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Unsurprisingly all 4 points are easily observablely false

Posted on: February 24, 2024 at 07:26:00 CT
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Fundamentally what the low information Kim fans fail to grasp (beyond how college bb works) is that in the efforts to incorrectly slander MU to justify the overwhelming failures of Kim and cast blame elsewhere, they do so at the expense of good MU teams and good MU student athletes who represented MU well. There were a lot of extremely good players who played for Haith who all hold MU degrees and were not involved in any of the fake impropriety that your ilk vaguely try to smear that era with. The actual reality is that MU was a very good national caliber program during that era that was fundamentally limited by how clean they were forced to be by our AD and lost an entire crucial freshman class because of it, which is what set the staff on a path of using transfers. In reality there has probably never been a cleaner and by the books 3 year period in MU history dating back to at least the 60s than the 3 years Haith coached here, certainly more so than the 3 years that followed when Kim took over and everything became a total **** show.

There is an obvious change in program direction when we hired Kim, and yes that was a long time ago but the obvious effects are still visible today and MU bb will never recover back to a normal state from the impact of his tenure. It’s not fair to put that on Cuonzo or Gates. They inherited a ruined program. It’s too late, it can’t be fixed. There are some mistakes that simply can’t be overcome. But it is infuriating to those of us who cared about MU bb that watched it get ruined in such a stupid experiment to listen to the inane excuse making and scapegoating. It’s not a difficult to determine riddle what is the root cause of what befell MU bb and it would have only been a surprising outcome if miraculously Kim 3 year tenure has turned out less detrimental.
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     I have no issue with Kim over than he did not win enough - DevilsAdvocate KC - 2/24 09:48:47
     I agree with some of that but when Kim went psycho on - alstl MU - 2/24 07:56:30
     Unsurprisingly all 4 points are easily observablely false - FIJItiger MU - 2/24 07:26:00
          The program's not ruined forever. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 2/24 08:46:44
               Good luck towards living to see it. Most likely you won’t (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 2/24 08:48:27
          I could tell by years worth of prior posts - Wildcat KSU - 2/24 08:30:06
               no offense, you don’t know what you are talking about - FIJItiger MU - 2/24 08:41:06
                    Made the second round of the NCAA Tourney last year. damn - thytiger MU - 2/24 10:43:58
                    None taken - Wildcat KSU - 2/24 09:17:09
                         Pressey went undrafted, English was a second round pick that - FIJItiger MU - 2/24 09:22:12
                              Sorry, but Haith's best year - Wildcat KSU - 2/24 09:31:16
                                   You could have coached that team to the same record... - BandG MU - 2/24 10:00:37
                                        RE: You could have coached that team to the same record... - FIJItiger MU - 2/24 10:27:32
                                   Agree,that was his best season and a great yr as a Tiger fan - FIJItiger MU - 2/24 09:40:18
                                        FWIW - Wildcat KSU - 2/24 09:51:28
                                             Agree, you are poisoned by their misinformation and its - FIJItiger MU - 2/24 10:13:51
                    Very little there was not basically correct.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 2/24 09:11:17
               You remember correctly because you think - gaber c. MU - 2/24 08:36:58
          I've asked many people multiple times now and have not - gaber c. MU - 2/24 07:56:24
               RE: I've asked many people multiple times now and have not - FIJItiger MU - 2/24 08:10:42
                    They would have been very good in 2019 - gaber c. MU - 2/24 08:19:18
                         No, they wouldn’t have been - FIJItiger MU - 2/24 08:26:35
                              How could a guy gone 7 years now possibly have - gaber c. MU - 2/24 08:34:12
                                   Because his tenure ruined our program - FIJItiger MU - 2/24 08:47:35
                                        You can't be that level of stupid to think you are - gaber c. MU - 2/24 08:55:01
                                             I will never, under any circumstances, contribute a dime to - FIJItiger MU - 2/24 09:00:09
                                             So we just need to spend more - JayHoaxH8r MU - 2/24 08:58:48
                                                  That's the plan - Wildcat KSU - 2/24 09:21:28
                                                  What do you think the bluebloods do dummy? - gaber c. MU - 2/24 09:03:50
                                                       That's not all it takes - JayHoaxH8r MU - 2/24 09:08:14
     What the hell are we debating now - DevilsAdvocate KC - 2/24 06:10:07
