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I don't think as highly of him as many of you do, but I

Posted on: February 22, 2019 at 07:37:00 CT
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do like him more than some. The first strike was the condition he left SMS in when he left there. Yes, he won the league, but flamed out in the MVCT. Yes, he left an all conference forward, but after Weems there was 13.2 ppg returning and the only option at PG was a high quality wing coming of a RS injury year that had no business playing PG...kind of a Jimmy McKinney situation except with the added element of major injury rehab.
He left SMS in borderline disaster.

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Optimism test. Who thinks we make a sweet 16 in 5 yrs time? - bornoncampus MU - 2/21 15:25:12
     Nah....not with our luck - Beakerbasher KC - 2/22 20:43:58
     Yes...if we quit losing our best player before the first ... - BandG MU - 2/22 15:05:43
     Yes I believe we will - Da_Haze KC - 2/22 14:58:37
     Who will be the coach?(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 2/22 09:20:07
          Holtmann!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - lqf2b8 MU - 2/22 11:10:44
          RE: Who will be the coach?(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 2/22 09:36:00
               Then based on history the answer is an unequivocal no - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 2/22 09:56:45
                    Did you not read the link? - FIJItiger MU - 2/22 11:26:58
                    If we do play in a sweet sixteen in the next 5 years - DevilsAdvocate KC - 2/22 10:29:32
                    He's made a sweet 16 in the last 5 years. - tgr MU - 2/22 10:02:16
               Razzle Dazzle ball? Ragnar is going to be upset if - tgr MU - 2/22 09:53:46
                    I'd be happy if he could just win an SEC tourney game - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 2/22 11:17:51
                         Took the last bum 3 years to do it - Hickeytime MU - 2/22 12:41:54
                    I assume nothing, I don't believe he watches MU play(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 2/22 11:14:26
     Too many factors to predict an NCAA tourney run. - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 2/22 07:13:44
          Its absurd how long it has been since we were ranked - FIJItiger MU - 2/22 09:00:19
               I'm impressed! - tigerdb MU - 2/22 09:57:12
               RE: Its absurd how long it has been since we were ranked - BuckTurgidson KU - 2/22 09:51:18
                    Dirtiest program in the nation I assume is the answer - FIJItiger MU - 2/22 11:13:04
                         RE: Dirtiest program in the nation I assume is the answer - BuckTurgidson KU - 2/22 11:28:35
                              Agree completely - FIJItiger MU - 2/22 11:37:01
                                   RE: Agree completely - BuckTurgidson KU - 2/22 12:44:29
                    yet with all of that you still seek validation here(nm) - TigerA MU - 2/22 10:12:38
                         RE: yet with all of that you still seek validation here(nm) - BuckTurgidson KU - 2/22 10:16:03
                              Do you have a minute? - bornoncampus MU - 2/22 10:27:42
                                   RE: Do you have a minute? - BuckTurgidson KU - 2/22 10:45:24
                                        RE: Do you have a minute? - MNTIGER MU - 2/22 19:29:06
                              why do you care at all though?(nm) - TigerA MU - 2/22 10:16:59
                                   RE: why do you care at all though?(nm) - BuckTurgidson KU - 2/22 10:43:34
                                        no, you are too dumb(nm) - TigerA MU - 2/22 12:09:59
                                             RE: no, you are too dumb(nm) - BuckTurgidson KU - 2/22 12:53:57
                    You may have rendered FIJI speechless - Jayhawk14 KU - 2/22 10:11:55
                         Turg is an idiot and a troll. - bornoncampus MU - 2/22 10:32:19
                              RE: Turg is an idiot and a troll. - BuckTurgidson KU - 2/22 11:13:15
          You have to look at what our roster should be in - alwaysright MU - 2/22 07:50:31
               Year 3 could be better than year 4 - that's the way CBB is. - tigerdb MU - 2/22 08:23:41
                    I don’t see Tilmon going early - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/22 08:40:34
                         Tilmon's rebound numbers aren't nearly what they COULD be - tigerdb MU - 2/22 08:52:14
                              I haven’t heard that that’s really a coaching strategy - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/22 08:55:14
               I agree. But NCAA runs are difficult to predict. - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 2/22 08:00:47
                    Yeah, plenty of good teams lose early every year - Domino MU - 2/22 08:15:51
                    If he doesn't have a capable squad that year, it also falls - alwaysright MU - 2/22 08:06:03
                         I agree. If everyone is healthy, his 4th year should really - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 2/22 13:00:22
     Not with the current business model....nm - tigertix MU - 2/22 06:38:01
          Of course you would say that - Hickeytime MU - 2/22 07:11:30
          So you don't think this could easily be a tourney team in - StaleyTiger MU - 2/22 07:10:58
               Yes, next year should be much better. - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 2/22 13:05:33
     Next year could be - Tilmon will be a dominant force inside, - tigerdb MU - 2/22 06:28:00
     yes (nm) - zounami MU - 2/22 00:40:29
     I'll say yes. (nm) - ForOldMissouri MU - 2/21 22:42:52
     very likely, yes.(nm) - *M* KC - 2/21 22:09:52
     No frickin' way. Question is if we sniff NCAA's in 5 yrs - coolbean MU - 2/21 21:57:06
