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I'm not alone in valuing Marshall. *
Posted on: February 18, 2017 at 21:18:18 CT
tjwheeler
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My top 16 list of HC candidates (updated)...
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zounami
MU
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2/18 20:34:29
Mark Gottfiried should be on no one's list
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Hoosier Daddy1
IU
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2/19 10:30:47
Not bad but Keatts needs to be a lot higher
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alwaysright
MU
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2/19 09:20:00
RE: My top 16 list of HC candidates (updated)...
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hondo
MU
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2/19 09:10:13
Gregg Marshall makes $3.3 million a year
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ERB
KC
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2/18 21:49:41
There is Talk of Wichita changing comferences, AAC
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MoGold
MU
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2/18 23:20:12
He's worth as much as $6 million per year. (nm)
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zounami
MU
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2/18 22:02:40
RE: He's worth as much as $6 million per year. (nm)
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hondo
MU
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2/19 09:13:11
I say $74 GOLL DURN MILLION!!!!!!!!!1 A MONTH!!!!1
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Mothball
MU
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2/18 22:50:24
Over the course of 12 years, yes. (nm)
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zounami
MU
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2/18 22:53:29
I see only a few of those as realistic possibilities
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mizzoudiehard
MU
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2/18 21:49:26
Dayton is not a better job than Mizzou
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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2/18 21:51:25
Agreed, it's not even close. (nm)
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zounami
MU
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2/18 22:17:31
Over last ten years:
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tjwheeler
UI
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2/18 22:03:56
He said "job". Obviously, Dayton has had consistent success
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zounami
MU
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2/18 22:20:12
All Time wins: MU 1595 (38th) Dayton 1586 (42nd)
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tjwheeler
UI
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2/18 22:29:21
1) Wins doesn't factor in SoS.. Look at # of NCAA tournament
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zounami
MU
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2/18 22:38:39
Dayton's success isn't just under Miller.
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tjwheeler
UI
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2/18 22:46:47
You're better than this sort of silly flaming, TJ
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AndyTiger
MU
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2/19 00:08:30
Not flaming at all. I think MU is better but Dayton is
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tjwheeler
UI
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2/19 11:09:31
We're two years removed from 6 straight put seasons
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AndyTiger
MU
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2/19 17:44:07
no he isn't (nm)
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90Tiger
MU
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2/19 08:41:20
Regarding Missouri and Illinois, you should read this SI...
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zounami
MU
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2/18 22:53:02
I've read it and didn't draw that conclusion.
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tjwheeler
UI
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2/18 22:56:31
Of course you didn't, with your orange-tinted glasses. (nm)
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zounami
MU
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2/18 23:02:05
And your black and gold-tinted glasses. (nm)
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tjwheeler
UI
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2/18 23:20:19
You are misunderstanding current results
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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2/18 22:14:55
How am I misunderstanding current results?(nm)
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tjwheeler
UI
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2/18 22:17:53
current result are not how good the job is (nm)
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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2/18 22:21:24
Current results from last decade is a decent metric(nm)
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tjwheeler
UI
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2/18 22:29:54
Not really, but even if you want to look at 2008-2017...
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zounami
MU
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2/18 22:32:32
I was comparing Dayton and Missouri.
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tjwheeler
UI
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2/18 22:37:05
You're the one who said "results from last decade is a
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zounami
MU
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2/18 22:40:19
I was using it to compare MU and Dayton and also
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tjwheeler
UI
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2/18 22:48:11
If Miller had been the coach at Illinois or Mizzou
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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2/18 23:00:30
Agree-- in terms of recent success and history, the
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mizzoudiehard
MU
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2/18 22:12:52
They sell out a 13,000-seat arena every night
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mizzoudiehard
MU
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2/18 22:01:49
What if they had Kim Anderson, winning 7 games per year?...