          “Cratering” is also an odd term - Genco98 MU - 2/24 08:20:48
               You can have a good season instantly - FIJItiger MU - 2/24 08:34:54
                    Reasonable response - Genco98 MU - 2/24 09:18:26
                         Mike didn’t leave things in a bad state - FIJItiger MU - 2/24 09:28:14
                    Spending money, providing top leve resources for the players - gaber c. MU - 2/24 08:50:33
                         Isn’t it weird how your clear and straight forward path to - FIJItiger MU - 2/24 08:55:45
                              Kids being recruited in 2024 have no earthly idea - gaber c. MU - 2/24 09:01:50
                                   They do know MU doesn’t take bb seriously and are the worst - FIJItiger MU - 2/24 09:18:14
                                        Wouldn't the fact that Mizzou bb being down in 2024 - gaber c. MU - 2/24 10:43:57
                                             Do you think prior to Kim’s impact, MU is in - FIJItiger MU - 2/24 10:47:04
               Turn a basketball program around instantly - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/24 08:31:35
     RE: Realities the small handful of constantly posting Tigerboard - Carlos Rossi KC - 2/23 22:18:19
          How were they so talented and successful in 2018 if - gaber c. MU - 2/23 22:20:42
               You do realize we won 20 games in 2018 - FIJItiger MU - 2/24 07:38:29
                    That team was terrific and would have ended up - gaber c. MU - 2/24 08:06:22
                         I brought up a local kid who played his butt off - gaber c. MU - 2/24 08:27:39
                         This doesn’t rise to the level of believable foolishness - FIJItiger MU - 2/24 08:17:57
                              Why would Cuonzo have played the guy so much if - gaber c. MU - 2/24 08:22:46
                                   Our roster was limited and Cuonzo wasn’t particularly bright - FIJItiger MU - 2/24 08:51:16
                         Turn in your hoops card. - alwaysright MU - 2/24 08:14:40
     Pretty sure Gates resurrected the program. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 2/23 21:59:59
          Fred Hoiberg's first 3 years at Nebraska are - gaber c. MU - 2/23 22:16:49
               KA was never going to put a competitive team - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/23 22:22:17
                    KA started in a hole with sanctions - fatrat MU - 2/24 06:04:39
                         Kim self imposed sanction in 2016, two years into his tenure - FIJItiger MU - 2/24 07:42:18
                         North Carolina and Kansas both won national titles - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/24 07:18:50
                              You believe these crooked bluebloods stopped - gaber c. MU - 2/24 07:48:49
                                   Kansas had 1 top 50 recruit - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/24 08:21:43
                                   MU self imposed a post season ban for 2016 in a year - FIJItiger MU - 2/24 08:03:58
                                        RE: MU self imposed a post season ban for 2016 in a year - gaber c. MU - 2/24 08:13:43
                                             No, they didn’t and that is totally false - FIJItiger MU - 2/24 10:38:01
                                                  You're absolutely nuts. - gaber c. MU - 2/24 10:56:41
                                                       Totally false. Would love to see even remote evidence - FIJItiger MU - 2/24 11:12:20
                    This opinion of yours is just as worthless as - gaber c. MU - 2/23 22:34:53
                         Gates doesn’t prefer undersized teams. - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/23 22:57:51
                              RE: Gates doesn’t prefer undersized teams. - gaber c. MU - 2/24 06:58:34
                                   Why do you think Majak is getting major minutes - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/24 07:15:59
                                        He's just the latest guy up on Gates' big man - gaber c. MU - 2/24 07:36:43
                                             He’s playing because he does the 2 things you keep - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/24 07:48:26
                                                  He's getting half the time the guards and Carter do just - gaber c. MU - 2/24 08:01:50
                                                       His best 4 play the most minutes - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/24 08:17:12
                                                            Those guys are not his best 4 when it comes to - gaber c. MU - 2/24 08:39:55
                                                                 They are usually the 4 that gives Mizzou the best chance - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/24 08:55:59
                                                                      They are 1-15, 0-13 in conference with those guys getting - gaber c. MU - 2/24 09:09:22
                                                                           They are still the ones that give Mizzou - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/24 09:21:26




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