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This entire time, I've acknowledged that I don't know the

Posted on: December 3, 2016 at 13:18:58 CT
ummmm MU
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specifics of this deal.

My article posted below addresses the basic misconcept that jobs going to Mexico is a bad thing for the US.

It is not.

I can't believe you are taking the position you're taking.

Edited by ummmm at 13:19:11 on 12/03/16
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There are 400 McDonald's in Indiana with presumably - ummmm MU - 12/3 12:34:32
     Trump I hope would stand against the cause - Butcher of Bakersfield STL - 12/3 13:35:56
     False equivalence - Sal KC - 12/3 13:27:33
          It isn't (nm) - pickle MU - 12/3 15:28:28
          False use of false equivalence. - ummmm MU - 12/3 13:31:26
               You think it's an "unimportant detail" in an ECONOMIC - 90Tiger MU - 12/3 13:36:05
               No, it's a false equivalence - Sal KC - 12/3 13:32:48
                    I don't see the important difference in your version - ummmm MU - 12/3 18:38:35
                    No, the problem is the moving to a different economy (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/3 13:37:17
                         I'm saying in his comparison to McDonalds - Sal KC - 12/3 13:40:12
                              And you're wrong (nm) - pickle MU - 12/3 15:30:00
                                   Your opinion is duly noted. (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/3 16:07:15
                                        It's not opinion (nm) - pickle MU - 12/3 16:53:59
     That would be a dysfunctional and hopeless policy. - GA Tiger MU - 12/3 12:49:35
          Still the newfound socialists RCW RCW RCW RCW RCW - JG MU - 12/3 13:11:00
     Why the need to attempt to equate domestic automation - 90Tiger MU - 12/3 12:42:11
          Jobs - JG MU - 12/3 13:02:17
          Because it is the same concept. - ummmm MU - 12/3 12:44:13
               No it's not (nm) - Sal KC - 12/3 13:27:43
               It's not the same concept at all. The govt was already - 90Tiger MU - 12/3 13:12:55
                    It is the same (nm) - pickle MU - 12/3 15:31:39
                    The tax breaks are a great thing (and a sign that more are - ummmm MU - 12/3 13:14:25
                         I never argued it's "the whole story" anywhere, in any - 90Tiger MU - 12/3 13:15:12
                              Then what is the "leveraging its buying power" thing about? - ummmm MU - 12/3 13:15:56
                                   I explained it many times. I believe (and hope) Trump - 90Tiger MU - 12/3 13:17:48
                                        That is a terrible thing to support. - ummmm MU - 12/3 13:21:02
                                             Ummmm, I'm astonished by your sudden interest in State - 90Tiger MU - 12/3 13:25:38
                                                  I've been posting about this all day - ummmm MU - 12/3 13:27:30
                                                       So what's all the fuss about the unseen costs you keep - 90Tiger MU - 12/3 13:32:12
                                                            It's about the federal government leveraging its buying - ummmm MU - 12/3 13:36:09
                                                                 Why should the US govt not leverage buying power? Should - 90Tiger MU - 12/3 13:38:15
                                                                      Because it is unearned buying power, they don't act with - ummmm MU - 12/3 13:40:49
                                                                           your argument is against govt being a buyer - which is - 90Tiger MU - 12/3 13:44:00
                                                                                By eliminating itself (nm) - ummmm MU - 12/3 18:34:11
               It's not the same, but if McDonalds moved its restaurants - MUTGR MU - 12/3 12:45:45
                    The concepts are the same. - ummmm MU - 12/3 12:47:49
                         no, one is inside of the US economy, the other isn't - 90Tiger MU - 12/3 13:14:47
                              It's the same (nm) - pickle MU - 12/3 15:35:05
                                   govt is force (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/3 16:32:50
                              The concept is saving a domestic job - ummmm MU - 12/3 13:17:03
                                   No, the "unseen" factors of one are all inside one - 90Tiger MU - 12/3 13:18:41
                                        What if the jobs were moving to Alaska? (nm) - ummmm MU - 12/3 13:19:38