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zounami
MU
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2/18 22:04:21
They're ranked in the Top 30 for attendance every year since
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mizzoudiehard
MU
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2/18 22:10:39
Is that what they reported? We are currently reporting
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zounami
MU
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2/18 22:15:20
Not sure actually. nm
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mizzoudiehard
MU
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2/18 22:19:16
nm (replied to the wrong post)
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zounami
MU
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2/18 22:22:31
BFD. Donate 4M a year for four years and
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UMR85
MU
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2/18 21:28:23
This is a message board. You seem unfamiliar with how they
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zounami
MU
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2/18 21:29:17
I don't see how any of the top 8 leave their
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ERB
KC
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2/18 21:16:47
All we need to do is convince one of them, and I think more
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zounami
MU
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2/18 21:24:49
That is a good point, you never know who's looking to get
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mizzoudiehard
MU
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2/18 21:50:55
Missouri would be an upgrade over many of those schools, so
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zounami
MU
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2/18 22:01:10
Will have to agree to disagree on that.
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mizzoudiehard
MU
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2/18 22:03:48
Why doesn't the Big East get as much TV coverage as the
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zounami
MU
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2/18 22:05:43
True, that's been a legitimate criticism
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mizzoudiehard
MU
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2/18 22:13:37
If it's such a great league, then why is it's coverage so
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zounami
MU
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2/18 22:16:30
I hear you on that
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mizzoudiehard
MU
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2/18 22:20:06
The American is supposedly in talks with WSU
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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2/18 21:53:33
Bad move. WSU goes back to being worthless as soon as
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zounami
MU
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2/18 22:28:59
they were pretty good with Turgeon before Marshall
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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2/18 23:05:49
I'd be thrilled if we got anyone on that list. (nm)
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AndyTiger
MU
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2/18 21:04:48
The funny thing is
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Hoosier Daddy1
IU
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2/18 20:56:12
Cream will want too much, he's been to the top of the
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MU-TULSA
MU
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2/19 09:02:41
New information must be considered. That's why stocks
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zounami
MU
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2/18 21:05:43
RE: My top 16 list of HC candidates (updated)...
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Chi-TownJ
UI
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2/18 20:53:47
Missouri and Illinois are comparable jobs, so you must think
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zounami
MU
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2/18 21:04:24
RE: Missouri and Illinois are comparable jobs, so you must think
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Chi-TownJ
UI
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2/18 21:19:33
Are you talking about Northwestern and their proximity to
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zounami
MU
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2/18 21:23:21
RE: Are you talking about Northwestern and their proximity to
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Chi-TownJ
UI
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2/18 21:27:18
Hmmm. Missouri has a couple population centers as well, and
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zounami
MU
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2/18 21:28:17
illinois is a better job, just not a way better job
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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2/18 21:31:33
To head coaches, Missouri and Illinois are the same...
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zounami
MU
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2/18 21:33:40
What BS to deal with?
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tjwheeler
UI
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2/18 21:43:28
We'll have to agree to disagree. If I were a head coach...
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zounami
MU
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2/18 21:57:09
Okay, Just wondered what the BS would be. (nm)
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tjwheeler
UI
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2/18 22:05:08
Unrealisitically high expectations and resulting
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zounami
MU
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2/18 22:09:34
RE: Unrealisitically high expectations and resulting
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tjwheeler
UI
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2/18 22:20:01
Both are a good coaching hire from being
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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2/18 21:38:59
Arkansas is NOT a better job. It's comparable to
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zounami
MU
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2/18 21:45:33
No way. I'd currently put MU above...
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tjwheeler
UI
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2/18 21:48:41
What do you mean "above"? As a program, MU is 4th...
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zounami
MU
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2/18 21:59:34
Depends on what metrics for evaluating programs*
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tjwheeler
UI
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2/18 22:06:43
Well, if you base it on number of NCAA tournament
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zounami
MU
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2/18 22:13:25
That's all time?
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tjwheeler
UI
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2/18 22:22:45
Yes, all-time. Historically, Missouri is a top 35 *program*
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zounami
MU
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2/18 22:27:30
Don't get how MU job is 25 but program 35
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tjwheeler
UI
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2/18 22:32:10
Winning tradition, excellent recruiting base, only P5 school
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zounami
MU
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2/18 22:42:48
I think most of that is entirely subjective based on
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tjwheeler
UI
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2/18 22:50:17
Easy to rack up wins for a D-1 coach. One of Missouri's
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zounami
MU
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2/18 23:01:08
I wouldn't say that about the BT.
