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RE: True but he should have been fired the day he hired

Posted on: September 17, 2024 at 15:46:03 CT
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At the time he interviewed for MU's job, Haith was 129-101 for a .561 winning %, with 1 NCAA tournament appearance in 7 seasons and 1 total NCAA tourney win. The most victories he had in a single year was 23, and he had 4 seasons of 20 wins. This was accomplished in the ACC. He was credited with signing 6 McDonald’s All American’s and had been named by Rivals the National Recruiter of the Year.

At the time he interviewed for MU's job in 1999, Bill Self was 97-76 for a .561 winning %, with 1 NCAA tournament appearance in 6 seasons and 1 total NCAA tourney win. The most victories he had in a single year was 23, and he had 2 seasons of 20 wins. This was accomplished as an independent and also in the WAC. He had never signed anyone at a national level.
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Hard to believe we’ve had 30 years of mostly ass - TigerMatt MISS - 9/12 23:55:38
     This is what I say about my golf game. (nm) - mizzou john MU - 9/19 14:37:35
     In today's world, you have to pay if you want good - Tiger_1995 MU - 9/15 14:31:52
     Yep, sounds like Mizzou football in the 80s and 90s. That's - BigWally MU - 9/15 12:10:31
          The problem with our football team in the 80's started - XRob MU - 9/15 21:44:04
     Simple concept. Make better hires. Did it with Pinkel - Diamond Dave MU - 9/14 09:48:27
     Frank Haith was the death penalty (nm) - TigerFan92 STL - 9/14 08:08:59
          Not a great hire, but I think you mean "Kim". (nm) - mizzou john MU - 9/19 14:39:21
          And yet, Haith is the only coach of the last decade - Yosa125 TAMU - 9/14 13:49:45
               Attributing MU bb demise in any significant way to Haith - FIJItiger MU - 9/14 20:10:50
                    Keep saying it and you will eventually believe it but our AD - TigerFan92 STL - 9/15 07:36:11
                         Alden’s job was in danger when he hired Mike Anderson, not - alwaysright MU - 9/16 17:21:24
                              True but he should have been fired the day he hired - SabertoothTiger MU - 9/17 14:57:00
                                   RE: True but he should have been fired the day he hired - FIJItiger MU - 9/17 15:46:03
                                        Bill Self: Last 4 years before MO interview - 81-38 = .680. - Lovely Rita UW - 9/18 11:16:07
                                             Career to that point - FIJItiger MU - 9/18 12:08:17
                                                  Because the most recent years are obviously the most - Lovely Rita UW - 9/18 12:31:47
                                                       Selfs first good season was after MU hired Quin - FIJItiger MU - 9/18 14:52:43
                                                            Ignore the pre-Quinn rebuilds at ORU and Tulsa? - Lovely Rita UW - 9/18 15:22:20
                                                                 Huge mistake by Alden right there that led to MU's - MUTGR MU - 9/18 20:51:47
                                                                 Disagree, it’s still not obvious. He is almost certainly - FIJItiger MU - 9/18 15:34:34
                                                                      Be sure to mention that to the Hall of Fame. - Lovely Rita UW - 9/18 16:11:22
                                                                           RE: Be sure to mention that to the Hall of Fame. - FIJItiger MU - 9/18 16:37:35
                                        Frank had proven he couldn’t win at the major level. Bill - alwaysright MU - 9/17 16:02:23
                                             I see. So the fact Haith had equivalent success at the - FIJItiger MU - 9/18 06:30:47
                                                  He didn’t have success at Miami. And once he lost the - alwaysright MU - 9/18 06:50:31
                                                       RE: He didn’t have success at Miami. And once he lost the - FIJItiger MU - 9/18 07:32:50
                                                            He couldn’t coach talent when he had it - alwaysright MU - 9/18 11:41:24
                                                                 That is weird he won 30 games and was recognized as NCOY(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 9/18 12:09:40
                                                                 He showed his first season at Mizzou - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/18 11:56:11
                                                                      Did he, or did the old guy that Frank asked what to do - alwaysright MU - 9/24 16:43:20
                                                       If he hadn’t been prevented from recruiting after 2012 and - FIJItiger MU - 9/18 07:12:22
                         Check out these types of posts - FIJItiger MU - 9/15 13:10:13
                         You have a gift - JayHoaxH8r MU - 9/15 10:56:32
                    Agree - Genco98 MU - 9/15 07:11:30
               Put himself and the program on probation to where misfits - TigerFan92 STL - 9/14 15:14:59
                    Pretty sure we could have hired someone other - Newcatbirdseat MU - 9/14 15:52:04
                         KA was a placeholder through probation - TigerFan92 STL - 9/15 07:37:57
     Sure, if you take out all the good years - Gavin Citrus MU - 9/14 07:33:10
     Multiple athletic directors have given fans what they want - alstl MU - 9/13 21:36:28
          There's only one AD responsible for the **** show our - XRob MU - 9/13 21:58:10
               Gates took Cleveland State to the NIT but he is EXCITING!!!(nm) - alstl MU - 9/14 10:27:02
                    I'm inclined to give Gates a pass on last year - XRob MU - 9/16 11:37:32
                         I wouldn’t call it a pass - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/16 12:03:12
                    Also the NCAAT (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/15 16:58:04
                         Not the year we hired him(nm) - alstl MU - 9/15 17:17:34
