Politics Board

Was there any talk of Kerry admitting Obama created ISIS?(nm) - SuperTone MU - 1/3/17 12:05:48

     you're going to see soetoro lash out worse than Bubba - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 1/3/17 12:15:44

     LMAO. Nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 1/3/17 12:09:53

          There had to be some great melts about it - SuperTone MU - 1/3/17 12:10:43

Trump to Rahm: Get Chicago violence under control or feds - Spanky KU - 1/3/17 12:05:15

     State and local law enforcement isn't the responsibility - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 1/3/17 12:30:18

          you realize trump never said what spanky's OP subject - 90Tiger MU - 1/3/17 12:50:10

     lol at Rahm's office response - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 1/3/17 12:13:10

          Stop and Frisk.... - Spanky KU - 1/3/17 12:15:58

     I hope people don't spend a lot of time on that. There's - GA Tiger MU - 1/3/17 12:11:54

     interesting headline since Trump never said - SuperTone MU - 1/3/17 12:10:08

          i noticed that as well. (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 1/3/17 12:14:25

17 days to go - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/3/17 11:51:12

     it's amazing how few catch on - FootballRefugee MU - 1/3/17 11:55:31

          he's been doing it all along, agreed. folks still jumping i - 90Tiger MU - 1/3/17 12:03:01

               He fully understands how reactively emotional liberals are - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/3/17 12:18:33

                    yes it's as though he tweaks their tail - FootballRefugee MU - 1/3/17 12:36:40

An observation on liberals. Sara, jay hoax and the raskol - hokie VT - 1/3/17 11:50:31

     RE: An observation on liberals. Sara, jay hoax and the raskol - sarasotatiger MU - 1/3/17 18:47:17

     Rasks argument is we need massive government because - TigerMatt STL - 1/3/17 11:56:12

          He reads emerson and tolstoy and doesn't talk about them. He - hokie VT - 1/3/17 12:03:12

               Hes a arrogant hypocritical Proglodyte that thinks hes - Uncle Fester USMC - 1/3/17 12:11:12

                    But think about the starving children.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 1/3/17 12:52:30

     this is nothing new - FootballRefugee MU - 1/3/17 11:53:26

     Those are definitely 3 out of the 4 dumbest liberals on the - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 1/3/17 11:52:58

          Whizzbang. (Only 'cause your bff is a true conservative) - Emoji Man MSU - 1/3/17 13:33:58

          they can still only aspire - FootballRefugee MU - 1/3/17 11:54:20

Kelly Ann Conway sat there on the Today Show and blindly - Doc James USA - 1/3/17 11:44:31

     RE: Kelly Ann Conway sat there on the Today Show and blindly - MOCO SON MU - 1/3/17 12:39:49

     GOP backed down because Trump told them they had - SuperTone MU - 1/3/17 12:02:52

          That's what I read as well (nm) - Sal KC - 1/3/17 12:22:10

     I kind of agree. It is disappointing that when any lib is - hokie VT - 1/3/17 12:00:41

     She is a mouth piece - Rabbit Test MU - 1/3/17 11:53:01

          You shrewd fox. Of COURSE she is. Thats her hob, just - GA Tiger MU - 1/3/17 12:17:43

          Your parrot would be like: - Evenflow MU - 1/3/17 11:57:40

          but she didn't mouth Trump's position accurately(nm) - Doc James USA - 1/3/17 11:53:42

               if that's ever really the case, she will be out of there - FootballRefugee MU - 1/3/17 11:58:28

                    | - Doc James USA - 1/3/17 12:01:36

     Why shouldn't it be dismantled? (nm) - Sal KC - 1/3/17 11:50:19

          RE: Why shouldn't it be dismantled? (nm) - Rabbit Test MU - 1/3/17 12:18:38

     The GOP leadership in the House and Senate opposed - Spanky KU - 1/3/17 11:49:45

          the move was based on committee vote - Doc James USA - 1/3/17 11:51:39

               She is not Trumps' spokesperson - Spanky KU - 1/3/17 12:03:52

     You do know many Dems want it gone too right?(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 1/3/17 11:49:22

     given that her job is to be a mouthpiece, i find that conclu - 90Tiger MU - 1/3/17 11:48:45

     She apparently told Trump to dis Romney. - Evenflow MU - 1/3/17 11:45:18

          I doubt that - FootballRefugee MU - 1/3/17 11:52:22

               I thought he was actually going to do it.(nm) - Evenflow MU - 1/3/17 11:53:58

          She was vocal about that, but don't know if Trump's - Doc James USA - 1/3/17 11:47:04

Today the GOP begins taking back America - Spanky KU - 1/3/17 11:37:06

MU98, you incorrectly say I don't believe in natural rights - pickle MU - 1/3/17 11:14:42

     Most of what you post is actually correct, pickle. Like - Diamond Dave MU - 1/3/17 11:31:57

          I have always said his ideas have some merit but they also - DHighlander KC - 1/3/17 11:42:32

               You just don't pay attention at all - pickle MU - 1/3/17 11:51:55

                    You can choose to call it something different but you still - DHighlander KC - 1/3/17 11:58:52

                         DH, A-C means without ruler, not without rules. your - 90Tiger MU - 1/3/17 12:02:14

                              If you have rules you must have a way to enforce those rules - DHighlander KC - 1/3/17 12:13:54

                                   Good lord (nm) - pickle MU - 1/3/17 13:03:25

                         That is 100% incorrect - pickle MU - 1/3/17 11:59:48

                              What you propose is very similar to HOA's. They are simply - DHighlander KC - 1/3/17 12:06:58

               he isn't proposing an alternative form of - 90Tiger MU - 1/3/17 11:49:42

                    none is an alternative - FootballRefugee MU - 1/3/17 12:01:08

                         Form is the noun. Alternative is modifying the noun (nm) - pickle MU - 1/3/17 13:04:55

                         an alternative, yes. an alternative form of govt, no (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 1/3/17 12:03:52