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tjwheeler
UI
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2/18 21:45:29
I would rank Michigan way lower
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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2/18 21:49:34
Title game in 2013, Elite 8 in 2014
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tjwheeler
UI
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2/18 21:56:05
I'm not using current results in ranking the jobs
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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2/18 22:18:55
Okay.
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tjwheeler
UI
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2/18 22:33:33
Yea I was comparing jobs
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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2/18 23:02:12
It's unclear whether he's rankings teams, programs, or
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zounami
MU
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2/18 21:48:05
Good point(nm)
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tjwheeler
UI
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2/18 21:48:56
RE: My top 16 list of HC candidates (updated)...
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Tigerfem
MU
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2/18 20:51:02
Howland is an excellent fallback option...
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zounami
MU
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2/18 21:01:47
I'm not buying Cronin.
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tjwheeler
UI
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2/18 20:38:15
Would be a great hire for either Mizzou or Illinois I think
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mizzoudiehard
MU
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2/18 21:55:33
Has never finished higher than 4th? His last 3 finishes were
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zounami
MU
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2/18 20:44:38
wheeler doesn't like truth(nm)
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TigerFan92
MU
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2/18 21:05:07
and here are Cronin's Kenpom rankings the past 7 seasons...
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zounami
MU
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2/18 20:49:17
Doesn't move the needle for me considering the last
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tjwheeler
UI
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2/18 20:51:15
What difference does conference make for Kenpom ranking? (nm)
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zounami
MU
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2/18 20:53:41
Fewer games against Top 25 or Top 50 teams.
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tjwheeler
UI
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2/18 20:55:25
Kenpom factors that in, SoS, etc... I guess it boils down to
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zounami
MU
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2/18 20:58:36
What was their KenPOM SOS ratings last year?
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tjwheeler
UI
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2/18 21:04:32
Rankings have them 18 as of today
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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2/18 21:00:52
Look at who they've played in last 10 games
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tjwheeler
UI
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2/18 21:12:29
Two top 20 opponents in their last 10 games, one of which
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zounami
MU
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2/18 21:13:50
275, 20, 112, 111, 119, 275, 14, 264, 94, 224
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tjwheeler
UI
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2/18 21:15:27
NCAA tournament bound for a 7th straight season. That's
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zounami
MU
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2/18 21:02:44
I don't think Cronin is anything special.
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tjwheeler
UI
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2/18 21:13:54
Well, he's # 3 on my list. I'll be pumped if we hire him. (nm)
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zounami
MU
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2/18 21:14:54
Again, not saying he's bad, but that MU can do better(nm)
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tjwheeler
UI
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2/18 21:15:46
He would be way better than the last 2 coaches
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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2/18 21:05:25
That is a really low bar(nm)
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tjwheeler
UI
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2/18 21:14:25
Now that I agree with. (nm)
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zounami
MU
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2/18 21:15:08
TJ must consider the MVC conference to be a buzzsaw...
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zounami
MU
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2/18 21:09:55
I'm not alone in valuing Marshall. *
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tjwheeler
UI
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2/18 21:18:18
A lot of people consider Mick Cronin a hot commodity...
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zounami
MU
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2/18 21:22:00
Marshall has dominated that conference
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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2/18 21:13:22
KenPom adjusts for strength of schedule (nm)
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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2/18 20:58:08
I don't consider the AAC a real conference.
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tjwheeler
UI
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2/18 20:48:24
His last year in the (old) Big East, he finished .500 and
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zounami
MU
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2/18 20:50:58
I'm not arguing he's awful, but he's not worthy of 3rd
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tjwheeler
UI
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2/18 20:52:28
if he adapts his offense to the new rules
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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2/18 20:56:48
Is defense hard in the AAC? Meh(nm)
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tjwheeler
UI
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2/18 21:05:03
WSU had the best defense in the nation last year
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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2/18 21:06:52