44:32

It certainly establishes a bad prededent - Ferg STL - 12/3/16 14:56:34

there is no precedent here - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 15:26:40

Your subject line is correct - pickle MU

- 12/3/16 15:52:29

thanks for explaining why, again. "A is wrong" isn't - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 16:05:54

Yes, Obama involved himself in the private sector - Ferg STL - 12/3/16 15:33:36

no, states have been offering tax incentives to corporations - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 15:49:50

That's not why they changed their decision. - Ferg STL - 12/3/16 16:17:03

You know it, I know it - pickle MU

- 12/3/16 16:19:10

So clearly you didn't read THESE posts FROM ME: - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 16:23:46

I read every one of them - pickle MU

- 12/3/16 16:25:24

RE: I read every one of them - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 16:25:40

#MAGA (nm) - pickle MU

- 12/3/16 16:28:21

government is force (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 16:29:58

Tigrrr already has this schtick (nm) - pickle MU

- 12/3/16 16:32:46

govt is force - you're worth no more than what you - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 16:33:22

Now that is a strawman - pickle MU

- 12/3/16 16:01:24

well Trump didn't involve the federal govt tax or $ in any - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 16:06:43

It's not a red herring - pickle MU

- 12/3/16 16:18:06

RE: It's not a red herring - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 16:25:26

Enjoy that steak (nm) - pickle MU

- 12/3/16 16:32:00

govt is force (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 16:32:12

You're decades and centuries too late for that (nm) - pickle MU

- 12/3/16 15:12:10

I can only point out that for the most part the signs - JG A - 12/3/16 14:51:08

JG calls everyone a liar - Butcher of Bakersfield STL - 12/3/16 14:47:31

You just lied, the reason you lied - JG A - 12/3/16 14:49:40

What did he say that was a lie?(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 12/3/16 14:52:14

LOL - JG A - 12/3/16 14:56:39

maybe my use of everyone - Butcher of Bakersfield STL - 12/3/16 14:54:44

Not even a tiny percentage on this board - JG A - 12/3/16 14:57:24

He is a bit autistic when it comes to language.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 12/3/16 14:56:42

I do understand it yes - JG A - 12/3/16 15:08:46

No, you don't, and your own post just proved it again. - RHAYWORTH MU - 12/3/16 15:14:34

I don't routinely call anyone a liar that - JG A - 12/3/16 15:21:48

Abstract use of language is lost on you. That is why you - TigerMatt STL - 12/3/16 15:13:48

LOl Ok clown, point out just one example - JG A - 12/3/16 15:21:05

Easy - TigerMatt STL - 12/3/16 15:24:38

LOL if thats the best you can do -then epic fail - JG A - 12/3/16 15:28:15

Again, the abstract is lost on you.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 12/3/16 16:04:20

LOl I'm not even thinking you understand - JG A - 12/3/16 16:14:08

If you didnt have an autistic understanding of language - TigerMatt STL - 12/3/16 16:23:34

LOL point to any time , JUST ONE, - JG A - 12/3/16 16:33:11

Already did.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 12/3/16 18:43:30

LOL no simpleton - JG A - 12/4/16 12:45:31

The President should only regulate and strangle business - Uncle Fester USMC - 12/3/16 14:29:46

EXACTLY. hence my post below. (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 14:44:54

The President should set high level policy - Ferg STL - 12/3/16 14:39:58

is that in the Constitution? - Butcher of Bakersfield STL - 12/3/16 14:43:10

Sure, Nothing prevents him from negotiating with the private - Uncle Fester USMC - 12/3/16 14:49:41

The bigger jobs bang will come from Trump's embrace of - MUTGR MU - 12/3/16 14:10:15

Deregulation, friendly business environment will be HUGE! - RHAYWORTH MU - 12/3/16 14:16:32

LOL simpletons think - JG A - 12/3/16 14:48:13

your post has no point, no argument, no position - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 15:31:01

it got right to the chase - JG A - 12/3/16 15:38:54

you've just made a new discussion, thanks. no one is - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 16:09:07

