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So to those griping about the Mizzou loss... - implode MU - 1/19/20 13:48:37
     The saying styles makes fights apply here, miss st was - MUKdC MU - 1/19/20 15:51:56
     We are a very bad team. 14 Wins tops - coolbean MU - 1/19/20 15:15:27
     we suck ass, less words - Jeff85 MU - 1/19/20 15:06:35
     I think it is simply that we perform like any average team - Genco98 MU - 1/19/20 14:15:13
          This team wont be .500 - coolbean MU - 1/19/20 15:16:42
               Won't be exactly .500 or at least .500?(nm) - Mormad MU - 1/19/20 15:20:28
               eventually you might get one of these predictions right - Jeff85 MU - 1/19/20 15:18:15
          RE: I think it is simply that we perform like any average team - oldtgr MU - 1/19/20 14:19:16
     This is a sub .500 team - mu7176grad MU - 1/19/20 14:14:32
     I wouldn't call yesterday game a slow start - BlackSheep MU - 1/19/20 14:03:27
     It's hard to be patient - samclemens MU - 1/19/20 13:57:29
     Martin needs to have his sights set far higher than - Fred G. Sanford USA - 1/19/20 13:08:46
          He sets his sights on players he can't get and then gets - Uncle John MU - 1/19/20 13:11:40
               If I was a high major recruit and on a game day visit - Ozark Apple MU - 1/19/20 13:37:32
                    OMG here we go again, its all the fans fault that we lose & - MU-TULSA MU - 1/19/20 15:13:40
                    That's really at the heart of a lot of this 15,000 for - Genco98 MU - 1/19/20 13:48:58
                         Bama was in tournament 2 yrs ago, but dont let - Sigma MU - 1/19/20 13:57:15
                              We were too(nm) - Ozark Apple MU - 1/19/20 14:02:44
                                   I was correcting his statement, which negates his - Sigma MU - 1/19/20 14:04:49
                                        Not really - I didn't check it but it doesn't take away - Genco98 MU - 1/19/20 14:08:03
                                             # 1 problem is getting playets to execute. nm - Sigma MU - 1/19/20 14:15:01
                                                  I think the discussion was in regard to recruiting - Genco98 MU - 1/19/20 15:14:47
                              What agenda? - Genco98 MU - 1/19/20 14:02:17
                    If I was a fan expecting to see competitive basketball - tigerfans3 MU - 1/19/20 13:40:35
                         RE: If I was a fan expecting to see competitive basketball - Ozark Apple MU - 1/19/20 13:47:01
               Goes high and loses out mid-range, goes mid-range and you'd - raskolnikov MU - 1/19/20 13:29:07
                    Can't win with the coaches we keep hiring. It has nothing - Uncle John MU - 1/19/20 13:31:21
                         What are your expectations? - Sigma MU - 1/19/20 13:36:51
A&M vs MU Tuesday wow that oughta pack em in - Beakerbasher KC - 1/19/20 12:21:34
     nobody cares about this team - Jeff85 MU - 1/19/20 15:10:11
     Mizzou chased away loyal donors/STH - implode MU - 1/19/20 13:54:56
     You don't care though right? - Cosmo MU - 1/19/20 13:23:23
     Columbia peeps and surrounding area peeps fail the Programs - ADelpiero10 MU - 1/19/20 13:04:23
          ridiculous. Fewer people w/in 60 mile radius than any in SEC - sfprman MU - 1/19/20 13:51:32
               Mississippi State is in the middle of nowhere - Fred G. Sanford USA - 1/19/20 14:41:14
          And there are plenty who say, I think rightfully, that - Fred G. Sanford USA - 1/19/20 13:15:32
          It's not really hard to find a Norm type yet our AD's keep - Uncle John MU - 1/19/20 13:14:34
