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Posted on: August 19, 2016 at 17:38:05 CT
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There are relatively few studies of how many players come from the various star rankings. The most authoritative one that I am aware of is one done by the Wall Street Journal several years ago. If found that a higher percentage of five star recruits became players than four star recruits, a higher percentage of four stars became players than three stars, etc. It also found that less than half the five star recruits panned out. The relevant point is some three, two and even unranked recruits became platters. And the relevant conclusion is the more five and four star recruits in a program the more likely it will have more players than a program with mostly two star recruits. Therefore, the more high ranked recruits a program had, the more likely it is to be successful.

The fact that a program has a two star recruit become a star (the Weatherspoon argument) doesn't alter or negate that conclusion. Weatherspoon was simply a two star who worked out.

Another argument that's always made is Pinkel and his staff were very good at identifying diamonds in the rough. There may have been some truth to that, but that's also a very tough way for a staff to make a living, always having to be better talent evaluators than their competition.

A third argument is Pinkel and staff were good talent developers. Again there was some truth to that and it's again a tough way to make a living, always having to overcome an opponent's edge in raw talent.

The post yesterday or the day before reporting the ratio of five and four star recruits to two and three star recruits on nation championship teams as further weight that it's better to have higher ranked recruiting classes than lower ranked ones.

Look at who Pinkel offered. That group includes a lot of high ranked recruits which suggests they were Pinkel's first choice. Can anyone cite a case where Pinkel passed on a high ranked recruit to sign a lower rated recruit. There may well have been a few, but not very many.

And finally ask Odom whether he would rather have just next ten classes ranked 40th or 20th.

Recruiting produces the raw material that goes into a program. Recruit rankings are far from 100% accurate, but they do have some validity. And the better the raw material, the more the coaches have to work with and the more likely the program will be successful.
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Mizzou recruiting ranking last 10 years..... - coolbean MU - 8/19 14:49:14
     - Football Fiji - Mr. Orange SU - 8/19 19:37:17
     Stellar seasons in 2007 (#4/34), 2008 (#19/25 class), - Bobk MU - 8/19 18:28:04
     "How can even a die hard Tiger fan see success" a fact? - MoGold MU - 8/19 18:10:41
          Are you convinced we REALLY averaged years of 10 wins?/? - Mothball MU - 8/19 18:23:48
     Uncool beans - MKrip MU - 8/19 18:05:21
     How about we just convince you to go elsewhere? - MoGold MU - 8/19 17:53:14
          RE: How about we just convince you to go elsewhere? - brief candle MU - 8/19 18:02:34
               Doesn't really matter does it - Nohawks KC - 8/20 09:58:28
               Those recruiting rankings are people's subjective opinions - Bobk MU - 8/19 18:29:59
               See above, not a fact - MoGold MU - 8/19 18:11:27
               STARS ARE FACTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111 - Mothball MU - 8/19 18:06:40
     These last 10 years of FAILURE are because of STARS!!!!!!!!1 - Mothball MU - 8/19 17:31:56
     I'd like to see how we do with reLSU - MATO MU - 8/19 16:51:50
          Type classes. nm - MATO MU - 8/19 16:53:39
     Dont get your information from ignorant pundits - cal MU - 8/19 16:34:14
     And Mizzou's actual rankings almost always are higher - Cosmo MU - 8/19 15:52:57
          Not just that, but as others have noted... - MOOZOO MU - 8/19 16:05:38
     RE: Mizzou recruiting ranking last 10 years..... - CPA MU - 8/19 15:50:45
          And . . .runs rampant in the responses, as usual - ScottsdaleTiger MU - 8/19 17:38:05
          I never saw that emphasis on quantity in ranking. - GA Tiger MU - 8/19 15:53:09
               RE: I never saw that emphasis on quantity in ranking. - CPA MU - 8/19 17:10:07
               Rivals rankings are skewed by numbers of recruits - JimD MU - 8/19 16:01:26
     we won't be that good just average good ole Mizzou - Beakerbasher KC - 8/19 15:37:23
     become a Bama fan - RidinThePine MU - 8/19 15:28:21
     We're screwed...you should probably pick a new team. Nm - BandG MU - 8/19 15:23:37
     RE: Mizzou recruiting ranking last 10 years..... - brief candle MU - 8/19 15:20:40
          So is the whacking of the weeds - Nohawks KC - 8/19 18:16:21
          How's the season ticket sales for your chickenhawks, dbag? (nm) - BB63 STL - 8/19 15:40:02
          You and coolbean need to get together and cheer your team... - BandG MU - 8/19 15:25:32
               Hahahaha - JimD MU - 8/19 15:56:41
     How many stars do you have down for Spoon? - MizzouTigerz MU - 8/19 15:15:12
          RE: How many stars do you have down for Spoon? - CPA MU - 8/19 15:21:22
               Name eight busts from that class - JimD MU - 8/19 16:36:29
                    RE: Name eight busts from that class - CPA MU - 8/19 17:57:53
                         Here is a little known fact. A team is made up of more than - MizzouTigerz MU - 8/20 17:13:37
                         You don't evaluate a class by one player - JimD MU - 8/19 20:00:59
                              RE: You don't evaluate a class by one player - CPA MU - 8/20 10:10:07
               I don't know about you but I am not going to sit here and... - BandG MU - 8/19 15:30:06
                    RE: I don't know about you but I am not going to sit here and... - CPA MU - 8/19 15:39:54
               Who is Greg? And have you assigned zero stars to players of - MizzouTigerz MU - 8/19 15:29:14
                    RE: Who is Greg? And have you assigned zero stars to players of - CPA MU - 8/19 15:46:29
                    Watch Animal House.nm - BandG MU - 8/19 15:31:25
                         RE: Watch Animal House.nm - MizzouTigerz MU - 8/19 15:34:02
          Very true. One of the best young C in the NFL is this guy - Diamond Dave MU - 8/19 15:20:24
     STARS!!!!!!!!!! (nm) - Cosmo MU - 8/19 15:03:56
          GOLL DURN RIGHT!!!!!!11! STARS FOREVER!!!!1 - Mothball MU - 8/19 17:30:43
     I'll take a stab - Diamond Dave MU - 8/19 15:00:59
          Well said. - MizzouTigerz MU - 8/19 15:11:46
               Trent Dilfer said Lock was the most NFL-ready - Diamond Dave MU - 8/19 15:17:19
     Not being given to irrational tirades helps. - MizzouTigerz MU - 8/19 14:58:48
     post michigan state's(nm) - tmcats KSU - 8/19 14:54:41
          Quit ordering people around. - BB63 STL - 8/19 15:36:06
               oh stfu and give me a beer(nm) - tmcats KSU - 8/19 15:39:52
                    How about I filter it first? - BB63 STL - 8/19 15:45:16
                         best college town in america, dude(nm) - tmcats KSU - 8/19 15:52:34
                              You've inhaled too much of that foul stench that - BB63 STL - 8/19 16:07:17
     no (nm) - BurgTiger MU - 8/19 14:51:18




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