Your desperate attempts to try and make me look - JG A - 12/3/16 16:29:04

you did't respond to that, you responded with your - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 16:31:07

LOL damn. In response to your claim that - JG A - 12/3/16 16:36:57

My business has went from flatlined to busy after the - Uncle Fester USMC - 12/3/16 14:27:15

Most businesses do increase business this time of year... - SparkyStalcup MU - 12/3/16 14:49:49

Christmas is irrelevant to my business - Uncle Fester USMC - 12/3/16 14:52:41

I thought you made little bells for cat collars.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 12/3/16 15:04:55

Mine has slowed down somewhat - JG A - 12/3/16 14:33:55

Has gone. - glue MU - 12/3/16 14:30:04

Not according to my english to hillbilly translator boy - Uncle Fester USMC - 12/3/16 14:33:00

That's not hillbilly; that's just stupid. - glue MU - 12/3/16 14:41:30

poverty is a greater threat to humans - Butcher of Bakersfield STL - 12/3/16 14:12:54

Ima greater threat to humans than climate change or poverty - Uncle Fester USMC - 12/3/16 14:16:28

RE: Ima greater threat to humans than climate change or poverty - Butcher of Bakersfield STL - 12/3/16 14:19:17

I Luv that guy ! - Uncle Fester USMC - 12/3/16 14:31:41

Ras, sparky will start calling for fester regulation. - RHAYWORTH MU - 12/3/16 14:19:06

You're not making any sense, as usual. nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 12/3/16 14:51:07

I forgot that progressives have no sense of humor. - RHAYWORTH MU - 12/3/16 17:29:51

fester waiting period?(nm) - Butcher of Bakersfield STL - 12/3/16 14:20:32

Yes, add to that the absolute population explosion in - MUTGR MU - 12/3/16 14:15:27

I'm heading out. This is going to be a long 4 years. - ummmm MU - 12/3/16 13:43:14

So you prefer their big government to Trumps? - escalade NWMSU - 12/3/16 13:50:53

No, that's not what he implied - pickle MU

- 12/3/16 16:05:20

Trump is ALL big govt. Pay attention(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 12/3/16 14:01:13

You should be happy then! (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 14:15:39

Does that bother you? I dare you to answer.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 12/3/16 14:14:10

I rightly don't give a sht, but it is funny when your great - raskolnikov MU - 12/3/16 14:39:21

Wtf are you talking about... - escalade NWMSU - 12/3/16 14:11:19

His solutions are all publicly provided other than of course - raskolnikov MU - 12/3/16 14:40:29

The Carrier solution and his proposed iinfrastructure policy - SparkyStalcup MU - 12/3/16 14:56:06

handouts are reductions in tax from states? been going on - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 16:07:57

Your last point is correct... - escalade NWMSU - 12/3/16 15:02:58

lol, "against the govt". yeah, indiana cutting taxes on - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 13:48:55

Mexioc or Canada - Butcher of Bakersfield STL - 12/3/16 13:44:53

Meanwhile, Trump is probably on the phone trying to save - MUTGR MU - 12/3/16 13:44:26

I value not over paying for air conditioning... - escalade NWMSU - 12/3/16 13:52:49

If Obama would have done a Carrier deal - Butcher of Bakersfield STL - 12/3/16 13:46:17

and the right would be screaming bloody murder - tigerdb MU - 12/3/16 13:50:27

conservatives might. republicans would not - blake1771 KC - 12/3/16 14:00:07

good point (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 14:07:29

The point is Obama couldn't be bothered to do something - MUTGR MU - 12/3/16 13:52:39

the president really can't do anything about one company - tigerdb MU - 12/3/16 13:55:21

the president thought enough to have a concern (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 14:08:06

Rexnord is next up ... here you go.... - MUTGR MU - 12/3/16 14:04:04

The deal didn't get done without Trump, period. Nm. - MUTGR MU - 12/3/16 13:57:53

Trump seems to know the art of the deal(nm) - Butcher of Bakersfield STL - 12/3/16 13:59:48

That's what I've heard l(nm) - MUTGR MU - 12/3/16 14:02:13

If it were a state tax deal, i doubt it. (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 13:51:48

