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Noncon SOS - wu-tangtiger MU - 11/29/24 18:35:45

we are still playing kU and Illinois. Relax (nm) - TigerDelt MU - 11/30/24 21:09:21

Agreed I mentioned below that it’s the weakest sos right now - wu-tangtiger MU - 11/30/24 22:28:15

Considering all of the transfers and freshman, it makes - go tigers MU

- 11/30/24 11:36:49

We had lost 20 games n a row. Have to beat someone. Nm - ClassicTiger MU - 11/30/24 08:36:14

The players Gates bought are better this season - will win - alstl MU - 11/30/24 09:12:37

NIL $ has bought Gates enough talent to win 25+ this year... - zounami MU - 11/30/24 09:23:56

This team shouldn’t win 25+ on talent - wu-tangtiger MU - 11/30/24 11:42:19

I might agree only because our talent is young. - alwaysright MU - 11/30/24 12:34:13

Mizzou has won 25 games or more like 9 times in history - MIZtigerZOU MU - 11/30/24 12:39:52

Haith, regarded by many as mediocre, averaged over 25 - zounami MU - 11/30/24 13:02:12

If Haith is your standard, you should pack it in. - alwaysright MU - 11/30/24 15:59:06

Agreed. I'm just pointing out that he averaged over 25 wins. - zounami MU - 11/30/24 16:10:39

Average is pointless. He had 1 25 win season - MIZtigerZOU MU - 11/30/24 16:14:49

Haith won 71 games in 3 years. - MIZtigerZOU MU - 11/30/24 13:06:28

wrong... 76 over 3 years = 25.333 wins per season. - zounami MU - 11/30/24 13:12:55

The team won 76, Haith 71. But still only ONE season over 25 - MIZtigerZOU MU - 11/30/24 13:14:41

It was Haith's team, genius. (nm) - zounami MU - 11/30/24 13:28:21

1 was Andersons team. Still1 season >25.It’s very rare - MIZtigerZOU MU - 11/30/24 13:38:12

He’s doing the obvious setting the bar way too high - MIZtigerZOU MU - 11/30/24 12:08:16

Too high?... Haith averaged more than 25 wins per season. (nm) - zounami MU - 11/30/24 12:37:59

It’s been done like 9 times in mizzous history. Yea too high - MIZtigerZOU MU - 11/30/24 12:41:12

so, you must consider Haith one of Mizzou's greatest coaches - zounami MU - 11/30/24 13:00:55

He did not, and that one season was historic yes nm - MIZtigerZOU MU - 11/30/24 13:03:03

So one of our most successful seasons ever(nm) - tman MU - 11/30/24 11:05:32

Haith's average number of wins (nm) - zounami MU - 11/30/24 12:37:12

It’s actually not. Fuller coached 5 or 6 games in 13-14 - MIZtigerZOU MU - 11/30/24 12:42:31

we still have a 23-game losing streak against high-majors (nm) - zounami MU - 11/30/24 08:49:04

it's an absolute disgrace (nm) - zounami MU - 11/30/24 06:42:07

agree, it's a joke (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 11/30/24 15:46:33

By the end of the season Mizzou will have a good SOS. - wu-tangtiger MU - 11/30/24 09:09:14

our non-con electives are a disgrace (nm) - zounami MU - 11/30/24 09:10:29

If the Committee would penalize it it would stop - Genco98 MU - 11/30/24 07:18:09

Indiana's football non conference was a joke ans looks like - Uncle John KC - 11/30/24 10:44:20

Yeah if the they reward this stuff there will be terrible - Genco98 MU - 11/30/24 11:35:42

Best way to fix it is just expand the tournament in my - MIZtigerZOU MU - 11/30/24 12:12:13

Good post but John was referring to footballl - Genco98 MU - 11/30/24 13:47:43

I understood that. You guys were discussing committees - MIZtigerZOU MU - 11/30/24 14:44:42

How much do they pay those lower tier schools to play here?(nm) - alstl MU - 11/30/24 06:35:35

MU is playing an extended exhibition preseason - FIJItiger MU

- 11/29/24 21:12:09

Everyone knew Gates/MU booked the worst sched (nm) - Ohtiger MU - 11/29/24 19:43:05