                              incorrect - FootballRefugee MU - 1/3/17 12:39:53

                                   You're lacking context (nm) - pickle MU - 1/3/17 13:05:55

                                        no, you're talking like the world - FootballRefugee MU - 1/3/17 13:47:33

                                             false equivalency (nm) - pickle MU - 1/3/17 13:54:33

                                   False, FR. If you use your reasoning, private mediation - 90Tiger MU - 1/3/17 12:52:36

                                        wrong again - FootballRefugee MU - 1/3/17 12:55:04

               RE: I have always said his ideas have some merit but they also - TigerMatt STL - 1/3/17 11:46:51

     Is a fetus an individual? - Spanky KU - 1/3/17 11:18:22

     wrong board.(nm) - SuperTone MU - 1/3/17 11:16:29

gun related homicides increase 32% since Florida - MrBlueSky MU - 1/3/17 10:58:00

     Gun related homicides increase 32% in Fla since Obama - hefeweizen MU - 1/3/17 11:13:14

          funny, isn't it? (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 1/3/17 11:14:15

     guessing you didn't read the article? - 90Tiger MU - 1/3/17 11:04:45

          Mr blew guys should work for obama. He can tell us how - hokie VT - 1/3/17 11:53:34

ford cancels mexico plant in favor of usa ... - tmcats KSU - 1/3/17 10:38:41

     Not that I would ever buy a Ford or any - Ferg STL - 1/3/17 11:02:27

          lower costs.(nm) - SuperTone MU - 1/3/17 11:34:53

               How so? UAW MI = $60 hr - Ferg STL - 1/3/17 12:00:54

               It won't be lower costs (nm) - pickle MU - 1/3/17 12:00:45

               does that equate to lower price? or just lower profit? - tigerinhogtown STL - 1/3/17 11:37:17

          it's not at all - Guy on a Bison KC - 1/3/17 11:23:23

               Ford is free to go. They are finding it cheaper - SuperTone MU - 1/3/17 11:35:16

     So much winning (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 1/3/17 10:41:09

          Hooray for higher costs (nm) - pickle MU - 1/3/17 10:53:14

               Ford is staying to keep costs down.... - SuperTone MU - 1/3/17 11:01:40

                    Not only is that an incorrect statement - pickle MU - 1/3/17 11:22:13

                         There are more costs than Labor honey - raskolnikov MU - 1/3/17 14:02:13

                         you'd be wrong again.(nm) - SuperTone MU - 1/3/17 11:22:52

                    For is likely staying for two reasons - meatiger MU - 1/3/17 11:22:05

                         Exactly. There is a reason we don't make everything here - Guy on a Bison KC - 1/3/17 11:33:45

                              Who gets a lower standard of living if we - SuperTone MU - 1/3/17 11:34:32

                                   That is only one part o fhis plan - meatiger MU - 1/3/17 11:45:46

                                        you're conveniently ignoring why the US labor costs are so h - 90Tiger MU - 1/3/17 11:53:29

                    Wait, implication was he was staying b/c of Trump(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 1/3/17 11:06:13

                         who do you think is making it cheaper for Ford - SuperTone MU - 1/3/17 11:13:26

                              You think Ford is rolling the dice? He's not - raskolnikov MU - 1/3/17 11:15:21

                                   he has been open that the lower corporate tax rate - SuperTone MU - 1/3/17 11:15:59

                                        and Trump has nothing to do with that? (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 1/3/17 11:18:04

                                             I think trump has a lot to do with that. Rask - SuperTone MU - 1/3/17 11:22:27

                                                  There are many factors at play - raskolnikov MU - 1/3/17 11:25:04

                                                       lol, what does that mean? (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 1/3/17 11:54:13

                         is it an either/or? (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 1/3/17 11:07:35

                              Yes. - raskolnikov MU - 1/3/17 11:12:44

                                   if (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 1/3/17 11:13:59

                                        In(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 1/3/17 11:27:21

                                             "If in" (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 1/3/17 12:16:24

               how much will the price of ford products rise? (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 1/3/17 10:59:45

          business guy running the country may prove ... - tmcats KSU - 1/3/17 10:44:17

               Short term sure - meatiger MU - 1/3/17 11:18:12

                    Anti globalization is not anti free trade.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 1/3/17 11:21:25

                         Trump wants to rig trade - meatiger MU - 1/3/17 11:26:23

                              sure he is - FootballRefugee MU - 1/3/17 11:39:16

                                   Not completely true - meatiger MU - 1/3/17 11:46:59

                                        and none of them are 'fully open' - FootballRefugee MU - 1/3/17 11:56:42

               Maybe, we will have to see - raskolnikov MU - 1/3/17 10:50:17

                    the government has a budget like everyone else - SuperTone MU - 1/3/17 10:51:50

                         Households and vacations and summer camps have budgets - raskolnikov MU - 1/3/17 10:57:09

                              business is money management. That is what govt is. - SuperTone MU - 1/3/17 10:59:25

                                   Didn't say that ST - raskolnikov MU - 1/3/17 11:05:12

                                        what are the most critical differences in this context, rask - 90Tiger MU - 1/3/17 11:07:01

                                             Rask is right, but for the wrong reasons. Business must be - TigerMatt STL - 1/3/17 11:17:08

                                                  Show your work(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 1/3/17 11:34:00

                                                       19T in debt and climbing and no repurcussions - 90Tiger MU - 1/3/17 14:53:13

                                             RE: what are the most critical differences in this context, rask - raskolnikov MU - 1/3/17 11:11:45

                                                  I will ask again - what are the different required skills an - 90Tiger MU - 1/3/17 11:15:15

                                                  would spending less money than you bring in - SuperTone MU - 1/3/17 11:15:13

                                                       That can be one level of success, but hardly the only one(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 1/3/17 11:28:20

                                                       Government cant be a success. It is evil in nature. More - TigerMatt STL - 1/3/17 11:24:33

