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rights exist, period, whether a govt or an individual "ensur

Posted on: January 3, 2017 at 10:37:08 CT
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Reality: Govt and individuals infringe upon rights every day and yet they continue to exist.
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GAT, because discussion of rights or the abstract - pickle MU - 1/3 09:31:51
     wrong board.(nm) - SuperTone MU - 1/3 09:58:06
     I reject your false premise. discussion? Hardly. - RHAYWORTH MU - 1/3 09:46:32
          What is the false premise? (nm) - pickle MU - 1/3 09:58:42
          The rights to life, liberty, and property - ummmm MU - 1/3 09:54:10
               When you think you'll have those without govt , yes. - RHAYWORTH MU - 1/3 10:21:36
                    Setting aside the contradictory conclusion that an entity - ummmm MU - 1/3 10:32:47
                         oh, that? well that's just a price for having govt tax us an - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 10:39:18
                    Natural rights exist regardless of the State - pickle MU - 1/3 10:30:29
                    so...when the US govt was created, why did they specifically - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 10:24:24
                         As usual, pickletopians remain obtuse. - RHAYWORTH MU - 1/3 10:32:14
                              Rights exist without gvmt; they are natural. - pickle MU - 1/3 10:55:30
                              rights exist, period, whether a govt or an individual "ensur - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 10:37:08
          pickle doesn't believe in natural rights - Butcher of Bakersfield STL - 1/3 09:51:09
               then you aren't paying attention. let's start here: - pickle MU - 1/3 09:58:04
               lol, wut? (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 09:52:15
     wrong board(nm) - tigerNkc KC - 1/3 09:40:23
     Possession of an illegal knife - Spanky KU - 1/3 09:35:17
          Why shouldnt anyone have a right to defend themselves?(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 1/3 09:37:03
               that's why God gave you hands that can be curled into fists - Spanky KU - 1/3 09:37:57
                    Answer his question (nm) - pickle MU - 1/3 10:01:04
                         hypocrite. - JeffB MU - 1/3 10:44:37
                    those dont work well against someone with a gun, knife, bat - hefeweizen MU - 1/3 09:41:03
                         Then carry something legal to defend yourself if you - Spanky KU - 1/3 09:45:26
                              $100 says Freddie Gray had no idea on its illegality (nm) - ummmm MU - 1/3 09:56:39
                                   Gray was no stranger to jail and the law.... I don't have - Spanky KU - 1/3 10:01:47
                                        The attorneys in the criminal case against one of the - ummmm MU - 1/3 10:03:57
                                             The headline - Spanky KU - 1/3 10:12:33
                                                  Correct. It was not mentioned by the defense. - ummmm MU - 1/3 10:13:09
                                                       It was up to the prosecution to assert the arrest was - Spanky KU - 1/3 10:16:13
                                                            No, that would be Nero's defense. - ummmm MU - 1/3 10:18:52
                                                                 He was not accused of an illegal arrest, dipstick - Spanky KU - 1/3 10:26:21
                                                                      I know! That's why the prosecutor doesn't have to prove it. - ummmm MU - 1/3 10:29:59
                                                                           Nor does the defense need to raise it. The LEGALITY - Spanky KU - 1/3 10:31:38
                                                                                I know! What point do you think you're making here? - ummmm MU - 1/3 10:33:41
                                                                                     Because they were never charged with an illegal arrest. - Spanky KU - 1/3 10:34:39
                                                                                          What is happening. (nm) - ummmm MU - 1/3 10:34:56
                                                                                               You are showing your ignorance of laws and rules of - Spanky KU - 1/3 10:38:29
                                                                                                    Seriously, go back and read this subthread, you are so - ummmm MU - 1/3 10:42:53
                                                                                                         I am not the one who took the tangent, dipstick. - Spanky KU - 1/3 10:49:45
                                                                                                              You absolutely derailed this subthread with this post: - ummmm MU - 1/3 10:51:57
                                                                                                                   I am sorry for derailing your stupidity by presenting facts - Spanky KU - 1/3 10:55:26
                                                                                                                        The same topic (Freddie Gray), maybe. - ummmm MU - 1/3 11:01:27