               "find a norm type"...WTF is that supposed to mean? - tigerdb MU - 1/19/20 14:14:12
                    play hard, play smart and have a go to scorer - Jeff85 MU - 1/19/20 15:12:10
                    Kim wasn't a Norm type. He was an Alden type. (nm) - Uncle John MU - 1/19/20 14:40:04
                         He wasn't an Alden type - he was Tim Wolfe's type - doughboy MU - 1/19/20 15:08:56
                         kim was Norm's boy, through & through. - tigerdb MU - 1/19/20 14:44:07
                              Nope, wasn't prepared. That would be an Odom type - Uncle John MU - 1/19/20 14:48:03
               30 years no FFs. You're right it isn't hard. - Sigma MU - 1/19/20 13:42:29
                    Stupid, you must be a newbie. (nm) - Uncle John MU - 1/19/20 13:47:19
                         Lol. I watched loaded teams lose NCAA games that were - Sigma MU - 1/19/20 14:02:12
                              You're an idiot if you think that. (nm) - Uncle John MU - 1/19/20 14:35:47
     Coaching is getting players into position to succeed - BlackSheep MU - 1/19/20 13:25:53
          Coaches have to get players - wu-tangtiger MU - 1/19/20 13:51:19
     Recruit better players(nm) - DevilsAdvocate KC - 1/19/20 13:19:19
          HS recruits are college prospects - BlackSheep MU - 1/19/20 13:35:20
               Most scouts thought Brown would be better as a freshman - wu-tangtiger MU - 1/19/20 13:49:38
                    Lol! You lie habitually. You said Tray would be better - Sigma MU - 1/19/20 14:13:16
                    Asking a question - BlackSheep MU - 1/19/20 13:53:19
                         No - wu-tangtiger MU - 1/19/20 13:57:32
     This bunch just throws the ball at the rim trying for - Uncle John MU - 1/19/20 13:03:16
     I'm not a hog fan but their win at Indiana is their most - MrTruman2U MU - 1/19/20 12:09:21
     I'd say if 9-5 we'd need 2 sec tournament wins. (nm) - Uncle John MU - 1/19/20 12:08:13
     not athletic enough to finish - Jeff85 MU - 1/19/20 15:15:09
     It was bad, really bad. (nm) - oleMIZZOU MU - 1/19/20 11:48:20
          I hope atleast they were contested bunnies(nm) - Ozark Apple MU - 1/19/20 11:43:57
               Some where, but some were just awful(nm) - oleMIZZOU MU - 1/19/20 11:49:02
Martin's problem with offense - jlbomega MU - 1/19/20 11:18:40
     positionless offense aka I don’t know how to - Iam4Mizzou MU - 1/19/20 13:11:11
          Mizzou doesn’t really do much compared to - wu-tangtiger MU - 1/19/20 13:46:38
     shooting 11 of 26 layups or dunks isn’t X’s and O’s(nm) - itznotwillis MU - 1/19/20 12:03:58
     From an X&O standpoint the offense is fine - wu-tangtiger MU - 1/19/20 11:43:18
          Like i said, then he needs to recruit better - jlbomega MU - 1/19/20 14:44:31
     his offenses were offensive at tenn and cal - ADelpiero10 MU - 1/19/20 11:29:33
     RE: Martin's problem with offense - MUKdC MU - 1/19/20 11:22:21
     He's not getting rid of his buddies. Mann and the white - Uncle John MU - 1/19/20 11:21:45
Really miss Tilmon - tiger4real MU - 1/19/20 10:51:42
     Good points...I'll add - BlackSheep MU - 1/19/20 13:51:05
     RE: Really miss Tilmon - MNTIGER MU - 1/19/20 11:13:45
          How does he negatively impact that movement? And - GA Tiger MU - 1/19/20 14:11:32
     Danny Manning he isn't, the rest of team - tigerfans3 MU - 1/19/20 10:59:30
          We night beat Tennessee, but I doubt it. Barnes was to - Uncle John MU - 1/19/20 11:02:08
     RE: Really miss Tilmon - MUKdC MU - 1/19/20 10:53:54
     we have problem with identifying "what" makes a good player - TigerAlum91 MU - 1/19/20 10:50:48
It's time to start talking about Kobe Brown - MUKdC MU - 1/19/20 10:39:17