                                                       The government though does not generate wealth. It steals - TigerMatt STL - 1/3/17 11:19:22

                                                            talk about non relevant tangents.(nm) - SuperTone MU - 1/3/17 11:23:19

                                   Well, we know SuperTone doesn't have an MBA(nm) - Danny Whizzbang USA - 1/3/17 11:04:57

                              you're right - govt has an unlimited ability to spend becaus - 90Tiger MU - 1/3/17 10:59:19

                                   I buy panties that don't twist mthrfckr - raskolnikov MU - 1/3/17 11:07:18

                                        you should use the warranty on those (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 1/3/17 11:18:37

               Business is all about controlling waste and inefficiency... - Salty Dog MU - 1/3/17 10:50:04

                    That's not a narrow view, thanks for clarifying(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 1/3/17 10:50:52

I quit trying to have discussions with Pickle - tman KC - 1/3/17 10:36:45

     he believes only his created hypotheticals have merit - SuperTone MU - 1/3/17 10:52:41

          Example? (nm) - pickle MU - 1/3/17 11:30:09

          Statism actually is people being unable to wrap their head - TigerMatt STL - 1/3/17 11:10:19

     Probably for the best (nm) - pickle MU - 1/3/17 10:50:19

     He is not interested in discussions - meatiger MU - 1/3/17 10:46:12

          Pretty simple - pickle MU - 1/3/17 10:52:28

     Pickle isn't going to spell everything out in detail or - TigerMatt STL - 1/3/17 10:46:04

          If you were to eliminate the government tomorrow guess what - DHighlander KC - 1/3/17 11:30:49

               Another straw man - pickle MU - 1/3/17 13:11:51

                    Ad hominem. (nm) - JeffB MU - 1/3/17 18:03:12

          I don't think it is even that - meatiger MU - 1/3/17 10:47:32

               Government has little interest in being limited. By its very - TigerMatt STL - 1/3/17 11:07:53

                    Which is why empires rise and fall. We are without a doubt - DHighlander KC - 1/3/17 11:35:18

     i made that decision months ago, ignore trolls(nm) - tmcats KSU - 1/3/17 10:45:25

     I find myself doing the same thing. It is impossible to - DHighlander KC - 1/3/17 10:41:27

          I don't find it impossible (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 1/3/17 10:49:02

          Well put(nm) - tman KC - 1/3/17 10:43:27

     wrong board, straw man & ad hominem. (nm) - JeffB MU - 1/3/17 10:38:58

     You just can't fix stupid (nm) - Salty Dog MU - 1/3/17 10:38:47

          despite switching handles, you surely can't fix yours (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 1/3/17 10:40:53

               Pot...Kettle... - Salty Dog MU - 1/3/17 10:42:14

                    What makes you think i'm stupid, your lack of understand - 90Tiger MU - 1/3/17 11:05:57

                         I've read your posts for years... - Salty Dog MU - 1/3/17 11:20:18

What happens if Trump does not get his economic - meatiger MU - 1/3/17 10:35:15

     What if he is wildly successful? - Salty Dog MU - 1/3/17 10:39:57

          I hope he is successful - meatiger MU - 1/3/17 10:43:42

     I think the pecker may not tackle Obamacare, - Evenflow MU - 1/3/17 10:36:24

A quick shout out to Missouri! - El Zorro MU - 1/3/17 10:34:46

     outstanding(nm) - tmcats KSU - 1/3/17 10:39:25

No reason to even hide it anymore - raskolnikov MU - 1/3/17 10:32:15

     dudd-frank is a load of crap......repeal the first day...... - tigertix MU - 1/3/17 10:34:01

     That works just fine for me.... - Salty Dog MU - 1/3/17 10:33:29

          No, not so much - raskolnikov MU - 1/3/17 10:39:40

               Elections have consequences, Silas (nm) - Salty Dog MU - 1/3/17 10:41:17

                    Of course - raskolnikov MU - 1/3/17 10:52:30

a new island pops up in the Pacific - tigerinhogtown STL - 1/3/17 10:27:26

     A flag - Spanky KU - 1/3/17 10:33:02

     Ask Columbus or Ponce de Leon (nm) - Salty Dog MU - 1/3/17 10:31:56

     First use - pickle MU - 1/3/17 10:30:57

          I can only use so much of the beach at once - tigerinhogtown STL - 1/3/17 10:35:55

               Whatever you use. - pickle MU - 1/3/17 10:44:06

                    so retirees can't be property owners?(nm) - tigerinhogtown STL - 1/3/17 11:12:59

                         Wtf is wrong with you? (nm) - pickle MU - 1/3/17 13:12:42

               That is not productive use of land.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 1/3/17 10:39:11

          Correct answer(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 1/3/17 10:35:43

     the first person to put the land to use, yes. what's your - 90Tiger MU - 1/3/17 10:28:41

Even the ethics challenged Trump astonished by - JG A - 1/3/17 10:03:51

     RE: Even the ethics challenged Trump astonished by - MOCO SON MU - 1/3/17 12:41:57

     so you're using an "ethically challenged" man's opinion - 90Tiger MU - 1/3/17 10:09:14

          Yes. Still awaiting your answer from last night - JG A - 1/3/17 10:13:09

               and you wonder why this board makes fun of your logic - SuperTone MU - 1/3/17 10:31:35

                    I don't wonder why lying dolts sing and dance no - JG A - 1/3/17 11:45:07

               So given that Trump is "ethically challenged", isn't it r - 90Tiger MU - 1/3/17 10:18:36

                    You try way too hard with your dishonest delusions - JG A - 1/3/17 10:22:12

                         so Trump IS a good source for opinion on Ethics? (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 1/3/17 10:22:55

                              Learn to read you foolish lying delusional - JG A - 1/3/17 10:24:56

                                   "even the ethically challenged trump..." I read it. - 90Tiger MU - 1/3/17 10:27:28

