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Yes, huge. Probably more than Quin

Posted on: May 11, 2021 at 10:25:28 CT
FIJItiger MU
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We had no incoming class when Haith was hired and after his first season only 1 player returned on the entire roster and he had to do a full rebuild in a single offseason. We wouldn't have even been able to field a team without a huge 2012 class.
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Wanting to Gauge Us Diehard's Expectation's Next Year - WrightWing MU - 5/11 00:59:37
     look at the past if you want to know the future - cal tiger MU - 5/11 17:25:07
     I do not have any expectations for next year - KC rules MU - 5/11 17:16:03
     Hard to say without knowing the schedule. SEC record... - Lerxst MU - 5/11 13:34:06
          9-9 the SEC plays an 18 game schedule - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/11 13:41:55
               Ugh. That would be really disappointing, but it wouldn't... - Lerxst MU - 5/11 14:13:35
                    This coming season has to be all about - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/11 14:17:28
                         As in 3 years from now? - FIJItiger MU - 5/11 14:38:03
                              2023 is after next season - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/11 14:40:36
                                   Ok, that seems like a tolerable timeline - FIJItiger MU - 5/11 14:46:48
                                        Who knows if they can do it - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/11 14:56:17
                                             We're not interested in progress here. We demand top 2-3 in - sprintcar STL - 5/11 14:59:06
                                                  In year five a program should be on solid footing with an - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/12 07:46:24
                                             Me. (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 5/11 14:58:01
                    If MU can go 44-0 in upcoming SEC conf games - FIJItiger MU - 5/11 14:17:13
                         lol you're an a**hole (nm) - phrejd MU - 5/11 14:28:12
                              RE: lol you're an a**hole (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 5/11 14:35:58
                                   love it (nm) - phrejd MU - 5/11 14:37:25
     with this many new faces I don't know how anybody can - alstl MU - 5/11 13:09:21
     Simply put their ceiling is pretty low and their floor is - Missiurifarmboy MU - 5/11 12:44:23
          Totally disagree - Mormad MU - 5/11 12:50:40
               Bull crap. - alwaysright MU - 5/11 14:04:13
               pretty bold statements in a thread asking for predictions - phrejd MU - 5/11 13:17:09
                    I think I'm right on it! - Mormad MU - 5/11 13:18:40
               agreed (nm) - zoomer 99 - 5/11 13:10:36
               I agree with your disagreement. - Nazfan MU - 5/11 12:55:02
                    This group (meaning TigerBoard) seems to hold them - Mormad MU - 5/11 12:59:17
                         I certainly don't know what to expect from the players - FIJItiger MU - 5/11 13:07:13
                              Don't disagree with that - a lot of unknowns - Mormad MU - 5/11 13:14:37
                                   Here you go: - FIJItiger MU - 5/11 13:20:41
                                        I'd take it in a heartbeat - Mormad MU - 5/11 13:23:00
                                             We lost to Doc Sadler's Nebraska team on 1/10/2009 that - FIJItiger MU - 5/11 13:31:46
                                                  There is a difference between making the case that he should - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/11 13:45:30
                                                  Oooof, I remember that game - Mormad MU - 5/11 13:32:45
                                                       Doc was Mike Anderson's kryptonite. - FIJItiger MU - 5/11 13:37:14
                         Same here. I really don't know what to expect, I just like - Nazfan MU - 5/11 13:02:02
                              I'm glad some of you are still optimistic, but I have to - Missiurifarmboy MU - 5/11 13:14:21
                                   You may be spot on...but I personally see no point - Nazfan MU - 5/11 14:46:05
                                        There's some of that for me too - Mormad MU - 5/11 14:51:45
                                   I don't think anyone is down on the players. I am happy - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/11 13:22:35
                                        No, I feel bad for them because a lot of people are - Missiurifarmboy MU - 5/11 13:31:11
                                             I coached baseball and volleyball in the inner city for - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/11 13:49:15
                                                  In MU bb terms, that is called Russell Woods'ing it. - FIJItiger MU - 5/11 13:52:32
                                                       When you go into every game knowing that the competition has - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/11 13:59:53
                                                            RE: When you go into every game knowing that the competition has - HSCoach STL - 5/11 15:27:54
                                                                 I think six wins is about what will see in the SEC. - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/11 22:15:45
                                                            Would you be pleased with a team - Mormad MU - 5/11 14:11:24
                                                                 There are an overwhelming amount of unknowns regarding - FIJItiger MU - 5/11 14:40:10
                                                                 I would actually be pleased with this team if we had a new - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/11 14:14:49