Obama would have made it a federal tax deal. (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 13:49:45

So its wrong for Trump to take a call from the President of - MUTGR MU - 12/3/16 13:35:02

There is only one way to deal with a bully. - GA Tiger MU - 12/3/16 13:41:12

No bigger bully in the world than China. And since when - MUTGR MU - 12/3/16 13:50:41

If Trump wouldn't have taken the call - Sal KC - 12/3/16 13:40:49

it is only the beginning oh pantless one - Butcher of Bakersfield STL - 12/3/16 13:42:12

can some link a mainstream media article about the growing - Butcher of Bakersfield STL - 12/3/16 13:32:30

It's not extremism when they've taken over. - Zeaux MU

- 12/3/16 13:44:27

ALT LEFT!!! (nm) - Sal KC - 12/3/16 13:34:02

Fascinating that state governments offer tax incentives - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 13:24:11

It is a race to the bottom - raskolnikov MU - 12/3/16 14:02:34

Only kind of race you lefties excel at , and win. - RHAYWORTH MU - 12/3/16 14:20:36

LOL Rhayworthlessiny - JG A - 12/3/16 14:27:29

your post has no point, no argument, no position - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 14:18:54

Exactly - as pointed out on the day the deal "leaked"... - tigerdb MU - 12/3/16 13:45:45

Major Major - JG A - 12/3/16 13:59:39

Trump shouldn't get credit for anything other than the - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 13:51:17

Pence's govt incented carrier to leave? Obamacare costs - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 13:50:29

Pence obviously didn't make the deal sweet enough to save - tigerdb MU - 12/3/16 13:52:38

lol, 2 posts ago you blamed Pence for the jobs moving - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 14:08:56

It happens regularly on the MO/KS state line - Sal KC - 12/3/16 13:30:53

Precisely correct....it happens in cities, counties, and - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 13:31:43

Can you link to where someone said or implied this was new? - JG A - 12/3/16 13:26:45

Sure - every post calling it "precedent". Next ? * - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 13:28:27

Only one of those linked posts is even close - JG A - 12/3/16 13:52:44

he was and many others have been crying about precedent - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 14:17:48

Well that may very well be precedenting - JG A - 12/3/16 14:26:51

you mean your pence breaks? (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 14:29:20

You're omitting the other part of the story again - ummmm MU - 12/3/16 13:26:27

You're not arguing "the other part of the story" you keep - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 13:30:55

Madness - pickle MU

- 12/3/16 15:45:44

RE: Madness - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 16:26:04

RE: You're not arguing "the other part of the story" you keep - ummmm MU - 12/3/16 13:33:46

Ummm - govt caused the higher costs by having high - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 13:34:54

For, what, the 9th time today, I am cheerful of removing - ummmm MU - 12/3/16 13:39:05

I still haven't heard your argument as to why the federal - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 13:42:52

There are 400 McDonald's in Indiana with presumably - ummmm MU - 12/3/16 12:34:32

Trump I hope would stand against the cause - Butcher of Bakersfield STL - 12/3/16 13:35:56

False equivalence - Sal KC - 12/3/16 13:27:33

It isn't (nm) - pickle MU

- 12/3/16 15:28:28

False use of false equivalence. - ummmm MU - 12/3/16 13:31:26

You think it's an "unimportant detail" in an ECONOMIC - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 13:36:05

No, it's a false equivalence - Sal KC - 12/3/16 13:32:48

I don't see the important difference in your version - ummmm MU - 12/3/16 18:38:35

No, the problem is the moving to a different economy (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 13:37:17

I'm saying in his comparison to McDonalds - Sal KC - 12/3/16 13:40:12

And you're wrong (nm) - pickle MU

- 12/3/16 15:30:00

Your opinion is duly noted. (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 16:07:15

It's not opinion (nm) - pickle MU

- 12/3/16 16:53:59

That would be a dysfunctional and hopeless policy. - GA Tiger MU - 12/3/16 12:49:35