                                                                                                                             You brought up the trial... - Spanky KU - 1/3 11:02:36
                                                                                                    Follow the thread, this about whether Freddie Gray - ummmm MU - 1/3 10:41:09
                                                                                                         He knew his knife was illegal. - Spanky KU - 1/3 10:49:09
                                                                                                              Link? (nm) - ummmm MU - 1/3 10:50:45
                                                                                                                   Lnik to where he didn't know, dumb@ss.... - Spanky KU - 1/3 11:00:21
                                             You need to read the story you posted again.... - Spanky KU - 1/3 10:05:44
                                                  RE: You need to read the story you posted again.... - ummmm MU - 1/3 10:07:10
                                                       Mosby ran a POLITICAL prosecution.. not a fact based - Spanky KU - 1/3 10:09:42
                                                            Where is that in the article I posted? - ummmm MU - 1/3 10:11:02
                                   To save you time: - ummmm MU - 1/3 10:00:10
                    Cool, give me all of your guns then (nm) - ummmm MU - 1/3 09:41:00
                         I don't own a gun. Next? - Spanky KU - 1/3 09:44:24
                              I'll take your knives and your baseball bats (nm) - ummmm MU - 1/3 09:46:19
                                   I don't carry a knife or a baseball bat either. Next? - Spanky KU - 1/3 09:52:49
                                        Do you own them? (nm) - pickle MU - 1/3 10:02:48
                                        Your cell phone (nm) - ummmm MU - 1/3 09:53:25
                                             I don't have the weaponized version of the iPhone. Next? - Spanky KU - 1/3 09:54:32
                                                  It's a defense tool. (nm) - ummmm MU - 1/3 09:55:16
                                                       It's a phone - Spanky KU - 1/3 10:02:27
                                                            And a hammer is a hammer - pickle MU - 1/3 10:05:34
                                                                 a switchblade knife is weapon - Spanky KU - 1/3 10:11:47
                                                                      We're not talking weapons. We are talking defense tools. - ummmm MU - 1/3 10:12:40
                                                                           I am talking about weapons.. you are on some bizarre tangent - Spanky KU - 1/3 10:17:22
                                                                                you've done it again, spanky, gone blindly down a hole and - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 10:22:25
                                                                                This all goes back hefeweizen's post here: - ummmm MU - 1/3 10:19:42
                                                                                     That is YOUR tangent.. not hef's - Spanky KU - 1/3 10:30:35
                                                                                          It's the course of this subthread. - ummmm MU - 1/3 10:34:40
                                                                                               Nope, the 'tools' part was introduced by you after - Spanky KU - 1/3 10:51:10
                                                                                                    "why shouldnt anyone have a right to defend themselves" - ummmm MU - 1/3 10:52:33
                                                                                                         that's why God gave you hands that can be curled into fists - Spanky KU - 1/3 11:03:40
                                                            "It's a vegetable dicer" (nm) - ummmm MU - 1/3 10:04:19
                                                  RE: I don't have the weaponized version of the iPhone. Next? - Spanky KU - 1/3 09:54:39
     On the supposition that its quite likely - GA Tiger MU - 1/3 09:34:38
          If you don't know, then why the criticism of Mosby? - pickle MU - 1/3 09:49:29
          * - pickle MU - 1/3 09:47:43
          it will likely lead to a good practical application and exam - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 09:36:46
               Freddie Gray was not arrested for making eye contact with a - Spanky KU - 1/3 09:43:50
                    Sparky please don't clutter up their nice clean narrative - DHighlander KC - 1/3 09:52:31
                         You never get anything right - pickle MU - 1/3 09:55:55
                              Coming from you I will take that as a compliment. You are - DHighlander KC - 1/3 10:08:45
                                   You are dumb enough to take that as a compliment (nm) - pickle MU - 1/3 10:16:47
                                        And you are dumb enough to completely miss the meaning - DHighlander KC - 1/3 10:37:07
                         Spanky.. not Sparky - Spanky KU - 1/3 09:53:39




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