                                   Absolutely not saying that you're wrong - Mormad MU - 5/11 13:18:07
     I am optimistic. I think we will be much more athletic - Nazfan MU - 5/11 11:39:01
     9-17 if things fall just right. - Pikespeaktiger MU - 5/11 11:30:21
     I am cautiously optimistic - Mormad MU - 5/11 11:25:22
     16-16 record - Fred G. Sanford USA - 5/11 11:08:24
          I want to see the schedule first - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/11 11:34:31
          I think 16-16 would be a good season for this team. - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/11 11:24:01
               RE: I think 16-16 would be a good season for this team. - Frank Poncherello MU - 5/11 11:35:40
               In this era of college bb, you have to be absolutely - FIJItiger MU - 5/11 11:26:46
                    RE: In this era of college bb, you have to be absolutely - TONYTIGR MU - 5/11 11:52:57
                         I'm talking about teams in major conferences - FIJItiger MU - 5/11 11:57:38
                              RE: I'm talking about teams in major conferences - TONYTIGR MU - 5/11 12:32:02
                                   Dreadful would be the term I would use to describe them (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 5/11 12:38:43
                                        RE: Dreadful would be the term I would use to describe them (nm) - TONYTIGR MU - 5/11 12:49:41
                                             This era of college bb is characterized by SOS and - FIJItiger MU - 5/11 13:03:02
                                                  RE: This era of college bb is characterized by SOS and - TONYTIGR MU - 5/11 13:09:20
                                                       Fair enough, I stand corrected and appreciate your - FIJItiger MU - 5/11 13:11:13
                                                            RE: Fair enough, I stand corrected and appreciate your - TONYTIGR MU - 5/11 13:21:59
                                                                 We are probably more aligned then than you suspect - FIJItiger MU - 5/11 13:27:14
                                                            That is the problem with having 350 teams in DI. Compared - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/11 13:19:36
                              If you are not a complete disaster, KA, P5 coaches start the - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/11 12:03:16
                                   Mizzou doesn’t play 10 buy games - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/11 12:08:48
                                        In an average year we play 12 nocons. We have been - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/11 12:25:33
                                             Mizzou has played at least 5 P6 teams - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/11 12:29:53
                                                  Here was last season's noncon - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/11 13:00:33
                                                       Interesting the Big East is a stronger conference - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/11 13:08:08
                                                  RE: Mizzou has played at least 5 P6 teams - TONYTIGR MU - 5/11 12:53:30
                                                  Well we didn't last year - FIJItiger MU - 5/11 12:35:11
                                                       Thanks for confirming what I said (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/11 12:40:38
                                                            No problem. I'm not replying in an attempt to - FIJItiger MU - 5/11 12:44:15
                                                                 No I appreciate you bringing those details - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/11 12:47:06
                    I think we will have equal talent to many of our early - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/11 11:38:31
                         If that is the case, surely he wouldn't finish out the - FIJItiger MU - 5/11 11:44:16
                              He is getting paid $3M a year with no expectation of success - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/11 11:47:28
                                   RE: He is getting paid $3M a year with no expectation of success - TONYTIGR MU - 5/11 12:58:53
                                   The expectation is to build to a level of success - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/11 11:53:10
                                        He had a top #4 recruiting class on day one. There is no - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/11 11:59:45
                                             The unfortunate reality is we may never - FIJItiger MU - 5/11 12:12:27
                                                  I suppose it's possible that someone could post more - sprintcar STL - 5/11 12:56:28
                                                  Two months after KIm was fired we had the best recruit in - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/11 12:19:49
                                                       It was fools gold. The challenges inherited by - FIJItiger MU - 5/11 12:28:21
                                                            Baylor recovered from a player murdering another player - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/11 12:33:11
                                                                 As I've said, disagree. What Kim did - FIJItiger MU - 5/11 12:37:23
                                                                      Even if Mizzou never recovers it is stupid to say that Kim - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/11 13:05:54
                                                                           BB-wise, Kim left a much bigger mess than Bliss did (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 5/11 13:09:16