                                        Learn to read with understanding - JG A - 1/3/17 11:45:35

Rask "they" who break up rights into negative and positive - TigerMatt STL - 1/3/17 10:01:43

     Posted in wrong place. Sorry. Nm - hokie VT - 1/3/17 10:19:34

     Wow really? Sunstein & Holmes - never heard of them - raskolnikov MU - 1/3/17 10:15:21

          It is the foundation of your ideology to get others - TigerMatt STL - 1/3/17 10:32:08

               RE: It is the foundation of your ideology to get others - raskolnikov MU - 1/3/17 10:37:24

                    Appeal to emotion fallacy. (nm) - TigerMatt STL - 1/3/17 11:23:13

          Not being familiar with Sunstein is nothing to brag - hokie VT - 1/3/17 10:20:54

               I read Emerson, Tolstoy and Inayat Khan - sorry I don't - raskolnikov MU - 1/3/17 10:38:36

                    And yet you opine on all of it. Ignorance is not an - hokie VT - 1/3/17 10:44:17

                         RE: And yet you opine on all of it. Ignorance is not an - raskolnikov MU - 1/3/17 10:53:38

                              You imagination is fascinating. Who suggested you may - hokie VT - 1/3/17 11:35:13

          RE: Wow really? Sunstein & Holmes - never heard of them - pickle MU - 1/3/17 10:20:49

               LMFAO - raskolnikov MU - 1/3/17 10:25:13

GAT, because discussion of rights or the abstract - pickle MU - 1/3/17 09:31:51

     wrong board.(nm) - SuperTone MU - 1/3/17 09:58:06

     I reject your false premise. discussion? Hardly. - RHAYWORTH MU - 1/3/17 09:46:32

          What is the false premise? (nm) - pickle MU - 1/3/17 09:58:42

          The rights to life, liberty, and property - ummmm MU - 1/3/17 09:54:10

               When you think you'll have those without govt , yes. - RHAYWORTH MU - 1/3/17 10:21:36

                    Setting aside the contradictory conclusion that an entity - ummmm MU - 1/3/17 10:32:47

                         oh, that? well that's just a price for having govt tax us an - 90Tiger MU - 1/3/17 10:39:18

                    Natural rights exist regardless of the State - pickle MU - 1/3/17 10:30:29

                    so...when the US govt was created, why did they specifically - 90Tiger MU - 1/3/17 10:24:24

                         As usual, pickletopians remain obtuse. - RHAYWORTH MU - 1/3/17 10:32:14

                              Rights exist without gvmt; they are natural. - pickle MU - 1/3/17 10:55:30

                              rights exist, period, whether a govt or an individual "ensur - 90Tiger MU - 1/3/17 10:37:08

          pickle doesn't believe in natural rights - Butcher of Bakersfield STL - 1/3/17 09:51:09

               then you aren't paying attention. let's start here: - pickle MU - 1/3/17 09:58:04

               lol, wut? (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 1/3/17 09:52:15

     wrong board(nm) - tigerNkc KC - 1/3/17 09:40:23

     Possession of an illegal knife - Spanky KU - 1/3/17 09:35:17

          Why shouldnt anyone have a right to defend themselves?(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 1/3/17 09:37:03

               that's why God gave you hands that can be curled into fists - Spanky KU - 1/3/17 09:37:57

                    Answer his question (nm) - pickle MU - 1/3/17 10:01:04

                         hypocrite. - JeffB MU - 1/3/17 10:44:37

                    those dont work well against someone with a gun, knife, bat - hefeweizen MU - 1/3/17 09:41:03

                         Then carry something legal to defend yourself if you - Spanky KU - 1/3/17 09:45:26

                              $100 says Freddie Gray had no idea on its illegality (nm) - ummmm MU - 1/3/17 09:56:39

                                   Gray was no stranger to jail and the law.... I don't have - Spanky KU - 1/3/17 10:01:47

                                        The attorneys in the criminal case against one of the - ummmm MU - 1/3/17 10:03:57

                                             The headline - Spanky KU - 1/3/17 10:12:33

                                                  Correct. It was not mentioned by the defense. - ummmm MU - 1/3/17 10:13:09

                                                       It was up to the prosecution to assert the arrest was - Spanky KU - 1/3/17 10:16:13

                                                            No, that would be Nero's defense. - ummmm MU - 1/3/17 10:18:52

                                                                 He was not accused of an illegal arrest, dipstick - Spanky KU - 1/3/17 10:26:21

                                                                      I know! That's why the prosecutor doesn't have to prove it. - ummmm MU - 1/3/17 10:29:59

                                                                           Nor does the defense need to raise it. The LEGALITY - Spanky KU - 1/3/17 10:31:38

                                                                                I know! What point do you think you're making here? - ummmm MU - 1/3/17 10:33:41

                                                                                     Because they were never charged with an illegal arrest. - Spanky KU - 1/3/17 10:34:39

                                                                                          What is happening. (nm) - ummmm MU - 1/3/17 10:34:56

                                                                                               You are showing your ignorance of laws and rules of - Spanky KU - 1/3/17 10:38:29

                                                                                                    Seriously, go back and read this subthread, you are so - ummmm MU - 1/3/17 10:42:53

                                                                                                         I am not the one who took the tangent, dipstick. - Spanky KU - 1/3/17 10:49:45

                                                                                                              You absolutely derailed this subthread with this post: - ummmm MU - 1/3/17 10:51:57

                                                                                                                   I am sorry for derailing your stupidity by presenting facts - Spanky KU - 1/3/17 10:55:26