Still the newfound socialists RCW RCW RCW RCW RCW - JG A - 12/3/16 13:11:00

Why the need to attempt to equate domestic automation - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 12:42:11

Jobs - JG A - 12/3/16 13:02:17

Because it is the same concept. - ummmm MU - 12/3/16 12:44:13

No it's not (nm) - Sal KC - 12/3/16 13:27:43

It's not the same concept at all. The govt was already - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 13:12:55

It is the same (nm) - pickle MU

- 12/3/16 15:31:39

The tax breaks are a great thing (and a sign that more are - ummmm MU - 12/3/16 13:14:25

I never argued it's "the whole story" anywhere, in any - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 13:15:12

Then what is the "leveraging its buying power" thing about? - ummmm MU - 12/3/16 13:15:56

I explained it many times. I believe (and hope) Trump - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 13:17:48

That is a terrible thing to support. - ummmm MU - 12/3/16 13:21:02

Ummmm, I'm astonished by your sudden interest in State - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 13:25:38

I've been posting about this all day - ummmm MU - 12/3/16 13:27:30

So what's all the fuss about the unseen costs you keep - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 13:32:12

It's about the federal government leveraging its buying - ummmm MU - 12/3/16 13:36:09

Why should the US govt not leverage buying power? Should - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 13:38:15

Because it is unearned buying power, they don't act with - ummmm MU - 12/3/16 13:40:49

your argument is against govt being a buyer - which is - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 13:44:00

By eliminating itself (nm) - ummmm MU - 12/3/16 18:34:11

It's not the same, but if McDonalds moved its restaurants - MUTGR MU - 12/3/16 12:45:45

The concepts are the same. - ummmm MU - 12/3/16 12:47:49

no, one is inside of the US economy, the other isn't - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 13:14:47

It's the same (nm) - pickle MU

- 12/3/16 15:35:05

govt is force (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 16:32:50

The concept is saving a domestic job - ummmm MU - 12/3/16 13:17:03

No, the "unseen" factors of one are all inside one - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 13:18:41

What if the jobs were moving to Alaska? (nm) - ummmm MU - 12/3/16 13:19:38

If they were moving to Alaska, Pence and the Alaska - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 13:27:17

Indiana would be losing out on your "unseen" positive - ummmm MU - 12/3/16 13:29:22

Yes, and Alaska would be gaining, all inside the US - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 13:33:47

Well then maybe the solution is to have one world government - ummmm MU - 12/3/16 13:35:36

You're the one talking about unseen factors in other - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 13:40:37

That is crazy. - ummmm MU - 12/3/16 13:42:22

Crazy? you changed the fact that PR is now part of the US - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 13:53:21

No, I am an individualist - ummmm MU - 12/3/16 18:36:06

Wow - pickle MU

- 12/3/16 15:37:45

or Guam? (nm) - ummmm MU - 12/3/16 13:20:02

Machines have always been irrationally feared.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 12/3/16 12:38:37

The jokes write themselves here(nm) - JG A - 12/3/16 13:03:05

Same with Mexicans (nm) - ummmm MU - 12/3/16 12:44:29

same with rural whites(nm) - Butcher of Bakersfield STL - 12/3/16 12:55:31

True (nm) - ummmm MU - 12/3/16 12:56:05

Anti-robotism is on the rise .(nm) - MUTGR MU - 12/3/16 12:44:00

RE: There are 400 McDonald's in Indiana with presumably - MUTGR MU - 12/3/16 12:36:43

Do you support that or not? (nm) - ummmm MU - 12/3/16 12:42:16

RE: Do you support that or not? (nm) - MUTGR MU - 12/3/16 12:43:22

The concepts are the same. You're saving jobs despite the - ummmm MU - 12/3/16 12:45:23

As to your "negative costs", it's been pointed out - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 13:16:36

This entire time, I've acknowledged that I don't know the - ummmm MU - 12/3/16 13:18:58

So the US should move all of its factories to Mexico? - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 14:28:50

No, each company should make this decision - ummmm MU - 12/3/16 18:37:03

Apples and oranges. nm. - MUTGR MU - 12/3/16 12:46:16

Yeah, I suppose it's like this - ummmm MU - 12/3/16 12:49:09

It is simply amazing to me what fairy tales these folks - Evenflow MU - 12/3/16 12:53:25