It won’t be the worst after next week (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 11/29/24 19:55:12

RE: It won’t be the worst after next week (nm) - Brewer MU - 11/30/24 09:08:12

You the paid shill? (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 11/30/24 09:10:04

I think it's been necessary up to this point - longtimereader MU - 11/29/24 20:43:42

Damn, Wichita State with an 11-0 run - Mormad MU - 11/29/24 16:21:44

Wait till we go to G'Ville.............nm - tigertix MU - 11/29/24 17:21:12

lmao(nm) - TigerA MU - 11/29/24 18:05:03

Grill is walking around and/but is in a neck brace/collar - Macgrantt MU - 11/29/24 12:59:57

Gonna really struggle without him - atMIZZOUnow MU - 11/29/24 20:01:04

Another set of good news, thanks(nm) - oldtgr MU - 11/29/24 14:59:15

Lol yeah just out there running around dunking - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 11/29/24 13:29:12

That's fairly good news (nm) - SatoriTiger JC - 11/29/24 13:04:51

Ol Kimmie English's providence team getting blitzed - mizzoutiger91 MU - 11/28/24 20:05:19

You seem excited by this (nm) - Hickeytime MU

- 11/28/24 21:10:15

Sorry; but I wish he was in Columbia - samclemens MU

- 11/28/24 20:50:00

He couldn’t hold Greg Gard’s cheese curds(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 11/29/24 12:23:34

HARD PASS (nm) - TheWildcat MU

- 11/29/24 11:20:57

If Kim English didn't play here, no one would bring him up - Diamond Dave MU

- 11/29/24 10:37:12

RE: If Kim English didn't play here, no one would bring him up - BruceInLA MU - 11/29/24 13:23:58

We have the dumbest ****ing fan base ever (nm) - TheWildcat MU

- 11/29/24 11:21:27

He publicly expressed a very low opinion of Missouri - no - alstl MU - 11/29/24 08:56:02

True, and it was during a time of severe racial tension... - zounami MU - 11/29/24 09:24:33

He is a dumb **** and always has been. (nm) - TheWildcat MU

- 11/29/24 11:21:51

Link? (nm) - phrejd KC - 11/29/24 10:10:09

You serious clark? **** Kim English (nm) - TheWildcat MU

- 11/29/24 11:22:09

RE: Link? (nm) - Genco98 MU - 11/29/24 11:02:58

Our fanbase's need to blow alumni is truly amazing. - TheWildcat MU

- 11/29/24 11:22:35

"race baiting pussy" is a fair description (nm) - zounami MU - 11/29/24 11:25:12

No.(nm) - Newcatbirdseat MU - 11/29/24 07:08:21

he'd be an improvement over Gates, that's for sure (nm) - zounami MU - 11/29/24 04:15:32

RE: Sorry; but I wish he was in Columbia - Genco98 MU - 11/28/24 22:00:07

Ummm...hell no. Nm - BandG MU - 11/28/24 21:37:57

RE: Sorry; but I wish he was in Columbia - mizzoutiger91 MU - 11/28/24 21:18:21

After seeing the Illini today, tough to think the fighting - Ohtiger MU - 11/28/24 18:45:44

Let's start with 1 conference win. That would be nice.(nm) - Carlos Rossi KC - 11/29/24 08:37:09

RE: After seeing the Illini today, tough to think the fighting - slamduncan KC - 11/29/24 08:12:31

Yeah, our schedule is the reason we won't beat kU - Columbian Gold MU - 11/29/24 09:40:56

kU will beat us by 30-40 points.(nm) - Carlos Rossi KC - 11/29/24 08:37:57

What is fighting Gates a reference to?(nm) - alstl MU - 11/28/24 21:31:51

Things I notice - alwaysright MU - 11/28/24 18:59:19

Illinois has 2 freshman projected as 1st rounders in 2025 - Uncle John KC - 11/28/24 20:19:02

Other teams like Kentucky and Illinois seem to work - Ohtiger MU - 11/28/24 20:13:27

Other teams have real coaches who were hired based on merit. - zounami MU - 11/29/24 04:15:04

Same ole sorry azz baseless claim - BlackSheep MU - 11/29/24 07:30:08

for one, the AD who hired him virtue signalled about - zounami MU - 11/29/24 08:13:25