                                                                                That is asinine, even by your standards. - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/11 13:38:59
                                                                                     We were on NCAA probation and had serious APR issues - FIJItiger MU - 5/11 13:40:56
                                                                                          Those sanctions dated back to Haith, they were not Kim's - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/11 13:57:46
                                                                                               No, most of them were Kim's. And most of the - FIJItiger MU - 5/11 14:19:39
                                                                 18 years from the player murdering a player - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/11 12:35:00
                                             This isn’t football. Class recruiting rankings doesn’t - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/11 12:07:04
                                                  Whose fault is it that there is no NBA talent on this roster - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/11 12:16:08
                                                       Maybe there is future NBA talent on the roster - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/11 12:19:57
                                                            Yes but you are delusional. We have a P5 roster next season - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/11 12:27:15
                                                                 Mizzou has a couple in the top 150 - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/11 12:31:57
                                                                      Who is top 100 on this roster? The kids from Springfield - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/11 13:08:55
                                                                           I am expecting both Kobe and Coleman - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/11 13:52:05
                                                                                So you are expecting top 100 play from players who were - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/11 14:09:46
                                                                                     Dru was ranked in the 400’s - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/11 14:21:05
                                                                                          RE: Dru was ranked in the 400’s - TONYTIGR MU - 5/11 16:33:30
          agreed (nm) - zoomer 99 - 5/11 11:18:08
          this. Would I like better? Sure, but I don't see that - SabertoothTiger MU - 5/11 11:15:18
     i see a natural continuation of the rebuild and taking the - phrejd MU - 5/11 09:25:12
          you are hilarious.(nm) - SabertoothTiger MU - 5/11 10:48:26
     20 wins, or time to move on, nm - MU-TULSA MU - 5/11 09:13:32
          In the NCAA of the last 25-30 years, 20 wins is a sign of - alwaysright MU - 5/11 11:38:02
          Fans like this are why we don't attract good coaches - zoomer 99 - 5/11 09:16:32
               there are about 10 fans like this on either side of this - SabertoothTiger MU - 5/11 10:58:18
               20 wins is an incredibly low benchmark, in any normal era - FIJItiger MU - 5/11 09:54:03
                    Mizzou has failed to get to 20 wins in 16 of the last 30 - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/11 10:08:41
                         And we have failed to hire the right coach for the last - alwaysright MU - 5/11 11:39:00
                         3 of those seasons are under Cuonzo. He contributes to - Sigma MU - 5/11 11:02:27
                              And three with Kim. So of those 16 in the last 30 he is - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/11 11:07:13
                                   I didn’t include this season - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/11 11:12:20
                                        We missed out on one game, last season. - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/11 11:20:38
                                             Mizzou played 26 games - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/11 11:28:45
                                                  Mizzou had a worse record against non-tourney teams than - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/11 11:49:06
                                                       Well I didn’t include it because it was not a normal - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/11 11:57:39
                                             2, games against Vandy/A&M were cancelled and not - FIJItiger MU - 5/11 11:24:16
                                                  And how did we fare against the weaker teams in the - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/11 11:50:08
                                                       I wasn't counting them as wins, just elaborating on - FIJItiger MU - 5/11 11:54:47
                                                            It was more in response to Wu-T who has repeatedly claimed - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/11 12:12:13
                         Those are all not good seasons. When they were occurring - FIJItiger MU - 5/11 10:17:25
                         frank haith averaged 25.3 wins per year (nm) - phrejd MU - 5/11 10:13:10
                              wrong. you know all 2013 wins were vacated, mini-Feej (nm) - zoomer 99 - 5/11 10:38:30
                                   [rolls eyes] (nm) - phrejd MU - 5/11 10:40:53
                                        you even respond like him now - zoomer 99 - 5/11 10:42:08