The Hitler reference. Talk about fairy tales...that's - MUTGR MU - 12/3/16 12:57:05

In all seriousness, - Evenflow MU - 12/3/16 12:58:16

a state governor offers tax incentives for a company to - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 13:19:37

Oh, but you left out the DOD carrot/bribe/collusion/scam - Evenflow MU - 12/3/16 13:25:48

That, to me, is the best part of this. The DOD is a - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 14:20:38

RE: Oh, but you left out the DOD carrot/bribe/collusion/scam - MUTGR MU - 12/3/16 13:35:57

Seriously. Do I have to remind these guys why we all hated - ummmm MU - 12/3/16 12:55:40

RE: Seriously. Do I have to remind these guys why we all hated - MUTGR MU - 12/3/16 12:58:54

It hasn't been forgotten - pickle MU

- 12/3/16 15:42:10

Look I am cautiously optimistic that Trump can, even if at - ummmm MU - 12/3/16 13:04:23

I voted for Trump. - Evenflow MU - 12/3/16 13:09:27

I didn't vote, but if Trump doesn't open any new - ummmm MU - 12/3/16 13:13:05

You just indicated a couple weeks ago that you were finally - Evenflow MU - 12/3/16 13:00:02

RE: You just indicated a couple weeks ago that you were finally - MUTGR MU - 12/3/16 13:07:15

Sounds like you're back in a fantasy world. (nm) - Evenflow MU - 12/3/16 13:10:13

Speaking of Europe, Italy could be the next domino to fall - MUTGR MU - 12/3/16 12:24:35

Brexit, Trump and the far right stoke fear in Brussels... - MUTGR MU - 12/3/16 12:10:43

Of course, a lot of EU high paid bureaucrats at risk. - RHAYWORTH MU - 12/3/16 12:21:35

"Far right" = anything not liberal - Sal KC - 12/3/16 12:11:59

Ironic thing is the story focuses on a young jewish - MUTGR MU - 12/3/16 12:15:48

Nazis were not far right - Butcher of Bakersfield STL - 12/3/16 12:18:52

RE: Nazis were not far right - MUTGR MU - 12/3/16 12:23:41

I've always considered them right but regardless - GA Tiger MU - 12/3/16 12:31:42

There are faint glimmerings in the EU that - GA Tiger MU - 12/3/16 12:14:35

Why is it white people are inherently racist and bigoted, - MUTGR MU - 12/3/16 12:31:52

Beats what they got I guess. But why do you - GA Tiger MU - 12/3/16 13:36:30

Fits the narrative - Sal KC - 12/3/16 12:32:38

exactly, when do you hear the media talk of the "far left" - Butcher of Bakersfield STL - 12/3/16 12:13:19

To them it doesn't exist ... it's just what's right in - Sal KC - 12/3/16 12:15:04

Trump is already mending fences with our allies abroad... - MUTGR MU - 12/3/16 10:33:15

He is great! - Mr. Orange SU - 12/3/16 12:31:27

It's great to have a real President again. A strong leader. - MUTGR MU - 12/3/16 12:34:50

one of the most corrupt countries - El-ahrairah KC - 12/3/16 11:58:52

RE: one of the most corrupt countries - MUTGR MU - 12/3/16 12:01:57

RE: Trump is already mending fences with our allies abroad... - MUTGR MU - 12/3/16 11:18:14

I am of two minds here. First there seems to be an issue of - hokie VT - 12/3/16 11:16:19

Hell he may as well overreach - Sal KC - 12/3/16 12:00:30

Agree generally, though speaking to another country - GA Tiger MU - 12/3/16 12:00:14

Probably the other way around, given the outrageous - GA Tiger MU - 12/3/16 11:13:05

What do you mean, the other way around? (nm) - Sal KC - 12/3/16 11:59:05

Duerte should be mending fences if anyone. We have - GA Tiger MU - 12/3/16 12:03:29