Are these all DEI hires? - haeffb MU - 11/29/24 09:06:03

Lol, ALL of them did more than Gates at their mid major (nm) - TheWildcat MU

- 11/29/24 15:09:13

ALL? - haeffb MU - 11/29/24 16:34:51

Correct. It's fascinating how woke liberals (like haeffb)... - zounami MU - 11/29/24 15:11:41

No, and you can easily compare the difference... - zounami MU - 11/29/24 09:19:57

Cool. Now do Oats and Gates - haeffb MU - 11/29/24 14:52:59

btw, if you're looking for an example of a white guy who was - zounami MU - 11/29/24 15:10:18

"Cool" as in you have no counterpoint. As for Oats... - zounami MU - 11/29/24 15:05:59

Stronger resume? - haeffb MU - 11/29/24 16:26:53

yes, you even explained why it's stronger (nm) - zounami MU - 11/30/24 06:32:27

No, unless winning a single game - haeffb MU - 11/30/24 12:30:59

let's revisit what I wrote... - zounami MU - 11/30/24 12:43:39

Oats' final year at Buffalo: 32-4, Kenpom #22, 6-seed in the - zounami MU - 11/30/24 12:58:29

Their starting points were way different - wu-tangtiger MU - 11/30/24 22:27:06

One word starts with a r ends with a t(nm) - BlackSheep MU - 11/29/24 17:49:12

The two of you epitomize this meme... - zounami MU - 11/30/24 06:40:28

Screw virtual superficial arguments..where's the beef? - BlackSheep MU - 11/29/24 11:42:25

You think they're going to specifically say a hire is - sprintcar STL - 11/29/24 12:35:47

So there's nothing that says Gates was a DEI hire - BlackSheep MU - 11/29/24 17:45:56

The evidence was laid out... You're in denial. (nm) - zounami MU - 11/30/24 06:35:40

To do so would be admitting to a crime, since DEI is illegal - zounami MU - 11/29/24 13:11:15

So you got nothing to go on except your feelings - BlackSheep MU - 11/29/24 17:47:20

such a vapid response (nm) - zounami MU - 11/30/24 06:36:11

I laid out the evidence... you seem to be in denial. (nm) - zounami MU - 11/29/24 12:20:37

Linus Klieza ring any bells? Nm - BandG MU - 11/28/24 21:38:53

Jesus was here last season (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 11/28/24 21:45:20

I think he meant good European players. Nm - BandG MU - 11/28/24 21:58:32

Danny Allouuuuuuuche(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 11/28/24 23:54:29

The Israeli Assasin!... - Carlos Rossi KC - 11/29/24 08:40:21

European not Middle Eastern.(nm) - TigerMatt MISS - 11/29/24 00:21:36

Tajudeeeeen Soyoyeeeee(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 11/29/24 01:53:50

Any medical updates on Grill? (Nm) - trader_tiger83 MU - 11/28/24 06:51:15

Jesus. He's the only decent player we've got (nm) - samclemens MU

- 11/28/24 20:51:30

RE: Any medical updates on Grill? (Nm) - slippers-on MU - 11/28/24 15:31:22

Great news(nm) - alstl MU - 11/28/24 21:27:06

Appreciate the info (nm) - trader_tiger83 MU - 11/28/24 16:35:41

I so hope he is alright. He is not only a shooter - thytiger MU - 11/28/24 16:17:23

If everyone played as hard as Grill,MU wouldnt have problems - Macgrantt MU - 11/28/24 16:49:43

Thanks for the good news(nm) - oldtgr MU - 11/28/24 16:06:16

Responsive so neurologically a good sign.CT scan pending(nm) - oldtgr MU - 11/28/24 13:48:58

Does he have social media accounts? - implode STL - 11/28/24 11:49:39

Check espn+(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 11/28/24 14:36:35

Was he injured last night? - KC rules MU - 11/28/24 11:16:50

he was on the floor for 15 minutes before - Harvey Specter MU - 11/28/24 11:39:54

RE: he was on the floor for 15 minutes before - KC rules MU - 11/28/24 12:21:28

Hoping it took that long due to an abundance of caution - trader_tiger83 MU - 11/28/24 12:24:50

