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Posted on: October 22, 2019 at 13:49:40 CT
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Scott's argument was essentially equitable estoppel. That is, fairness prevents a slave-owner from transporting/relocating to a free state, while clinging to the laws of the jurisdiction that he emanated from to maintain his property rights.

Slave owners viewed that as an affront. Because a slave could essentially escape, transport himself or herself there, and claim sanctuary.

I'd argue that there's a factual distinction where the slave-owner transports the property (rather than escape/theft/or other means). And, it could turn on whether the slave owner intended to relocate and become a citizen of the new jurisdiction. If so, he's voluntarily submitted himself to that new state's rules, and should forfeit his ability to disavow the rules that he didn't happen to like.

For the reasons that Blue mentioned, I also don't agree with their conclusion that a negro could not be a citizen if once enslaved or the descendant of a slave. It would certainly be within the purview of a slave owner to free their slaves, so that doesn't seem to wash.

Edited by Mormad at 13:50:35 on 10/22/19
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     Here's something people don't know. In 1781 - GA Tiger MU - 10/22 14:48:45
     SCOTUS for the first 70 years was controlled - MrBlueSky MU - 10/22 13:17:27
          So you're arguing fairness and racism instead of the - hokie VT - 10/22 13:28:49
               No, I'm arguing the facts on the ground - MrBlueSky MU - 10/22 13:29:54
                    Voted in elections, really? So your argument is that - hokie VT - 10/22 13:33:43
                         My argument would be that if anyone was guilty of activism - Mormad MU - 10/22 13:38:29
                              I agree that his writings on the missouri compromise were - hokie VT - 10/22 13:42:52
                                   Probably so - Mormad MU - 10/22 13:49:40
                                        Excellent point re moving to a free state, if that had been - hokie VT - 10/22 13:59:16
                                             That was Scott's argument.. - MrBlueSky MU - 10/22 14:56:30
                                             That was essentially Scott's argument - Mormad MU - 10/22 14:02:42
                              Correct, but Taney took it a step further and he was trying - MrBlueSky MU - 10/22 13:42:19
                                   Which has nothing to do with the merits of the case. nm - hokie VT - 10/22 13:43:43
                                        He made it part of the case, so of course it does - MrBlueSky MU - 10/22 13:45:27
                                             As I said, Taney was being the "activist" - Mormad MU - 10/22 13:52:38
                         Lol, he was a bigot. Roger Taney tried to say that - MrBlueSky MU - 10/22 13:36:39
                              Never said he wasn't a bigot. I only said that that is all - hokie VT - 10/22 13:40:48
                                   You've ignored every thing else I said. (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 10/22 13:41:17
                                        The make-up of the court was pro-slave State - Mormad MU - 10/22 13:43:52
                                             Ideology is important say the libs re SCOTUS. They - hokie VT - 10/22 13:52:57
                                                  That's because you're misinterpreting what I said - Mormad MU - 10/22 13:58:01
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                                                            I would think, sitting on the court would be difficult - Mormad MU - 10/22 14:07:45
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