I've been in lots of bars and restaurants, have yet to see - MUTGR MU - 12/3/16 10:29:53

same here - Sal KC - 12/3/16 12:10:16

RE: same here - MUTGR MU - 12/3/16 12:53:58

RE: I've been in lots of bars and restaurants, have yet to see - Tigrrrr! MU

- 12/3/16 10:39:42

A great article on the Carrier deal - ummmm MU - 12/3/16 09:42:22

Just a massive amount of butthurt. - justwinbaby KC - 12/3/16 14:22:12

It's a shortsighted deal - Ferg STL - 12/3/16 11:19:34

Yeah, I don't think those numbers are correct - Sal KC - 12/3/16 12:11:04

1100 workers staying out of 2400 - JG A - 12/3/16 13:19:29

2100 were moving, not "at risk". (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 15:31:55

2400 and from an American POV - JG A - 12/3/16 16:44:22

it's an odd reaction, isn't it? (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 12:40:06

Only Indiana made a tax deal, there aren't 330,000,000 - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 11:45:41

Why did donald cut a deal with Carrier to move 600 jobs to - tigerdb MU - 12/3/16 10:50:32

Because anecdotes (no matter that over half - JG A - 12/3/16 11:01:01

Ah, so you think this is not only philosophically wrong but - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 11:17:23

With the exception of the workers in question and their - JG A - 12/3/16 12:34:05

how is that? (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 12:40:29

Well those workers keep their jobs - JG A - 12/3/16 12:41:58

Yes, how does it hurt others elsewhere - other than - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 12:42:45

higher prices - JG A - 12/3/16 13:04:41

higher prices for what? carrier just saved 7 million in - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 14:22:21

air conditioners - JG A - 12/3/16 18:03:57

so you like the government dictating operational strategy - Ferg STL - 12/3/16 11:21:49

dictate? Carrier could have opted to move the position - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 11:46:20

They're moving 600; were never going to move 300 of those - tigerdb MU - 12/3/16 11:50:40

what are you talking about? UTX planned to move 2100 - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 11:56:39

trump "saved" 800 - claimed 1,100 Carrier jobs; - tigerdb MU - 12/3/16 12:18:44

so you agree 800 jobs are staying. fine (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 12:38:43

Probably only needed one photo op (nm) - ummmm MU - 12/3/16 10:51:42

Yay, American jobs suck. nm. - MUTGR MU - 12/3/16 10:30:36

Jobs should never be the focus. - ummmm MU - 12/3/16 10:32:31

Jobs for the working class should absolutely be the focus - MUTGR MU - 12/3/16 11:07:47

Yes with middle ages level productivity. Productivity is - TigerMatt STL - 12/3/16 10:57:23

Myopic and simplistic opinion piece lacking facts and logic - Salty Dog MU

- 12/3/16 10:12:50

Republigistians don't really believe in the free market - JG A - 12/3/16 10:40:39

RE: Republigistians don't really believe in the free market - Uncle Fester USMC - 12/3/16 11:23:26

some don't - Ferg STL - 12/3/16 11:17:18

Some might - JG A - 12/3/16 12:42:44

it certainly focuses only on one half of the "unseen" - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 10:24:37

Trump cannot apply tariffs to Carrier - raskolnikov MU - 12/3/16 10:11:45

Progressives who put corporate profits over American jobs. n - MUTGR MU - 12/3/16 10:31:48

^^ Been listening to the myopic simplicity and bias of NPR - Salty Dog MU

- 12/3/16 10:17:38

Haven't listened to NPR in a long while, that is just - raskolnikov MU - 12/3/16 10:26:30

the comparison to the auto bailout is funny. this isn't - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 11:55:35

Toro is the one who brought it up(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 12/3/16 12:33:18

Well, at least, you are now learning the nature of govt. (nm) - ummmm MU - 12/3/16 10:17:25

RE: A great article on the Carrier deal - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 10:10:43

Everything about this story is speculative, but we should - ummmm MU - 12/3/16 10:15:32

That's all well and good but considering the unseen in - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 10:16:55

You have to totally remove the DoD from your analysis - ummmm MU - 12/3/16 10:19:19