     The general consensus from scouts was that - wu-tangtiger MU - 1/19/20 11:44:58
     Kobe was a big get for Martin - jlbomega MU - 1/19/20 11:01:10
          RE: Kobe was a big get for Martin - MUKdC MU - 1/19/20 11:24:09
               He needs an alpha dog - BlackSheep MU - 1/19/20 14:09:46
     He needs help from the outside. Juco, grad transfer, - Uncle John MU - 1/19/20 10:41:42
Transfers - Uncle John MU - 1/19/20 09:27:28
     So you want the whole team gone - wu-tangtiger MU - 1/19/20 11:40:54
          I want replacements for Watson and Mitch. (nm) - Uncle John MU - 1/19/20 12:01:21
               Mitch would be fine as a backup - wu-tangtiger MU - 1/19/20 12:04:29
     We cannot afford to fire the man - raskolnikov MU - 1/19/20 10:11:24
          he wont be until 2022 probably....by then perception will be - TigerAlum91 MU - 1/19/20 10:48:47
               RE: he wont be until 2022 probably....by then perception will be - raskolnikov MU - 1/19/20 11:38:06
               And if Ford keeps getting the good St Louis talent - Uncle John MU - 1/19/20 11:04:28
     and he recruits the same quality players...next idea...nm - tigertix MU - 1/19/20 09:58:51
          So we're doomed. I figured as much. Lets go Drinkwitz. (nm) - Uncle John MU - 1/19/20 10:18:31
               The problem is he keeps recruiting developmental players - jlbomega MU - 1/19/20 11:09:50
                    We already were bad last year without him. (nm) - Uncle John MU - 1/19/20 11:13:19
     One thing Tilmon does when he's out there is make - Newcatbirdseat MU - 1/19/20 09:56:28
     RE: Transfers - MUKdC MU - 1/19/20 09:42:11
          Sometimes we have to let the coach grow & improve too - raskolnikov MU - 1/19/20 10:14:04
               How many years to grow and mature? - tigerfans3 MU - 1/19/20 11:05:27
                    Granted - however, The Defense and Toughness he instills - raskolnikov MU - 1/19/20 11:40:47
                    That's what I thought.(nm) - Uncle John MU - 1/19/20 11:12:05
               RE: Sometimes we have to let the coach grow & improve too - MUKdC MU - 1/19/20 10:28:01
                    Kobe is the best on the team for next year. I hope Jackson - Uncle John MU - 1/19/20 10:30:56
               The Porters put Mizzou back on the map. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 1/19/20 10:22:20
                    They weren't on the map - MNTIGER MU - 1/19/20 10:30:40
                         Wrong. Top 10 recruiting class, made the Tournament - Newcatbirdseat MU - 1/19/20 10:35:19
                              RE: Wrong. Top 10 recruiting class, made the Tournament - MUKdC MU - 1/19/20 10:44:17
                                   You're looking at a different map than I am. When a team - MNTIGER MU - 1/19/20 11:00:57
                         Spot on and Tilmon has been a bust and Kobe looks like - Uncle John MU - 1/19/20 10:33:33
                              RE: Spot on and Tilmon has been a bust and Kobe looks like - MUKdC MU - 1/19/20 10:51:16
                                   I hope he comes back for sure. (nm) - Uncle John MU - 1/19/20 11:05:38
     Nikko exhausts his eligibilty - Ace SEC - 1/19/20 09:42:11
     RE: Transfers - oldtgr MU - 1/19/20 09:42:04
     Okongo? Seriously? Watson is a 4-star recruit that has the - mizzou john MU - 1/19/20 11:30:15
          I don't know that he is. I only know he - GA Tiger MU - 1/19/20 14:12:38
     Because Okongo doesn't have the skill to play. - tgr MU - 1/19/20 09:42:49
          Okongo was a waste of a scholarship - jlbomega MU - 1/19/20 10:38:01
               Unbelievable (nm) - Uncle John MU - 1/19/20 10:42:51