                                             tell me more about these vacated wins - phrejd MU - 5/11 10:50:25
                                   RE: wrong. you know all 2013 wins were vacated, mini-Feej (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 5/11 10:39:26
                                        yes, and you can watch Rosie Ruiz win a Boston Marathon - zoomer 99 - 5/11 10:43:23
                                             I guess I could expect a - FIJItiger MU - 5/11 10:47:03
                                                  another example of a childish, frustrated response (nm) - zoomer 99 - 5/11 10:47:27
                                                       Outside of frustrated I'm not sure how you expect - FIJItiger MU - 5/11 10:49:24
                              mike anderson averaged 22.2 wins per year (nm) - phrejd MU - 5/11 10:13:34
                                   quin snyder averaged 21.25 wins per year (nm) - phrejd MU - 5/11 10:16:10
                                        norm stewart averaged 20 wins per season and half those - phrejd MU - 5/11 10:18:37
                                        And all 3 inherited large rebuilds (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 5/11 10:18:28
                                             Haith inherited a rebuild? (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/11 10:21:40
                                                  Yes, huge. Probably more than Quin - FIJItiger MU - 5/11 10:25:28
                                                       Interesting. - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/11 10:28:02
                                                            certainly nothing like inheriting a roster loaded w/ 9 pros - phrejd MU - 5/11 10:33:05
                                                                 lol (nm) - zoomer 99 - 5/11 10:38:59
                                                            I'm not sure you grasp what a rebuild is, if that is your - FIJItiger MU - 5/11 10:32:27
                                                                 Mizzou hoops was respected at that time - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/11 10:40:53
                                                                      That is a crazily inaccurate position - FIJItiger MU - 5/11 10:44:24
                                                                 wait are you talking about a time before 2014? - phrejd MU - 5/11 10:34:59
                                                                      This was before MU gave up on men's basketball - FIJItiger MU - 5/11 10:36:43
                    hell, frank haith averaged 25+ wins a season - phrejd MU - 5/11 10:07:04
                         He was the worst ever, until our next two coaches - FIJItiger MU - 5/11 10:15:55
                              it's unfortunate that people are so adamant that the last 7 - phrejd MU - 5/11 10:20:45
                                   I don't even know why you would like MU bb in that scenario - FIJItiger MU - 5/11 10:27:05
               LOL twice he has screwed up this team if he doesn't win 20 - TigerFan92 STL - 5/11 09:37:16
               With as many games as they play... - Lakers_Ball UK - 5/11 09:35:16
                    Math is hard - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/11 09:41:54
                         Lol...You're such a tool. - Lakers_Ball UK - 5/11 09:47:00
                              i don't think this is going to work out for you (nm) - phrejd MU - 5/11 09:53:30
                                   I should know better. - Lakers_Ball UK - 5/11 09:55:37
               agreed. anybody who expects us to field a competitive team - phrejd MU - 5/11 09:30:41
     2 (nm) - zoomer 99 - 5/11 09:01:25
     Regardless of picks/%, your scenarios tell the real story - FIJItiger MU - 5/11 08:45:10
          RE: Regardless of picks/%, your scenarios tell the real story - HSCoach STL - 5/11 09:20:10
               Disagree, if you make the tourney you are - FIJItiger MU - 5/11 09:51:56
               Good records are not subjective. 20-8 is good 16-12 is not. - Sigma MU - 5/11 09:30:34
                    RE: Good records are not subjective. 20-8 is good 16-12 is not. - HSCoach STL - 5/11 09:36:12
                         You have low expectations & Cuonzo will meet them! - Sigma MU - 5/11 09:38:32
                              RE: You have low expectations & Cuonzo will meet them! - HSCoach STL - 5/11 09:47:32
                                   50% of the P6 teams made the tournament in '21 (nm) - phrejd MU - 5/11 10:01:52
                    16-12 is basically cuonzo martin's career record (nm) - phrejd MU - 5/11 09:32:50
                         Then a career yr is the most optimistic outlook from this - Sigma MU - 5/11 09:35:42
                              no i think he finally has the talent to showcase his true - phrejd MU - 5/11 10:06:02
     RE: Wanting to Gauge Us Diehard's Expectation's Next Year - TONYTIGR MU - 5/11 08:44:00
     I’m expecting something like 2018-19 Mizzou, around .500 - the808bass MU - 5/11 08:15:35
     RE: Wanting to Gauge Us Diehard's Expectation's Next Year - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 5/11 08:10:38
     BIt of a rebuild year, but most these guys will stick around - raskolnikov MU - 5/11 07:27:38
     Too many complete unknowns for next season - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/11 07:11:37
     About .500 is probably the ceiling. - alwaysright MU - 5/11 06:37:19
     Not feeling great obviously. - tjjefferson MU - 5/11 01:46:56
          It’s transfers or modest freshmen, somebody has to play. - alwaysright MU - 5/11 06:38:59
          RE: Not feeling great obviously. - HSCoach STL - 5/11 06:31:50
               The key is limiting the step back - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/11 07:14:02
                    RE: The key is limiting the step back - HSCoach STL - 5/11 09:23:28




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