                                                                                                                        The same topic (Freddie Gray), maybe. - ummmm MU - 1/3/17 11:01:27

                                                                                                                             You brought up the trial... - Spanky KU - 1/3/17 11:02:36

                                                                                                    Follow the thread, this about whether Freddie Gray - ummmm MU - 1/3/17 10:41:09

                                                                                                         He knew his knife was illegal. - Spanky KU - 1/3/17 10:49:09

                                                                                                              Link? (nm) - ummmm MU - 1/3/17 10:50:45

                                                                                                                   Lnik to where he didn't know, dumb@ss.... - Spanky KU - 1/3/17 11:00:21

                                             You need to read the story you posted again.... - Spanky KU - 1/3/17 10:05:44

                                                  RE: You need to read the story you posted again.... - ummmm MU - 1/3/17 10:07:10

                                                       Mosby ran a POLITICAL prosecution.. not a fact based - Spanky KU - 1/3/17 10:09:42

                                                            Where is that in the article I posted? - ummmm MU - 1/3/17 10:11:02

                                   To save you time: - ummmm MU - 1/3/17 10:00:10

                    Cool, give me all of your guns then (nm) - ummmm MU - 1/3/17 09:41:00

                         I don't own a gun. Next? - Spanky KU - 1/3/17 09:44:24

                              I'll take your knives and your baseball bats (nm) - ummmm MU - 1/3/17 09:46:19

                                   I don't carry a knife or a baseball bat either. Next? - Spanky KU - 1/3/17 09:52:49

                                        Do you own them? (nm) - pickle MU - 1/3/17 10:02:48

                                        Your cell phone (nm) - ummmm MU - 1/3/17 09:53:25

                                             I don't have the weaponized version of the iPhone. Next? - Spanky KU - 1/3/17 09:54:32

                                                  It's a defense tool. (nm) - ummmm MU - 1/3/17 09:55:16

                                                       It's a phone - Spanky KU - 1/3/17 10:02:27

                                                            And a hammer is a hammer - pickle MU - 1/3/17 10:05:34

                                                                 a switchblade knife is weapon - Spanky KU - 1/3/17 10:11:47

                                                                      We're not talking weapons. We are talking defense tools. - ummmm MU - 1/3/17 10:12:40

                                                                           I am talking about weapons.. you are on some bizarre tangent - Spanky KU - 1/3/17 10:17:22

                                                                                you've done it again, spanky, gone blindly down a hole and - 90Tiger MU - 1/3/17 10:22:25

                                                                                This all goes back hefeweizen's post here: - ummmm MU - 1/3/17 10:19:42

                                                                                     That is YOUR tangent.. not hef's - Spanky KU - 1/3/17 10:30:35

                                                                                          It's the course of this subthread. - ummmm MU - 1/3/17 10:34:40

                                                                                               Nope, the 'tools' part was introduced by you after - Spanky KU - 1/3/17 10:51:10

                                                                                                    "why shouldnt anyone have a right to defend themselves" - ummmm MU - 1/3/17 10:52:33

                                                                                                         that's why God gave you hands that can be curled into fists - Spanky KU - 1/3/17 11:03:40

                                                            "It's a vegetable dicer" (nm) - ummmm MU - 1/3/17 10:04:19

                                                  RE: I don't have the weaponized version of the iPhone. Next? - Spanky KU - 1/3/17 09:54:39

     On the supposition that its quite likely - GA Tiger MU - 1/3/17 09:34:38

          If you don't know, then why the criticism of Mosby? - pickle MU - 1/3/17 09:49:29

          * - pickle MU - 1/3/17 09:47:43

          it will likely lead to a good practical application and exam - 90Tiger MU - 1/3/17 09:36:46

               Freddie Gray was not arrested for making eye contact with a - Spanky KU - 1/3/17 09:43:50

                    Sparky please don't clutter up their nice clean narrative - DHighlander KC - 1/3/17 09:52:31

                         You never get anything right - pickle MU - 1/3/17 09:55:55

                              Coming from you I will take that as a compliment. You are - DHighlander KC - 1/3/17 10:08:45

                                   You are dumb enough to take that as a compliment (nm) - pickle MU - 1/3/17 10:16:47

                                        And you are dumb enough to completely miss the meaning - DHighlander KC - 1/3/17 10:37:07

                         Spanky.. not Sparky - Spanky KU - 1/3/17 09:53:39

The shape of things to come, if - GA Tiger MU - 1/3/17 08:50:32

     Behold the fruits of liberalism (nm) - Fourth and Long MU - 1/3/17 09:01:48

When are all the liberals moving to Canada? - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 1/3/17 08:49:35

     When global warming makes it more comfortable. Nm - hokie VT - 1/3/17 09:34:24

     gonna team'em how to heat their house without burningwood. - justwinbaby KC - 1/3/17 09:16:32

     Canada is a great country. - raskolnikov MU - 1/3/17 09:04:58

          I'll help you pack Raskol (nm) - Fourth and Long MU - 1/3/17 09:39:21

          Who said they were moving? YOU did - TIGERROAR MU - 1/3/17 09:31:07

               Context is everything, isn't it? - raskolnikov MU - 1/3/17 09:53:36

                    You posted "Won't be living under Trump" AFTER the election - TIGERROAR MU - 1/3/17 10:14:34

                         OK - raskolnikov MU - 1/3/17 10:22:19

                         nm - TIGERROAR MU - 1/3/17 10:15:28

               Nice find (nm) - Fourth and Long MU - 1/3/17 09:37:59

                    RE: Nice find (nm) - raskolnikov MU - 1/3/17 09:54:04

     Hoping for a mass migration on January 20th (nm) - Fourth and Long MU - 1/3/17 08:52:32

          Yeah, well we had hope (and change) the last 8 yrs, right? - GA Tiger MU - 1/3/17 08:55:53

     They should be moving to calif. (see above) since - GA Tiger MU - 1/3/17 08:51:25

The talent in this shot just staggers - raskolnikov MU - 1/3/17 08:43:20

     Nah...This is better. - BigTime SEMO - 1/3/17 12:08:53

     I've always wondered- WTH was Dan Akroyd doing there?(nm) - tigerNkc KC - 1/3/17 09:35:12

          He was connected there in the '80s with SNL Ghostbusters - raskolnikov MU - 1/3/17 10:46:26