Hopefully no news is good news 🤞(nm) - oldtgr MU - 11/28/24 08:33:47

Memphis was destroyed by Auburn last night. (nm) - zounami MU - 11/28/24 03:57:10

So did yo mom(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 11/28/24 14:48:00

Posting about this at 4am lol - Columbian Gold MU - 11/28/24 12:15:46

Tigerboard are the only friends Zue has - BlackSheep MU - 11/28/24 14:38:28

Just one of the many calca DHs . Calca also posts at 4 AM - Macgrantt MU - 11/28/24 16:38:50

RE: Posting about this at 4am lol - MIZtigerZOU MU - 11/28/24 13:54:36

Thanks. My carrier pigeon had not yet brought that info - hou4mu MU - 11/28/24 12:04:51

Post of the year (nm) - smoke MU - 11/28/24 20:00:34

This is an underrated post if I am honest - Your Daddy MU - 11/28/24 15:42:44

I still think they are a very good team but that UConn - KC rules MU - 11/28/24 11:16:08

Auburn might be the best team in the country nm - MIZtigerZOU MU - 11/28/24 10:38:46

Hired a proven coach with baggage. We're too scared - Diamond Dave MU

- 11/28/24 11:08:31

memphis was exhausted.(nm) - Harvey Specter MU - 11/28/24 08:53:19

Yeah but we beat St. Charles YMCA(nm) - TigerFan92 STL - 11/28/24 08:26:07

Technically it was western regional St Charles Y - ferret mcmarmot MU - 11/28/24 08:58:19

Destroyed I tell you, 30 pt shellacking - Gavin Citrus MU - 11/28/24 07:25:54

Proves we’ll never win another game(nm) - redngray MU - 11/28/24 07:38:45

We'll other than the two "more" buy games - Gavin Citrus MU - 11/28/24 07:53:23

If that happens we won't be able to get zou off here, or - thytiger MU - 11/28/24 16:23:17

If UConn loses tonight that’s 3 straight losses - The Oracle MU - 11/27/24 23:59:12

Hurley is obviously a bad coach due to these losses - Columbian Gold MU - 11/28/24 09:57:53

But can he go 0-16 in conference? - ferret mcmarmot MU - 11/28/24 13:57:25

Absolutely not.(nm) - Carlos Rossi KC - 11/28/24 08:54:26

crushed by unranked Dayton, for a 3rd straight loss (nm) - zounami MU - 11/28/24 03:56:43

Looking ahead to Cal - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 11/27/24 20:53:47

They shouldn't have rankings until January (nm) - Uncle John KC - 11/27/24 20:15:18

2 things I don't understand... - gstaff MU - 11/27/24 19:54:01

No. 2 is a huge weakness...and drink failure.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 11/28/24 07:30:19

Oh my (nm) - SatoriTiger JC - 11/28/24 08:13:32

Time to hang it up - lol.(nm) - Carlos Rossi KC - 11/28/24 08:55:28

Lol (nm) - Uncle John KC - 11/28/24 08:41:34

We have no regular offense. We do have a set play from - alwaysright MU - 11/27/24 22:01:12

There’s more to their half court offense than that - wu-tangtiger MU - 11/28/24 08:43:55

He needs to figure that out or it will be his undoing (nm) - DevilsAdvocate KC - 11/28/24 07:47:56

Same reason Vanover defended the perimeter last season - alstl MU - 11/27/24 20:41:05

RE: 2 things I don't understand... - Ohtiger MU - 11/27/24 19:57:52

RE: 2 things I don't understand... - BruceInLA MU - 11/27/24 20:05:03

You took offense to that but not "uncoordinated" or "slow"? - phrejd KC - 11/27/24 22:09:07

Bruce doesn’t see color, except for when it helps him - alwaysright MU - 11/28/24 06:28:41

What do you mean “you people “ (nm) - Hickeytime MU

- 11/27/24 23:56:20

RE: What do you mean “you people “ (nm) - Genco98 MU - 11/28/24 06:18:29

It was a description of him, and I know you want to be so - Ohtiger MU - 11/27/24 20:08:52