Removing the DoD is absurd, they are a business agent - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 10:22:06

If the exercise is to determine whether or not keeping - ummmm MU - 12/3/16 10:27:43

is that the exercise? to determine where in the globe - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 11:15:34

The exercise, from the article in my OP, is to determine - ummmm MU - 12/3/16 11:49:12

is the facility operating at higher costs given the tax - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 12:05:50

Lots of assumptions and what ifs in that article. - tiger4real MU - 12/3/16 09:46:35

Here's what I think is probable. - Evenflow MU - 12/3/16 09:59:27

"to threaten their livelihood"? you mean to ensure they - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 10:11:29

I realize you've become a big Trump Fan now but - Evenflow MU - 12/3/16 10:14:20

Sure, but isn't that a different conversation and issue - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 10:17:39

His 'angle' is the 600 dollar toilet seat, basically.(nm) - Evenflow MU - 12/3/16 10:26:15

in other words, he got a deal done. - tiger4real MU - 12/3/16 10:07:53

I mean, if that's what you think government's role is, - Evenflow MU - 12/3/16 10:12:21

Yes I would. - tiger4real MU - 12/3/16 10:23:21

The Carrier deal is a threat. (nm) - Evenflow MU - 12/3/16 10:27:01

to whom?nm - tiger4real MU - 12/3/16 10:29:07

Any other company who tries to do what Trump - Evenflow MU - 12/3/16 10:30:24

any other company doing business with the US? getting - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 11:22:01

we'll see about that. I don't think so.nm - tiger4real MU - 12/3/16 10:34:10

govt is one of the players in this deal - the DoD buys - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 10:14:43

True, and the author acknowledges that. (nm) - ummmm MU - 12/3/16 09:47:26

Here's the thing, Mexico has already said they will adapt. - tiger4real MU - 12/3/16 10:01:30

See this is the problem with what Hayek called the "fatal - ummmm MU - 12/3/16 10:09:26

Here's the rub, Trump isn't operating in a free market vacuu - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 10:12:52

Exactly. US govt fiscal policy has been pathetic. - tiger4real MU - 12/3/16 10:19:10

You're not defending the free market here, fyi - ummmm MU - 12/3/16 10:20:46

im for a complete reversal in what govt has been doing the - tiger4real MU - 12/3/16 10:28:40

If you are for a complete reversal, then support a broad - ummmm MU - 12/3/16 10:36:02

We aren't privy to all the details of this negotiation. - tiger4real MU - 12/3/16 10:41:53

The lowering of taxes is a step in the right direction - ummmm MU - 12/3/16 10:47:32

You're not defending it either, ummmm. You're defending - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 10:23:43

In pointing out that the govt should not interfere with - ummmm MU - 12/3/16 10:30:32

the govt is part of the business transaction here, ummmm - - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 11:16:31

That is the problem, of course. - ummmm MU - 12/3/16 11:50:08

You seem to be selecting only a few of those - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 11:57:52

Be that as it may, it doesn't undo underlying economic - ummmm MU - 12/3/16 10:16:41

Who claims they do? Who knows they are wrong or right? - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 10:20:10

Seeing that supporters of this Carrier deal are certain that - ummmm MU - 12/3/16 10:24:46

Trump and Pence aren't acting on Carrier's behalf. they are - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 11:21:11

You are totally missing this one, 90 - ummmm MU - 12/3/16 11:52:44

last point - why do you call "lower prices for A/C units" - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 12:39:48

no, those are unseen also. you also are assuming - 90Tiger MU - 12/3/16 12:07:23

Wonder what kind of year end bonus' will be had - JG A - 12/3/16 09:31:02

Hey libbies - Form for attack !! Your boy being dissed. - GA Tiger MU - 12/3/16 08:35:37

Townhall thinks BO was a bad president? - JayHoaxH8r MU

- 12/3/16 10:11:26

BO stinks. Nm - hokie VT - 12/3/16 10:15:01

He was an EEOC hire, what do you expect? - Coors4bob MU - 12/3/16 10:05:25

And he looks gay when he goes down stairs.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 12/3/16 12:08:47