               "Do you have any Allman Brothers?"(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 1/3/17 10:47:11

     Clusterf##k of singing socialists (nm) - Fourth and Long MU - 1/3/17 09:29:14

     Wrong board (nm) - pickle MU - 1/3/17 08:59:11

     horrible (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 1/3/17 08:47:47

     I played that for my kids just two weeks ago. They were - hefeweizen MU - 1/3/17 08:45:04

          Bob showed up. MJ did better than the Nobel folks ha ha(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 1/3/17 08:53:36

     Jeebus, I hate that song(nm) - Danny Whizzbang USA - 1/3/17 08:44:35

Educating tman - pickle MU - 1/3/17 08:23:54

     Thanks for posting(nm) - tman KC - 1/3/17 10:33:34

     wrong board.(nm) - SuperTone MU - 1/3/17 09:58:34

     I guess that is why anarchism is so broadly adopted - raskolnikov MU - 1/3/17 09:06:17

          oh and i adore your implication that somehow a govt - 90Tiger MU - 1/3/17 09:56:11

               RE: oh and i adore your implication that somehow a govt - raskolnikov MU - 1/3/17 10:23:27

                    it's neither honest nor correct. (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 1/3/17 10:25:04

          link? how many mediatons are consumer to corporate and how - 90Tiger MU - 1/3/17 09:55:18

          Do you have any stats to back up that claim?(nm) - meatiger MU - 1/3/17 09:13:52

               RE: Do you have any stats to back up that claim?(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 1/3/17 09:55:36

                    You made the claim..I did not - meatiger MU - 1/3/17 10:11:51

                         RE: You made the claim..I did not - raskolnikov MU - 1/3/17 10:18:07

                    "I don't bull****" - pickle MU - 1/3/17 10:07:21

          Do you think only corporations use mediation? - pickle MU - 1/3/17 09:11:54

     And where do laws come from? - meatiger MU - 1/3/17 08:56:09

          From different groups people belong to - pickle MU - 1/3/17 09:05:12

               By contract and agreement - meatiger MU - 1/3/17 09:12:56

                    Well, for exanple - pickle MU - 1/3/17 09:26:32

                         property damage disputes - meatiger MU - 1/3/17 09:34:45

                              Why would there need to be a law for that? - pickle MU - 1/3/17 09:44:05

                                   RE: Why would there need to be a law for that? - meatiger MU - 1/3/17 09:51:10

                                        And now the non sequitur breakdown (nm) - pickle MU - 1/3/17 10:08:49

                                             yes, the throwing up of the hands (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 1/3/17 10:19:08

                                        you won't have to sign an agreement to use a road, it wil ju - 90Tiger MU - 1/3/17 09:53:54

                                             Yes he does force me into a system - meatiger MU - 1/3/17 10:10:53

                                                  discussing it with you is forcing you into it? - 90Tiger MU - 1/3/17 10:20:00

                                                       He is not interested in discussion - meatiger MU - 1/3/17 10:32:49

                                                            Don't be stupid (nm) - pickle MU - 1/3/17 11:04:46

                                                  No, meat (nm) - pickle MU - 1/3/17 10:17:40

                                                       Yes Pickle - meatiger MU - 1/3/17 10:33:34

                                                            No, meat - pickle MU - 1/3/17 11:04:24

          why not ask him about teacups and the color - 90Tiger MU - 1/3/17 09:02:11

               He did not bring up teacups and color of grass in his post(nm) - meatiger MU - 1/3/17 09:15:18

     RE: Educating tman - Role Call MU - 1/3/17 08:43:22

          you've just displayed your ignorance (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 1/3/17 08:47:26

               RE: you've just displayed your ignorance (nm) - Role Call MU - 1/3/17 08:51:03

                    I never questioned your rights and this being a private - 90Tiger MU - 1/3/17 09:01:18

                         RE: I never questioned your rights and this being a private - Role Call MU - 1/3/17 09:07:16

                              every part of your OP was predicated on false - 90Tiger MU - 1/3/17 09:21:24

     I'll bite. Where do rights come from? Keeping in mind - GA Tiger MU - 1/3/17 08:30:18

          Nature - pickle MU - 1/3/17 08:48:31

               Definition please. The word means nothing to me in - GA Tiger MU - 1/3/17 08:52:27

                    definition of nature? (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 1/3/17 09:01:36

                    Definition of what? (nm) - pickle MU - 1/3/17 09:00:24

               exactly. (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 1/3/17 08:50:56

                    Oh, maybe you will carry on the conversation. I know - GA Tiger MU - 1/3/17 08:52:53

          that's not all that's left, GA. Assigning rights to a "gran - 90Tiger MU - 1/3/17 08:37:03

               One of the last things "inherent" to - GA Tiger MU - 1/3/17 08:55:00

                    GA, you're so lost on the concept of rights that it makes - 90Tiger MU - 1/3/17 09:20:25

                    Rights are inherent even for that baby - pickle MU - 1/3/17 09:06:38

                         Meaningful reality. To answer your question.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 1/3/17 09:30:30

                              That's not an answer. What was the point of wants and needs? - pickle MU - 1/3/17 09:40:19

                                   That refers to rights. Nothing else.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 1/3/17 13:56:05

     You should have asked Santa for a personality for Christmas. - Tigrrrr! MU - 1/3/17 08:29:04

How to be a pussy is now a college course. Rask and - hefeweizen MU - 1/3/17 08:21:48

     Sad times that we are living in (nm) - Fourth and Long MU - 1/3/17 08:28:00

     lol(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 1/3/17 08:25:48

A secret vote to weaken ethics oversight is done - raskolnikov MU - 1/3/17 08:21:21

     Yet you cheer for tHillary, who worked to cheat Sanders - Spanky KU - 1/3/17 09:15:34

     Who's "they?" The government? - Diamond Dave MU - 1/3/17 08:43:43

          Did not use pronoun "they". Stated clearly GOP House(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 1/3/17 08:56:39

