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Posted on: February 24, 2024 at 10:13:51 CT
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Perfectly reasonable you would be. It’s a narrative tailored to low information fans and why as a KSU fan would you possess a high level of knowledge about an at the time SEC program.

If you are interested, at the same time many articles are available for googling about how Haith destroyed our APR. Despite every player that was an APR hit leaving after Kim took over and MU curiously not requesting any waivers for something that waivers are overwhelming and routinely granted for. That is the way our AD worked at the time.

For people who had intimate and inside knowledge of the program not a hint of impropriety or NCAA investigation was known until Jan 2016, nearly two years into Kim’s tenure. They are aware that some questions arose surrounding Jakeenan Gant qualifying academically and he and his mother relocation to the lake of the ozarks for his senior season. That was all certainly questionable and worth looking into, and it’s worth noting none of that is included in the actual report because it was all found to be above board. After Kim was hired and started historically failing, MU conducted a self investigation and self prenalized in January of 2016. 8 months later after reviewing the evidence MU presented and their proposed self penalties the NCAA accepted MU’s self penalties (although the did remove two of MUs reported violations as non violations from the final report). Despite a heavy vested interest and exhaustive attempt, there is a single level 3 violation in the report pertaining to recruiting. A player named Ahmed Hill, who never went to MU, was involved in an improper workout with a booster present during a recruiting visit from Tim Fuller. That is it…that is the whole basis for MU having a cheating staff. There aren’t even any other alleged violations much less proven ones. The rest of the report is about compliance failures and boosters not reporting activities during the offseason with already signed players. There is no written notice of allegations received by MU from the NCAA. If there was actual cheating to uncover, MU tried very hard to find it and failed to do so. What happened is MU crafted an anonymous allegation they were investigating about Gant at the time Haith left into an ‘NCAA investigation’.

That is because that 3 year period is unique in MU history in that virtually no impropriety was allowed to occur. Due to the issues at Miami that staff operated in the cleanest manner possible often to its sizable detriment. It is only after the fact that MU created a narrative that Kim’s tenure was limited by the inherited situation. In fact only after he had significantly failed and proven he couldn’t possibly do this job. It’s also notable that the main violation included in the report is MU sending already committed student athletes to an improperly vetted internship. This occurred both before and after Kim became our coach. Now I don’t want to attribute competence where none is due, but if MU actually was involved in an investigation over the matter when Haith left and MU had been notified of such an allegation that is wild incompetence to just continue sending players to said internship after they were made aware. Or maybe that actually wasn’t being investigated until much later, not an inherited investigation with no notice of allegations by the Kim staff that prompted Haith to leave.

There is your MU bb education if you care for one.