                    I just don't get it - Genco98 MU - 1/19/20 10:52:20
     Because our guards are terrible. Dru is the only one that - Uncle John MU - 1/19/20 09:03:02
          Pinson will be good (nm) - TigerA MU - 1/19/20 09:04:13
               This is what happens when you don't recruit well enough - jlbomega MU - 1/19/20 10:56:34
                    Yuri Collins would start at pg on this team. (nm) - Uncle John MU - 1/19/20 12:44:59
               I doubt it. He's a 5-10 minute reserve on a good team. (nm) - Uncle John MU - 1/19/20 09:05:28
     Are the stats ever wrong?(nm) - TigerA MU - 1/19/20 09:02:17
Quit accepting mediocrity! - Gavin Citrus MU - 1/19/20 08:31:21
     We are The University of Low Expectations. Hasn't it - MATO MU - 1/19/20 08:41:19
          Only because we've never had people who truly - Gavin Citrus MU - 1/19/20 08:53:30
               So the last 6 years, but not never. (nm) - Uncle John MU - 1/19/20 09:00:54
     Lol(nm) - TigerA MU - 1/19/20 08:31:58
I missed yesterday’s game - Ace SEC - 1/19/20 07:27:22
     You didn't miss anything, nm - MU-TULSA MU - 1/19/20 08:33:31
     Our perimeter d in the first half was terrible (nm) - TigerA MU - 1/19/20 08:19:20
          So not an improvement - Ace SEC - 1/19/20 08:24:05
               We didn’t play well offensively or defensively. (nm) - TigerA MU - 1/19/20 08:25:06
     There was no 10 minute scoring drought in the 1st half - mizzoumurfkc KC - 1/19/20 08:07:02
          RE: There was no 10 minute scoring drought in the 1st half - Ace SEC - 1/19/20 08:13:00
               Mizzou scored 13 points between FGs... - mizzoumurfkc KC - 1/19/20 08:49:20
                    that is a long time between FGs - Ace SEC - 1/19/20 08:52:54
                         Have you watched any college basketball this year? - mizzoumurfkc KC - 1/19/20 09:24:13
                              I have and it is disheartening - Ace SEC - 1/19/20 09:37:29
                         They were clearly getting fouled a lot. That had something - TigerA MU - 1/19/20 08:59:17
     You have 7300+ posts in less than 7 months - Calca STL - 1/19/20 07:35:40
     Not sure but the fact is he wasn’t good enough to play yet - TigerA MU - 1/19/20 08:15:26
     Our great teams of the past never had much help from StL... - ClassicTiger MU - 1/19/20 07:32:26
          RE: Our great teams of the past never had much help from StL... - st.charlestiger MU - 1/19/20 11:08:01
     well all the hype was KA couldn't recruit and CM would fix - MU-TULSA MU - 1/19/20 08:30:59
          Yep, unfortunately KA's recruits are the main reason for - Uncle John MU - 1/19/20 08:38:15
               You've lost touch with reality. - Sigma MU - 1/19/20 11:02:09
                    Did Barnett,Van Leer,Puryear not start for that team with - Uncle John MU - 1/19/20 13:00:53
               It's almost like Kassius & Jontay never happened...lol(nm) - tigerdb MU - 1/19/20 08:58:49
                    Thanks MPJ (nm) - Uncle John MU - 1/19/20 09:07:25
                         You're welcome, John Vanleer - tigerdb MU - 1/19/20 09:17:06
                              Wasn't without Barnett and Van Leer (nm) - Uncle John MU - 1/19/20 09:19:58
                                   Without KR & Jontay, kim's core would have been 12 win - tigerdb MU - 1/19/20 09:26:39
                                        Again that is not an argument, but without MPJ we get - Uncle John MU - 1/19/20 09:36:53
     LOL...kim's sitting at 7-10 after losing to Lincoln U in - tigerdb MU - 1/19/20 08:02:25
     arkansas basketball is better than missouri basketball - walkaway MU - 1/18/20 23:04:01