               "at least THEY busted Tiger Woods on it" (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 1/3/17 10:07:24

                    PGA(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 1/3/17 10:11:23

     wait, i'm sorry, how did TW cheat at golf? (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 1/3/17 08:38:02

          RE: wait, i'm sorry, how did TW cheat at golf? (nm) - raskolnikov MU - 1/3/17 08:59:22

               Where do you get your info? - Spanky KU - 1/3/17 09:21:39

     Lol (nm) - pickle MU - 1/3/17 08:25:42

          Coming from the guy that said he wants conservatives to - hefeweizen MU - 1/3/17 08:35:53

     Today's talking points are out folks and no mention of - hefeweizen MU - 1/3/17 08:23:10

          BUST THEIR ASSES - raskolnikov MU - 1/3/17 08:31:36

               more laws - govt overseeing govt? lol, rask. No, how about - 90Tiger MU - 1/3/17 08:38:53

                    You don't know what we are talking about do you 90 - raskolnikov MU - 1/3/17 08:55:19

                         I know exactly what you're talking about and the oversight - 90Tiger MU - 1/3/17 09:22:20

                              RE: I know exactly what you're talking about and the oversight - raskolnikov MU - 1/3/17 10:10:44

               Im sure you sent a strongly worded email to Donna - hefeweizen MU - 1/3/17 08:33:00

                    I sent the message to Donna - raskolnikov MU - 1/3/17 10:12:26

Manipulation of language is a tool of the left to control - TigerMatt STL - 1/3/17 02:22:55

     RE: Manipulation of language is a tool of the left to control - sarasotatiger MU - 3/7/17 18:42:54

     I am a proud Liberal pal. Don't know much about this LEFT - raskolnikov MU - 1/3/17 08:40:02

     I especially love how the left has now equated truth with - GA Tiger MU - 1/3/17 08:11:04

     Excellent - pickle MU - 1/3/17 07:55:04

     Great post (nm) - ummmm MU - 1/3/17 07:48:46

     RE: Manipulation of language is a tool of the left to control - sarasotatiger MU - 1/3/17 06:02:15

          Liberalism, today and in the US at least, is the result of - GA Tiger MU - 1/3/17 08:13:48

               But you're for taxation and welfare (nm) - pickle MU - 1/3/17 08:27:24

          What are you doing here? You're not going to answer me, are - hokie VT - 1/3/17 06:52:29

     The left labels things however they want - 615Tiger STL - 1/3/17 02:34:05

          The left in both parties, yes. Except many Rs dont know, - hefeweizen MU - 1/3/17 08:02:27

          Social contract is an example (nm) - pickle MU - 1/3/17 07:56:25

          All the while decrying the use of labels as unfair. Nm - hokie VT - 1/3/17 06:45:07

Wait....so maybe it wasn't because of the Russians after all - 615Tiger STL - 1/3/17 01:59:30

It isn't the Russians. It is former Clinton Foundation CEO - TigerMatt STL - 1/3/17 00:02:22

     Da! (nm) - Tigrrrr! MU - 1/3/17 00:06:38

What the GOP brings - raskolnikov MU - 1/2/17 22:29:49

     Smart move. It clearly wasn't doing its job.(nm) - SuperTone MU - 1/3/17 07:45:37

     So, Dems suddenly care about ethics? - Cubicle Clown USA - 1/3/17 06:02:30

          Some do yeah(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 1/3/17 09:03:22

               ?????? (nm) - Cubicle Clown USA - 2/10/17 07:15:18

     BTW Democrats want the OCE gone too dumbarse.. - TigerMatt STL - 1/3/17 03:18:53

     OCE did a lot of good when Obamacare was passed without - TigerMatt STL - 1/3/17 03:12:21

     Yep cutting spending already. - GODZILLA MU - 1/2/17 22:39:28

          Well, unless they can investigate a Dem candidate, then - SparkyStalcup MU - 1/2/17 23:28:12

               Maybe Hillary should stop being a criminal.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 1/3/17 03:10:09

               Like a dem trying to rig a primary? - RHAYWORTH MU - 1/2/17 23:38:49

                    What Dem created 8 committees? nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 1/3/17 00:10:26

     Thank you for showing up part time - tman KC - 1/2/17 22:35:17

          No it is not different - raskolnikov MU - 1/2/17 22:37:25

               LOL Well thats just really Freakin stupid - Uncle Fester USMC - 1/2/17 22:41:35

                    RE: LOL Well thats just really Freakin stupid - raskolnikov MU - 1/2/17 22:46:05

                         It was a Republican who started the EPA doofus.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 1/3/17 03:09:11

                              Richard M baby, He was my president, one of the good ones - raskolnikov MU - 1/3/17 09:00:39

                         Compared to you ima damn rocket scientist and a brain - Uncle Fester USMC - 1/2/17 22:50:24

                              You entertain old man. - what did the election prove ? - raskolnikov MU - 1/3/17 09:02:46

                    Just ask the Ute tribe on the Animas River what they - jmlppx MU - 1/2/17 22:43:52

               You asume they do good. Thanks for joining us part time(nm) - tman KC - 1/2/17 22:39:53

Sparky have you found your Kevlar safe space yet? (nm) - Fourth and Long MU - 1/2/17 21:38:55

     I'm not going away. Nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 1/2/17 23:29:24

     Maybe he'll stop hanging out in schools where - Evenflow MU - 1/2/17 22:02:14

     A couple of years ago the German Army let go of all their - Uncle Fester USMC - 1/2/17 21:59:17

     Wonder if it will work to stop trucks?(nm) - DollarSigns MU - 1/2/17 21:59:17

          Oh man i wish they would make RPG's legal LOL - Uncle Fester USMC - 1/2/17 22:01:26

House republicans dismantling Congressional Ethics office - Doc James USA - 1/2/17 21:07:34