          How'd we make it last year?(nm) - Mizzmi27 MU - 2/22 11:17:12
          Kim's got his work cut out, to get you guys in the dii - tigerdb MU - 2/22 05:27:51
     No... - DoltfromSTL MU - 2/21 21:27:23
          Substitute Mizzou for Cuonzo - DevilsAdvocate KC - 2/21 21:31:22
     The weird thing is Cuonzo in 11 years of coaching made the - alstl MU - 2/21 20:36:48
          Yes, it is weird when you take it out of context(nm) - Mizzmi27 MU - 2/22 11:13:31
          Leaving was his choice. He was treated terribly by the UT - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 2/22 07:11:57
          Or not - alwaysright MU - 2/21 21:22:36
               I get amused by the criticism that Cuonzo gets - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/21 22:08:38
                    he's never stayed anywhere long enough to find out - Jeff85 MU - 2/22 00:23:21
                         That's how I feel too. He may or not be a good enough coach - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 2/22 07:15:55
                              I don't think as highly of him as many of you do, but I - alwaysright MU - 2/22 07:37:00
                                   Isn't that a normal ebb and flow for a mid-major? - StaleyTiger MU - 2/22 07:51:15
                                        To a degree, yes. But he did not leave behind something - alwaysright MU - 2/22 08:03:21
                                             Funny how terrible each school did at hiring - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/22 08:07:30
                                                  Oh, I'd say they could have done even worse. - alwaysright MU - 2/22 08:12:22
                    not sure why you put Mediocre Mike in there - Ron Swanson MU - 2/21 22:39:04
                         Mike is a good coach - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/21 22:44:06
                              he is an average coach - Jeff85 MU - 2/22 00:26:11
                                   you got one right - alwaysright MU - 2/22 07:39:37
                              fair enough - Ron Swanson MU - 2/21 22:46:41
                                   The freedom of movement rule changes - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/21 22:53:42
                                        and he hasn't adapted(nm) - Ron Swanson MU - 2/21 22:58:20
                                             he has modified his approach - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/21 23:05:54
                                                  I should have said adapted effectively - Ron Swanson MU - 2/21 23:09:04
                                                       He’s made the tournament 3 of the last 4 seasons - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/21 23:17:18
                                                            He has won 2 NCAA tournament games in 9 years at arky - Ron Swanson MU - 2/21 23:26:33
                    Coach K as well. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 2/21 22:22:02
                         Yea, and obviously there’s no guarantee that Cuonzo - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/21 22:42:31
     make that twice in the next five years! MIZ... - Turn2 MU - 2/21 20:31:30
     Me(nm) - Panthera MU - 2/21 20:24:39
     zero(nm) - DevilsAdvocate KC - 2/21 19:50:36
     One (nm) - TigerinKansas MU - 2/21 19:33:04
     FIVE years? Two.(nm) - MOOZOO MU - 2/21 19:32:20
     Two (nm) - Cosmo MU - 2/21 19:19:00
     We’ll be in the MIAA - mu7176grad MU - 2/21 19:13:59
     2021 is the year! MIZ - Turn2 MU - 2/21 19:06:18
     that doesn't seem all that optimistic - Jeff85 MU - 2/21 18:33:16
     Win 2 games in a tourney it takes 6 victories to win? - Floyd Turbo 99 - 2/21 16:46:23
          Good or bad, making the Sweet Sixteen has more national - alwaysright MU - 2/21 18:28:31
          much higher bar, for sure. But S16 says something about - bornoncampus MU - 2/21 16:48:13
     I believe we will in the next two years. - MOmentum MU - 2/21 16:37:40
     If we aren't close in 2 years, Martin is falling short. - alwaysright MU - 2/21 16:13:37
          What’s your definition of close? (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/21 16:47:55
               In the tourney. Capable of winning 2 games, not just - alwaysright MU - 2/21 18:27:03
                    Yea finish top 4 in the SEC - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/21 20:38:09
                         The more I think about it, if Martin is what almost every - alwaysright MU - 2/22 07:27:42
                              Through his first 2 seasons he’s been a way better - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/22 08:15:27
               Winning two in the tournament in 2 two years is close. Doubt - 68-69ron MU - 2/21 18:12:45
     I mean, any team can go on a run - Domino MU - 2/21 16:04:36
     You play that CM Defense and get good at it - raskolnikov MU - 2/21 15:56:30
     Agree with Wildcat, it's a crapshoot but I expect at least 3 - Mizzmi27 MU - 2/21 15:53:07
     RE: Optimism test. Who thinks we make a sweet 16 in 5 yrs time? - Ragarm MU - 2/21 15:33:13
     Absolutely - kcnorthside KC - 2/21 15:32:31
     RE: Optimism test. Who thinks we make a sweet 16 in 5 yrs time? - oldtgr MU - 2/21 15:30:00
          I think 2020-2021 will be sweet 16 caliber (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 2/21 15:32:43
     Yes.(nm) - StaleyTiger MU - 2/21 15:29:56
     Yes(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 2/21 15:29:08
     Tournament is kind of a crap shoot but I will say yes (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 2/21 15:28:14
     make the tournament you have a chance. - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/21 15:26:57




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