          for the only common coach, Mike Anderson, it was easier - zounami MU - 1/19/20 03:14:54
     Didn't we only have 1 scholarship available until - KC rules MU - 1/18/20 23:03:47
     Yeah they might have been better but then transferred as - MUKdC MU - 1/18/20 22:43:56
          true (nm) - zounami MU - 1/18/20 22:44:18
     did he have any classes better than the current one - Jeff85 MU - 1/18/20 22:31:16
          all of them were, IIRC (nm) - zounami MU - 1/18/20 22:35:50
I have said it many times before but these clowns - DevilsAdvocate KC - 1/18/20 22:21:14
     along with the ringleader of the circus - zounami MU - 1/18/20 22:30:44
SEC records. (And the scheduling of dogs.) - MizzouTigerz MU - 1/18/20 21:27:34
     Non Conference SOS in SEC. We are not the worst (by far) - KC rules MU - 1/18/20 23:23:28
          What others in the conference do is irrelevant. - MizzouTigerz MU - 1/19/20 05:56:18
Since King Norm got whacked by the Suntan - Fred G. Sanford USA - 1/18/20 21:19:33
     Over time he would not have been any better at - alwaysright MU - 1/19/20 09:56:33
     Could have easily have kept him if they gave - BurgTiger MU - 1/18/20 23:14:03
     he would have ended mediocre like all his other stops - Jeff85 MU - 1/18/20 22:29:37
     If I could go back in time and couldn't talk Mike Alden into - MUTGR MU - 1/18/20 21:25:48
          Quin sputtered out into a sweaty mess. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 1/18/20 21:32:10
               So did Suitcase(nm) - tiger4real MU - 1/18/20 22:19:56
               RE: Quin sputtered out into a sweaty mess. - MUTGR MU - 1/18/20 21:35:24
                    Alden fvcked both Quin and Mike fact - DevilsAdvocate KC - 1/18/20 22:14:21
                         Q was so far in over his head he just walked around - Jeff85 MU - 1/18/20 22:33:30
                              Elite 8 run was fun.(nm) - tiger4real MU - 1/18/20 22:41:02
                                   RE: Elite 8 run was fun.(nm) - MUTGR MU - 1/18/20 22:43:05
                                        That’s right. Tourney results > Conference - tiger4real MU - 1/18/20 22:45:52
                                             Yep, Norm was a loser when it counted. (nm) - zounami MU - 1/18/20 22:57:41
                                                  I'd take him every day of the week and twice on Sunday - MUTGR MU - 1/18/20 23:28:49
                                             RE: That’s right. Tourney results > Conference - MUTGR MU - 1/18/20 22:55:09
                              Well the bringing in talent part is about 80-90 percent of - MUTGR MU - 1/18/20 22:38:38
     Truth(nm) - WrightWing MU - 1/18/20 21:20:31
31 for 31 is a stupid fluke that won't happen again at MU - Fred G. Sanford USA - 1/18/20 21:15:18
     To shoot so accurately from the line, yet so poorly from - zounami MU - 1/18/20 22:34:41
     Way to go out a limb there, Nostradamus - Hickeytime MU - 1/18/20 22:21:00
Mississippi State beating Georgia by 27 in Starkville - Fred G. Sanford USA - 1/18/20 21:07:16
     It's too bad we didn't hire Howland in 2014... - zounami MU - 1/18/20 22:55:33
     Can't be fired until 2022 as I recall, so he has another yr - MU-TULSA MU - 1/19/20 08:26:14
     RE: Good Lord --- When are People Going to Hold CM Accountable? - MOCO SON MU - 1/18/20 23:50:21
     year zero of a 10 year rebuild - Jeff85 MU - 1/18/20 22:35:14
     nowhere close to as bad as 8-win-Kim's teams (nm) - zounami MU - 1/18/20 21:38:24
          So, now we're using KA as the yardstick by which all... - Deputy Dawg MU - 1/19/20 07:16:03
               no (nm) - zounami MU - 1/19/20 07:26:01