                              Conference champs both years (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/15 18:00:20
                                   Nobody conference - confirming my point. Multiple AD have - alstl MU - 9/15 21:40:44
                                        I could see you not liking a coach with multiple - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/15 21:51:39
                                             Won the conference but didn't make the NCAA tournament?(nm) - alstl MU - 9/16 08:51:38
                                                  Maybe you don’t understand how the NCAA - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/16 10:16:05
                                                       Multiple athletic directors have given fans what they want - alstl MU - 9/16 14:31:40
               MA quit after being forced to hire KA (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/13 22:51:32
                    He embarrassed himself with the Painter fiasco nm - pinkman MU - 9/13 23:31:31
                         RE: He embarrassed himself with the Painter fiasco nm - XRob MU - 9/14 07:39:19
                              Need better players. Coaching overrated - cybertyger MU - 9/15 06:12:52
                                   I think coaching is important - Genco98 MU - 9/16 08:55:36
                                   1 great player won’t make you a top 10 team. (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/15 09:19:01
                                        Add Chris Weber and see what happens. - cybertyger MU - 9/15 11:41:29
                                             (Webber) Part of the ‘Fab Five’ - one of the greatest - Lovely Rita UW - 9/16 07:57:51
                                             Weber played on a team full of hall of famers - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/15 16:57:34
     KIM ANDERSON TAUGHT CRISP GOLL DURN CHEST PASSES!!!1 - Mothball MU - 9/13 15:48:50
     MU gave up on mens bb in 2014. It might someday - FIJItiger MU - 9/13 14:20:26
          You say this all the time and you are wrong - DevilsAdvocate KC - 9/13 14:23:56
               Of course. One of many idiotic beliefs he clings to (nm) - hou4mu MU - 9/13 20:12:00
               Well from 2014 to current I’ve been correct - FIJItiger MU - 9/13 14:26:34
                    you are wrong all the time. You know spreadsheets - SabertoothTiger MU - 9/13 14:38:07
                         I both hope and wish that was occasionally the case - FIJItiger MU - 9/13 14:44:16
     Norm had a few more good years left in him - MUHoopster MU - 9/13 11:18:55
          Anderson had one great team but he wasn't a great fit - MUTGR MU - 9/18 08:39:11
               He should have stayed (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/18 17:17:38
          It is not easy(nm) - DevilsAdvocate KC - 9/13 14:21:16
          ehhh....... - alwaysright MU - 9/13 12:16:08
     RE: Hard to believe we’ve had 30 years of mostly ass - Ragarm MU - 9/13 10:55:45
     reality - alwaysright MU - 9/13 10:10:57
     Move to the SEC helped drowned the program. Nm - ClassicTiger MU - 9/13 08:22:19
          I don't think it was the move to the SEC. We weren't - tgr MU - 9/13 08:39:18
               Where would we be if Alden had hired Self instead of Quin? n - pinkman MU - 9/13 11:49:52
                    Slightly worse, but not as significantly worse because he - FIJItiger MU - 9/13 14:27:49
                    Nowhere - Wildcat KSU - 9/13 14:06:33
                    Hard to know for sure but we do know that Alden - alwaysright MU - 9/13 11:56:21
               SEC has had no impact at all. It's all on the - alwaysright MU - 9/13 10:11:49
     Yep(nm) - Erwin Fletcher STL - 9/13 08:14:37
     Been extremely inconsistent (nm) - DevilsAdvocate KC - 9/13 07:43:14
          it's seems consistent just not in the way we want it(nm) - TigerA MU - 9/13 09:46:42
     I said it then and I’ll say it now. Norm did a lot of great - alwaysright MU - 9/13 07:28:38
          funny he was only 64 when he "retired" seemed - TigerA MU - 9/13 09:54:46
               And yet he's still going nm - pinkman MU - 9/13 23:50:10
          So did the Administration(nm) - WrightWing MU - 9/13 09:07:13
          Norm was the first coach I saw at Mizzou - mu7176grad MU - 9/13 09:03:19
          Blame the only guy who won consistently at BBall here and - MUTGR MU - 9/13 08:38:14
               Alden was not good for basketball, but blaming it on - alwaysright MU - 9/13 09:57:17
                    Snyder wasn't a great fit at Mizzou at the time and wasn't - MUTGR MU - 9/13 12:31:03
                         Like I said several times, if Mike Alden had given - alwaysright MU - 9/13 12:39:11
                              Well Alden passed on another soon to be great coach in - MUTGR MU - 9/13 16:25:48
                                   Alden would’ve hamstrung Self - alwaysright MU - 9/13 19:24:46
                                        Sure it is. He had a choice to make at the time and he - MUTGR MU - 9/13 19:40:48
                                             Self wouldn’t be who you think he is at Mizzou under - alwaysright MU - 9/13 22:05:04
                              Agreed 100%(nm) - DevilsAdvocate KC - 9/13 14:20:24
          Norm kept the entire athletic program afloat for 25 years. - ClassicTiger MU - 9/13 08:25:20
               Schools are now able to turn programs around in a couple - Tiger_1995 MU - 9/13 09:26:19
          Agreed. (nm) - DevilsAdvocate KC - 9/13 07:43:37
               I felt the 2011-12 team - semotiger83 MU - 9/13 07:59:28
                    That team only played 6 players. The 08-09 team was the…… - ClassicTiger MU - 9/13 08:20:40
                         7. Steve Moore was a crucial contributor (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 9/13 14:31:57
                         RE: That team only played 6 players. The 08-09 team was the…… - semotiger83 MU - 9/13 10:13:43
                              Yes they were great. But zero depth. Foul trouble was fatal. - ClassicTiger MU - 9/13 14:02:18
                                   Minor injuries to English and Denmon - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/13 17:20:19




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