I figured you forgot his name, I did. (nm) - Uncle John KC - 11/27/24 20:38:25

Poor Man’s Bill Walton(nm) - DevilsAdvocate KC - 11/27/24 20:14:50

Poor? More like broke busted disgusted (nm) - TigerFan92 STL - 11/27/24 22:06:51

Dumpster fire version(nm) - DevilsAdvocate KC - 11/28/24 07:49:04

Believe me, I've tried to forget last year. - gstaff MU - 11/27/24 20:01:49

He answered your question though (nm) - Uncle John KC - 11/27/24 20:02:54

Starters scored 17 tonight - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 11/27/24 19:47:14

Starting don't mean much on this team. He will play - thytiger MU - 11/28/24 16:38:36

Maybe they are starting the wrong 5 - Tiger Tim MU - 11/28/24 07:05:48

Complete no show from the big 4 - wu-tangtiger MU - 11/27/24 19:50:38

"Big 4,".What scale are you using?(nm) - Sigma MU - 11/27/24 20:07:01

That's what I was wondering (nm) - Uncle John KC - 11/27/24 20:07:30

Assume Grill, Bates, Mitchell, Robinson(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 11/27/24 20:15:14

Correct. All 4 were averaging at least - wu-tangtiger MU - 11/27/24 21:02:03

Lot of bad habits that need to be broken or better teams wil - Sigma MU - 11/27/24 19:37:59

what i saw - o'lineydisciple MU - 11/28/24 10:00:23

True enough bad night. Hopefully it was just one - thytiger MU - 11/28/24 16:42:01

RE: Lot of bad habits that need to be broken or better teams wil - Columbian Gold MU - 11/27/24 19:46:41

Lol . There's a reason Duke showed Mitchell the door. His - Sigma MU - 11/27/24 20:04:21

Did you just lol at yourself? (nm) - Columbian Gold MU - 11/27/24 20:49:52

Inferior opponents are good to build confidence - Eggs MU - 11/27/24 19:41:17

Yes and then Grill got injured. nm - thytiger MU - 11/28/24 16:44:11

RE: Inferior opponents are good to build confidence - MIZtigerZOU MU - 11/27/24 20:25:58

Last year's team peaked in November " - Sigma MU - 11/27/24 20:05:52

December 3 - wu-tangtiger MU - 11/27/24 21:05:19

That wasn't a power conference road game as mentioned(nm) - Sigma MU - 11/27/24 21:20:43

Peaked (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 11/27/24 21:32:14

On the bright side i think this would be a close game - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 11/27/24 19:43:07

Pierce is becoming a great FT shooter(nm) - oldtgr MU - 11/27/24 19:37:49

Highest arking shot that I've seen for awhile. nm - thytiger MU - 11/28/24 16:31:35

He can be a player. Hope he plays more. (nm) - Uncle John KC - 11/27/24 20:04:50

Those were no-doubters - BlackSheep MU - 11/27/24 19:40:14

Mike is testy this evening. Must hate his extended fam - ferret mcmarmot MU - 11/27/24 19:29:52

I was surprised when he was basically saying Mike Woodson is - CoolBreeze22 MU - 11/27/24 19:35:50

Our bigs need serious coaching on ball security around the - Eggs MU - 11/27/24 19:29:34

RE: Our bigs need serious coaching on ball security around the - BH O'bonga MU - 11/28/24 07:31:17

No need. The team just needs to chuck up way more 3's - Ohtiger MU - 11/27/24 19:32:36

Looks like a pickup game at Brewer(nm) - Sigma MU - 11/27/24 19:27:33

Cut the turnovers in half and this is a 35-40 point game - Eggs MU - 11/27/24 19:24:50

We lucky they have missed almost all their 3’s(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 11/27/24 19:28:54

Ifs buts candy nuts - ferret mcmarmot MU - 11/27/24 19:25:26

I thought Wesley Stokes used up eligibility - ferret mcmarmot MU - 11/27/24 19:24:19

Pierce needs to play, develop him Gates, potential is there - Macgrantt MU - 11/27/24 19:23:34

Pierce refuses to rebound on defensive end.(nm) - Sigma MU - 11/27/24 19:25:02

Right as he gets one. - alwaysright MU - 11/27/24 19:29:25

He might get 3 vs Lindewood but better competition - Sigma MU - 11/27/24 19:31:36