Damn....the quota system f'd us again!(nm) - Tigrrrr! MU

- 12/3/16 10:41:13

You can't move on, can you?(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 12/3/16 09:43:42

The country will be moving on in 48 days (nm) - Fourth and Long MU - 12/3/16 09:48:27

Some of us have already moved on. - Coors4bob MU - 12/3/16 10:07:12

Apparently Gat hasn't which was my point(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 12/3/16 10:24:13

Look, just giving you a head's up. Thought you'd appreciate - GA Tiger MU - 12/3/16 12:10:07

No matter how you resist, - Toger STL - 12/3/16 09:18:23

Which is precisely why we are now going in new direction. - tiger4real MU - 12/3/16 09:41:42

True, but in the long run - Toger STL - 12/3/16 10:10:09

They stopped at four. A couple more: - hokie VT - 12/3/16 09:10:27

Nice post hokie (nm) - Fourth and Long MU - 12/3/16 09:51:31

Excellent additions. And still not completely covered.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 12/3/16 09:36:50

Nm - Toger STL - 12/3/16 09:15:00

Thank you mr darwin. Any arguments you'd like to make? nm - hokie VT - 12/3/16 09:16:32

Since you asked, - Toger STL - 12/3/16 09:19:40

All of that is utter nonsense , also. nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 12/3/16 09:12:28

Off topic from this thread, but I just wanted you to know - ummmm MU - 12/3/16 09:52:33

You're an excellent debater. Logical, pithy and - hokie VT - 12/3/16 09:15:20

Start with some facts, and maybe we can have a debate nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 12/3/16 09:48:35

White House reps sent to Mike Brown's funeral.... - Tigrrrr! MU

- 12/3/16 10:42:44

No. Why would it be? nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 12/3/16 14:46:35

So you are fine with the White House sending reps to - Tigrrrr! MU

- 12/3/16 16:17:38

You can't debate FACTS. Which is why you couldn't - hokie VT - 12/3/16 10:11:06

You can't provide facts. You just provide assertions based - SparkyStalcup MU - 12/3/16 14:47:57

Many of his overreaches overturned by the USSC. - Coors4bob MU - 12/3/16 10:02:54

Aren't libs fascinating, in their use of "logical" thought - GA Tiger MU - 12/3/16 09:38:31

That's my response to your illogic. Nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 12/3/16 09:49:46

PLEASE give examples. I want to learn.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 12/3/16 12:12:15

He forgot to add one thing. - Tigrrrr! MU

- 12/3/16 09:17:59

That goes without saying. - Toger STL - 12/3/16 09:21:03

Everyone is biased. Everyone has some level of bigoted - Tigrrrr! MU

- 12/3/16 09:28:59

Denial....not just a river in Egypt.(nm) - Tigrrrr! MU

- 12/3/16 09:15:01

48 days until our Racist in Chief is gone (nm) - Fourth and Long MU - 12/3/16 09:08:20

All of that is utter nonsense. nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 12/3/16 09:07:43

ALL TRUE (nm) - Fourth and Long MU - 12/3/16 09:49:29

Number 1 is objectively true. - ummmm MU - 12/3/16 09:43:50

Because.......?(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 12/3/16 09:41:21

all true, all horrible. - RHAYWORTH MU - 12/3/16 08:52:01

They have been blaming police ever since Trayvon Martin - Tigrrrr! MU

- 12/3/16 08:58:03

I blame Bush. - GA Tiger MU - 12/3/16 08:56:48

Did you write that?(nm) - playhard NWMSU - 12/3/16 08:39:27

No. Does it make a difference?(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 12/3/16 08:56:06

Typically people link stuff they copy and past, i'm - playhard NWMSU - 12/3/16 09:04:53

Too lazy. The crux of any article is the accuracy, not - GA Tiger MU - 12/3/16 09:40:58

RE: Hey libbies - Form for attack !! Your boy being dissed. - TIGERROAR MU - 12/3/16 08:38:52

LOL. He would if he could.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 12/3/16 08:55:42

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