     That's Ethics for you - raskolnikov MU - 1/2/17 22:32:07

          You really can't say anything about paying for their - tman KC - 1/2/17 22:38:27

               Yeah, they loved their investigations into Benghazi. The GOP - SparkyStalcup MU - 1/3/17 00:11:31

                    That was a House Ethics committee friend, an entity deeply - raskolnikov MU - 1/3/17 09:10:27

               Yes he can. He is that - GODZILLA MU - 1/2/17 22:41:23

                    I know. Just keep thinking they can at least - tman KC - 1/2/17 22:44:02

                         Pickle's Rask is ignorant about - GODZILLA MU - 1/2/17 22:52:30

     Do you really think they do much? - tman KC - 1/2/17 21:09:09

          Ask Tom Delay - raskolnikov MU - 1/2/17 22:35:40

               Ok(nm) - tman KC - 1/2/17 22:39:05

          You can't think they were terribly effective - Mormad MU - 1/2/17 21:51:03

               Neither were the Benghazi committees, but they had them - SparkyStalcup MU - 1/3/17 00:14:17

                    That was the House Ethics Committee, not the same entity(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 1/3/17 09:11:03

               Why have cops? Why law? (nm) - raskolnikov MU - 1/2/17 22:34:11

                    We have both(nm) - GODZILLA MU - 1/2/17 22:42:05

The only thing that will prevent gun violence is wholesale - hefeweizen MU - 1/2/17 21:05:45

     It isn't the guns - Doc James USA - 1/2/17 21:40:39

          Actually, it is the lead. - ummmm MU - 1/2/17 21:45:57

               We've already elimated its mining in this country. - Tigrrrr! MU - 1/2/17 21:56:08

                    Hopefully they will open back up. (nm) - DollarSigns MU - 1/2/17 22:05:54

               Already alternatives out there. Won't matter(nm) - DollarSigns MU - 1/2/17 21:49:48

          Screw you. - Tigrrrr! MU - 1/2/17 21:44:02

          It aint the guns or the bullets, Its a Spiritual crisis - Uncle Fester USMC - 1/2/17 21:43:38

     Only because guns are so prevalent already. An Australia - SparkyStalcup MU - 1/2/17 21:16:55

          Are you in favor of confiscation? (nm) - hefeweizen MU - 1/2/17 21:17:47

               No, at least not for people that haven't done - SparkyStalcup MU - 1/2/17 21:22:36

                    You realize that you just supported the argument that gun - hefeweizen MU - 1/2/17 21:32:19

                         No, actually I didn't do that. I'm admitting only that - SparkyStalcup MU - 1/2/17 21:35:16

                              Yes you did. How do you limit sales to the law abiding and - hefeweizen MU - 1/2/17 21:38:23

                                   But those guns get stolen or lost and then crimes DO - SparkyStalcup MU - 1/2/17 21:40:41

                                        Victim shaming. She wouldnt have gotten raped if she didnt - TigerMatt STL - 1/3/17 03:23:30

                                        So what is your plan?(nm) - tman KC - 1/2/17 21:45:36

                                        "They shouldnt have them" Who determines who "they" are and - hefeweizen MU - 1/2/17 21:45:20

                    legally allowed (nm) - pickle MU - 1/2/17 21:28:50

                         Part of that State that settles property disputes - tman KC - 1/2/17 21:31:12

                              could you put that in english, please? - pickle MU - 1/2/17 21:42:11

                                   I will endeavor to do better but it will end at the - tman KC - 1/2/17 21:56:11

                                        i didn't stop responding, you did - pickle MU - 1/2/17 22:07:50

                                             What world do you live in? I can't keep up with your - tman KC - 1/2/17 22:14:35

                                                  i don't have utopian views - pickle MU - 1/2/17 22:25:06

                                                       If you don't like Utopian maybe unrealistic idealogical - tman KC - 1/2/17 22:31:50

                                                            what views of mine are unrealistic? - pickle MU - 1/2/17 22:33:09

                                                                 Thank you for posting(nm) - tman KC - 1/2/17 22:36:04

     Serious consequences for crimes committed with firearms. - Tigrrrr! MU - 1/2/17 21:16:23

          "Serious consequences" (nm) - pickle MU - 1/2/17 21:19:09

               Yes (nm) - Tigrrrr! MU - 1/2/17 21:44:29

     That won't prevent gun violence (nm) - pickle MU - 1/2/17 21:15:49

     RE: other options - cybertyger MU - 1/2/17 21:12:56

     They won't admit it if they are, which is beyond me - tman KC - 1/2/17 21:08:01

     No guns should be confiscated, including from "felons" (nm) - ummmm MU - 1/2/17 21:07:34

          How you going to do that. I don't disagree - tman KC - 1/2/17 21:11:13

               How do I accomplish not doing something? - ummmm MU - 1/2/17 21:16:56

               Accomplish what? (nm) - pickle MU - 1/2/17 21:16:15

               Accomplish what? Not doing something is easy(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 1/2/17 21:13:22

                    Misread you saying taking guns from felons. They - tman KC - 1/2/17 21:14:59

                         RE: Misread you saying taking guns from felons. They - pickle MU - 1/2/17 21:17:10

                              Welcome pickle Not reading your link - tman KC - 1/2/17 21:19:08

                                   No, we certainly wouldn't want discussion around here (nm) - pickle MU - 1/2/17 21:21:24

                                        Not if you are just going to link old post - tman KC - 1/2/17 21:25:38

                                             you're making bad assumptions again (nm) - pickle MU - 1/2/17 21:28:10

                                                  Good. I AM CONSISTENT AND THE BOARD generally agrees - tman KC - 1/2/17 21:29:19

                                                       lol, "the board generally agrees with me" - 90Tiger MU - 1/3/17 09:38:24

                                                       you're consistent, alright (nm) - pickle MU - 1/2/17 21:43:14

                                                            All I can hope for(nm) - tman KC - 1/2/17 21:57:27