Boatang 3 minutes to start and done(nm) - TigerFan92 STL - 11/27/24 19:21:11

Just do not understand in what universe he's a starter, - Ohtiger MU - 11/27/24 19:25:18

or the coach told his highest ranked frosh recruit,hed start - Macgrantt MU - 11/27/24 19:47:13

Well probably a huge part of it, and probably a launching - Ohtiger MU - 11/27/24 19:55:55

He’ll be well rested for coach Cal next season - ferret mcmarmot MU - 11/27/24 19:23:03

Exactly - Chris23 MU - 11/27/24 19:24:06

Man Perkins is slow - ferret mcmarmot MU - 11/27/24 19:19:56

Mike Kelly gives false information every time down the - alwaysright MU - 11/27/24 19:21:15

THIS (nm) - TigerFan92 STL - 11/27/24 19:35:37

Terrible ****ing D - ferret mcmarmot MU - 11/27/24 19:18:35

Just too many careless turnovers(nm) - BlackSheep MU - 11/27/24 19:17:27

Get pierce out. Scoring too much - ferret mcmarmot MU - 11/27/24 19:14:23

That’s how he needs to play. Using his size to attack - MIZtigerZOU MU - 11/27/24 19:19:59

Mitchell is butterfingers tonight - ferret mcmarmot MU - 11/27/24 19:12:57

He's thinking from marque games at Duke to Linden wood - Sigma MU - 11/27/24 19:17:29

Bigs KEEP putting the ball on the floor - BlackSheep MU - 11/27/24 19:13:41

Shaw almost died there(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 11/27/24 19:10:20

Had like 3 near deaths tonight - ferret mcmarmot MU - 11/27/24 19:11:13

Grey doesn’t provide much interior defense - MIZtigerZOU MU - 11/27/24 19:03:15

He's too slow - BlackSheep MU - 11/27/24 19:06:30

most of the time he wanders out to the perimeter - Chris23 MU - 11/27/24 19:08:02

Who doesn’t ? - ferret mcmarmot MU - 11/27/24 19:10:33

I agree. He’s fast enough to play inside. He’s just rarely - MIZtigerZOU MU - 11/27/24 19:08:40

He lacks lateral quickness. Straight line player(nm) - Sigma MU - 11/27/24 19:07:49

When has he shown any quickness? - BlackSheep MU - 11/27/24 19:12:21

I think he’s saying he’s fast, but not quick - MIZtigerZOU MU - 11/27/24 19:12:55

Well that's great...if he only had to run the 40 - BlackSheep MU - 11/27/24 19:16:03

It’s a useful basketball skill. One he has. He’s not a great - MIZtigerZOU MU - 11/27/24 19:21:26

Agree. He will help against big physical guys(nm) - Sigma MU - 11/27/24 19:22:51

Will only protect plays in front of him. If he has to - Sigma MU - 11/27/24 19:20:16

This game is an example of why you are better off not - Eggs MU - 11/27/24 19:01:07

RE: Those schools are much better than Lindenwood - missinglink MU - 11/27/24 21:13:26

Equivalent of a scrimmage at best.(nm) - Sigma MU - 11/27/24 19:06:46

But I am specifically targeting the in-state ones - Eggs MU - 11/27/24 19:08:49

Mizzou should be able to take their best shot & still win. - Sigma MU - 11/27/24 19:14:17

He’s exactly right - Genco98 MU - 11/27/24 19:33:37

RE: This game is an example of why you are better off not - GreatScott MU - 11/27/24 19:05:31

RE: This game is an example of why you are better off not - Ohtiger MU - 11/27/24 19:15:10

It serves nothing but to artificially pad the W-L record. - Ohtiger MU - 11/27/24 19:03:15

RE: It serves nothing but to artificially pad the W-L record. - GreatScott MU - 11/27/24 19:07:37

Because you might lose ? - ferret mcmarmot MU - 11/27/24 19:02:22

RE: Because you might lose ? - Genco98 MU - 11/27/24 19:34:00

I like when crews forgets he’s supposed to stand in the - ferret mcmarmot MU - 11/27/24 19:00:53

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