Edited by FIJItiger at 10:30:09 on 02/24/24
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     I have no issue with Kim over than he did not win enough - DevilsAdvocate KC - 2/24 09:48:47
     I agree with some of that but when Kim went psycho on - alstl MU - 2/24 07:56:30
     Unsurprisingly all 4 points are easily observablely false - FIJItiger MU - 2/24 07:26:00
          The program's not ruined forever. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 2/24 08:46:44
               Good luck towards living to see it. Most likely you won’t (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 2/24 08:48:27
          I could tell by years worth of prior posts - Wildcat KSU - 2/24 08:30:06
               no offense, you don’t know what you are talking about - FIJItiger MU - 2/24 08:41:06
                    Made the second round of the NCAA Tourney last year. damn - thytiger MU - 2/24 10:43:58
                    None taken - Wildcat KSU - 2/24 09:17:09
                         Pressey went undrafted, English was a second round pick that - FIJItiger MU - 2/24 09:22:12
                              Sorry, but Haith's best year - Wildcat KSU - 2/24 09:31:16
                                   You could have coached that team to the same record... - BandG MU - 2/24 10:00:37
                                        RE: You could have coached that team to the same record... - FIJItiger MU - 2/24 10:27:32
                                   Agree,that was his best season and a great yr as a Tiger fan - FIJItiger MU - 2/24 09:40:18
                                        FWIW - Wildcat KSU - 2/24 09:51:28
                                             Agree, you are poisoned by their misinformation and its - FIJItiger MU - 2/24 10:13:51
                    Very little there was not basically correct.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 2/24 09:11:17
               You remember correctly because you think - gaber c. MU - 2/24 08:36:58
          I've asked many people multiple times now and have not - gaber c. MU - 2/24 07:56:24
               RE: I've asked many people multiple times now and have not - FIJItiger MU - 2/24 08:10:42
                    They would have been very good in 2019 - gaber c. MU - 2/24 08:19:18
                         No, they wouldn’t have been - FIJItiger MU - 2/24 08:26:35
                              How could a guy gone 7 years now possibly have - gaber c. MU - 2/24 08:34:12
                                   Because his tenure ruined our program - FIJItiger MU - 2/24 08:47:35
                                        You can't be that level of stupid to think you are - gaber c. MU - 2/24 08:55:01
                                             I will never, under any circumstances, contribute a dime to - FIJItiger MU - 2/24 09:00:09
                                             So we just need to spend more - JayHoaxH8r MU - 2/24 08:58:48
                                                  That's the plan - Wildcat KSU - 2/24 09:21:28
                                                  What do you think the bluebloods do dummy? - gaber c. MU - 2/24 09:03:50
                                                       That's not all it takes - JayHoaxH8r MU - 2/24 09:08:14
     What the hell are we debating now - DevilsAdvocate KC - 2/24 06:10:07
          “Cratering” is also an odd term - Genco98 MU - 2/24 08:20:48
               You can have a good season instantly - FIJItiger MU - 2/24 08:34:54
                    Reasonable response - Genco98 MU - 2/24 09:18:26
                         Mike didn’t leave things in a bad state - FIJItiger MU - 2/24 09:28:14
                    Spending money, providing top leve resources for the players - gaber c. MU - 2/24 08:50:33
                         Isn’t it weird how your clear and straight forward path to - FIJItiger MU - 2/24 08:55:45
                              Kids being recruited in 2024 have no earthly idea - gaber c. MU - 2/24 09:01:50
                                   They do know MU doesn’t take bb seriously and are the worst - FIJItiger MU - 2/24 09:18:14
                                        Wouldn't the fact that Mizzou bb being down in 2024 - gaber c. MU - 2/24 10:43:57
                                             Do you think prior to Kim’s impact, MU is in - FIJItiger MU - 2/24 10:47:04
               Turn a basketball program around instantly - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/24 08:31:35
     RE: Realities the small handful of constantly posting Tigerboard - Carlos Rossi KC - 2/23 22:18:19
          How were they so talented and successful in 2018 if - gaber c. MU - 2/23 22:20:42
               You do realize we won 20 games in 2018 - FIJItiger MU - 2/24 07:38:29
                    That team was terrific and would have ended up - gaber c. MU - 2/24 08:06:22
                         I brought up a local kid who played his butt off - gaber c. MU - 2/24 08:27:39
                         This doesn’t rise to the level of believable foolishness - FIJItiger MU - 2/24 08:17:57
                              Why would Cuonzo have played the guy so much if - gaber c. MU - 2/24 08:22:46
                                   Our roster was limited and Cuonzo wasn’t particularly bright - FIJItiger MU - 2/24 08:51:16
                         Turn in your hoops card. - alwaysright MU - 2/24 08:14:40
     Pretty sure Gates resurrected the program. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 2/23 21:59:59
          Fred Hoiberg's first 3 years at Nebraska are - gaber c. MU - 2/23 22:16:49
               KA was never going to put a competitive team - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/23 22:22:17
                    KA started in a hole with sanctions - fatrat MU - 2/24 06:04:39
                         Kim self imposed sanction in 2016, two years into his tenure - FIJItiger MU - 2/24 07:42:18
                         North Carolina and Kansas both won national titles - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/24 07:18:50
                              You believe these crooked bluebloods stopped - gaber c. MU - 2/24 07:48:49
                                   Kansas had 1 top 50 recruit - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/24 08:21:43
                                   MU self imposed a post season ban for 2016 in a year - FIJItiger MU - 2/24 08:03:58
                                        RE: MU self imposed a post season ban for 2016 in a year - gaber c. MU - 2/24 08:13:43
                                             No, they didn’t and that is totally false - FIJItiger MU - 2/24 10:38:01
                                                  You're absolutely nuts. - gaber c. MU - 2/24 10:56:41
                                                       Totally false. Would love to see even remote evidence - FIJItiger MU - 2/24 11:12:20
                    This opinion of yours is just as worthless as - gaber c. MU - 2/23 22:34:53
                         Gates doesn’t prefer undersized teams. - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/23 22:57:51
                              RE: Gates doesn’t prefer undersized teams. - gaber c. MU - 2/24 06:58:34
                                   Why do you think Majak is getting major minutes - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/24 07:15:59
                                        He's just the latest guy up on Gates' big man - gaber c. MU - 2/24 07:36:43
                                             He’s playing because he does the 2 things you keep - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/24 07:48:26
                                                  He's getting half the time the guards and Carter do just - gaber c. MU - 2/24 08:01:50
                                                       His best 4 play the most minutes - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/24 08:17:12
                                                            Those guys are not his best 4 when it comes to - gaber c. MU - 2/24 08:39:55
                                                                 They are usually the 4 that gives Mizzou the best chance - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/24 08:55:59
                                                                      They are 1-15, 0-13 in conference with those guys getting - gaber c. MU - 2/24 09:09:22
                                                                           They are still the ones that give Mizzou - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/24 09:21:26




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