     Kim Anderson was one of the worst D1 coaches ever. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 1/18/20 21:12:35
          What does Kim Anderson have to do with what Martin is doing? - MizzouTigerz MU - 1/18/20 21:36:10
               Read the OP. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 1/18/20 23:01:01
                    I read it before posting. - MizzouTigerz MU - 1/19/20 07:32:31
                         Kim was CM's predecessor. CM inherited Kim's program... - zounami MU - 1/19/20 07:43:29
                              what I'm really asking is, why are people dwelling on the - MizzouTigerz MU - 1/19/20 15:37:40
               read the OP - he argued that CM is worse than KA - zounami MU - 1/18/20 22:48:58
          KA was Brought in to Clean up FH's mess... - WrightWing MU - 1/18/20 21:16:38
               true(nm) - TigerFan92 MU - 1/19/20 05:42:27
               Kim was an abject failure. Worst MU coach of all-time. (nm) - zounami MU - 1/18/20 22:43:51
               quit making excuses for kimbo(nm) - DevilsAdvocate KC - 1/18/20 22:18:09
               KA was absolutely terrible. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 1/18/20 21:29:01
                    Stop living in the past. - MizzouTigerz MU - 1/18/20 21:38:11
                         He was though. No reason to defend him or Martin. (nm) - DevilsAdvocate KC - 1/18/20 22:17:29
                              Not defending. Sick of hearing about him endlessly. - MizzouTigerz MU - 1/19/20 07:30:19
                    RE: KA was absolutely terrible. - WrightWing MU - 1/18/20 21:34:03
                         Thanks Ragnar(nm) - glue MU - 1/18/20 21:35:26
     Yawn......Yawn......Yawn - Sigma MU - 1/18/20 21:11:21
          Thoughtful Responsce --- Appaently CM is Golden to you?(nm) - WrightWing MU - 1/18/20 21:13:53
Cannot recruit worth a crap(nm) - DevilsAdvocate KC - 1/18/20 20:29:48
     his poor recruiting does make it harder to be optimistic (nm) - zounami MU - 1/18/20 21:51:11
          I mean, fans would be a bit more cheerful if his 2020 class - zounami MU - 1/18/20 21:57:36
Remember when Martin was hired - DevilsAdvocate KC - 1/18/20 20:26:23
     borderline unwatchable has that effect on people - Jeff85 MU - 1/18/20 20:40:24
     You're bordering on drama queen. Not good. - Sigma MU - 1/18/20 20:25:15
          8 month old dousher double handle (nm) - TigerFan92 MU - 1/18/20 20:40:23
          Just an obervation - Genco98 MU - 1/18/20 20:37:44
     and still couldn't compete - Jeff85 MU - 1/18/20 20:27:42
     Yeah, it was awesome. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 1/18/20 20:26:42
     OMG we are headed back to KA days, One of our better days - MU-TULSA MU - 1/18/20 20:22:57
     This team has now gotten beat at home by 10 after the - tigertix MU - 1/18/20 20:14:47
     defense was **** poor along with shooting - SuperTone MU - 1/18/20 19:58:53
     RE: we shot 25% from 3.. however we could have won - oldtgr MU - 1/18/20 19:30:31
          yes...and mark got good looks and couldn’t deliver - Bump834 MU - 1/18/20 19:35:15
               RE: yes...and mark got good looks and couldn’t deliver - oldtgr MU - 1/18/20 19:37:18
     Agreed. We didnt play that badly, but Bama buried us with 3 - ImpalaSS KC - 1/18/20 19:24:54
          Actually if we had hit one more of our 3 point shots, and - MNTIGER MU - 1/18/20 20:25:46
          RE: Agreed. We didnt play that badly, but Bama buried us with 3 - Bump834 MU - 1/18/20 19:28:44
               And many of their threes were ignorant and they went in - MizzouTigerz MU - 1/18/20 22:04:17

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