                                             If they were moving to Alaska, Pence and the Alaska - 90Tiger MU - 12/3 13:27:17
                                                  Indiana would be losing out on your "unseen" positive - ummmm MU - 12/3 13:29:22
                                                       Yes, and Alaska would be gaining, all inside the US - 90Tiger MU - 12/3 13:33:47
                                                            Well then maybe the solution is to have one world government - ummmm MU - 12/3 13:35:36
                                                                 You're the one talking about unseen factors in other - 90Tiger MU - 12/3 13:40:37
                                                                      That is crazy. - ummmm MU - 12/3 13:42:22
                                                                           Crazy? you changed the fact that PR is now part of the US - 90Tiger MU - 12/3 13:53:21
                                                                                No, I am an individualist - ummmm MU - 12/3 18:36:06
                                                                                Wow - pickle MU - 12/3 15:37:45
                                             or Guam? (nm) - ummmm MU - 12/3 13:20:02
     Machines have always been irrationally feared.(nm) - TigerMatt MU - 12/3 12:38:37
          The jokes write themselves here(nm) - JG MU - 12/3 13:03:05
          Same with Mexicans (nm) - ummmm MU - 12/3 12:44:29
               same with rural whites(nm) - Butcher of Bakersfield STL - 12/3 12:55:31
                    True (nm) - ummmm MU - 12/3 12:56:05
          Anti-robotism is on the rise .(nm) - MUTGR MU - 12/3 12:44:00
     RE: There are 400 McDonald's in Indiana with presumably - MUTGR MU - 12/3 12:36:43
          Do you support that or not? (nm) - ummmm MU - 12/3 12:42:16
               RE: Do you support that or not? (nm) - MUTGR MU - 12/3 12:43:22
                    The concepts are the same. You're saving jobs despite the - ummmm MU - 12/3 12:45:23
                         As to your "negative costs", it's been pointed out - 90Tiger MU - 12/3 13:16:36
                              This entire time, I've acknowledged that I don't know the - ummmm MU - 12/3 13:18:58
                                   So the US should move all of its factories to Mexico? - 90Tiger MU - 12/3 14:28:50
                                        No, each company should make this decision - ummmm MU - 12/3 18:37:03
                         Apples and oranges. nm. - MUTGR MU - 12/3 12:46:16
                              Yeah, I suppose it's like this - ummmm MU - 12/3 12:49:09
                                   It is simply amazing to me what fairy tales these folks - Evenflow MU - 12/3 12:53:25
                                        The Hitler reference. Talk about fairy tales...that's - MUTGR MU - 12/3 12:57:05
                                             In all seriousness, - Evenflow MU - 12/3 12:58:16
                                                  a state governor offers tax incentives for a company to - 90Tiger MU - 12/3 13:19:37
                                                       Oh, but you left out the DOD carrot/bribe/collusion/scam - Evenflow MU - 12/3 13:25:48
                                                            That, to me, is the best part of this. The DOD is a - 90Tiger MU - 12/3 14:20:38
                                                            RE: Oh, but you left out the DOD carrot/bribe/collusion/scam - MUTGR MU - 12/3 13:35:57
                                        Seriously. Do I have to remind these guys why we all hated - ummmm MU - 12/3 12:55:40
                                             RE: Seriously. Do I have to remind these guys why we all hated - MUTGR MU - 12/3 12:58:54
                                                  It hasn't been forgotten - pickle MU - 12/3 15:42:10
                                                  Look I am cautiously optimistic that Trump can, even if at - ummmm MU - 12/3 13:04:23
                                                       I voted for Trump. - Evenflow MU - 12/3 13:09:27
                                                            I didn't vote, but if Trump doesn't open any new - ummmm MU - 12/3 13:13:05
                                                  You just indicated a couple weeks ago that you were finally - Evenflow MU - 12/3 13:00:02
                                                       RE: You just indicated a couple weeks ago that you were finally - MUTGR MU - 12/3 13:07:15
                                                            Sounds like you're back in a fantasy world. (nm) - Evenflow MU - 12/3 13:10:13




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