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tariffs are a tax

Posted on: March 26, 2021 at 15:58:07 CT
ashtray UF
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inflation is a tax

So even if you lower the income tax rate, if you are increasing tariffs and deficit spending, you are creating a net loss to the citizens.
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Never doubt dems lust for taxes - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/26 14:20:22
     You pay your bills bippy boy. You seem put out that - Floyd Turbo 99 - 3/26 14:44:42
     Totally agree. keep the government off my public - KCMuskie MU - 3/26 14:33:15
          The issue is simply settle for how many times and ways - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/26 14:43:35
     it is not only the Dems - meatiger MU - 3/26 14:26:08
          Then you should have no problem coming up with several - Spanky KU - 3/26 14:27:08
               Tax revenue increased under Trump - meatiger MU - 3/26 14:28:22
                    Income increased under Trump due to tax cuts - Spanky KU - 3/26 14:29:12
                         No (nm) - pickle MU - 3/26 15:18:01
                              Yes(nm) - Spanky KU - 3/26 16:57:10
                         taxes went up under him - meatiger MU - 3/26 14:30:09
                              tax rates went down, income went up - Spanky KU - 3/26 15:30:59
                                   So higher taxes prevent growth of govt - ashtray UF - 3/26 15:32:15
                                        higher taxes prevent growth of personal income(nm) - Spanky KU - 3/26 16:17:17
                                             False - ashtray UF - 3/26 16:19:07
                                                  It grows more when tax rates are lower - Spanky KU - 3/26 16:31:34
                                                       Corporate earnings also grow regardless of tax rates - ashtray UF - 3/26 16:34:34
                                                            Earnings are not profit - Spanky KU - 3/26 17:54:14
                                                                 You said "income" not profit - ashtray UF - 3/27 08:26:38
                                        It actually can assuming you dont defect spend* - tman MU - 3/26 15:51:25
                                             So why aren't Republicans trying to raise taxes? - ashtray UF - 3/26 15:55:36
                                        hmmmm..you may be on to something - meatiger MU - 3/26 15:34:57
                              Tax revenue sent up. Tax rates went down(nm) - tman MU - 3/26 14:53:17
                                   tariffs are a tax (nm) - ashtray UF - 3/26 15:06:39
                                        Yep. Did the tariff rate increase impact you more the. - tman MU - 3/26 15:18:23
                                             Yes. I buy a lot of imports (nm) - ashtray UF - 3/26 15:19:06
                                                  Are you an importer and exporter? - meatiger MU - 3/26 16:10:51
                                                       I just prefer quality products (nm) - ashtray UF - 3/26 16:11:56
                                                  I bet it went down on total for you. But ok(nm) - tman MU - 3/26 15:20:58
                                                       You would be wrong (nm) - ashtray UF - 3/26 15:21:26
                                   It's the same thing - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/26 14:56:20
                                        I can use his logic. End of the day I had more money - tman MU - 3/26 15:16:16
                              So if you work to expand the economy so more - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/26 14:32:12
                                   It is an increase in tax revenue - meatiger MU - 3/26 14:34:03
                                        People keep more of their money when you lower - MUTGR MU - 3/26 14:51:47
                                             Spending and taxes were at record highs under Trump - pickle MU - 3/26 14:54:59
                                                  Tax revenue and spending. Overall rates went down - tman MU - 3/26 15:19:30
                                                       spending rates did not go down - meatiger MU - 3/26 15:23:02
                                             Why does government NEED more money - meatiger MU - 3/26 14:54:29
                                                  Quit changing the arguments. Hey, do away with taxes and - MUTGR MU - 3/26 14:55:53
                                                       It is not changing the argument(nm) - meatiger MU - 3/26 14:56:45
                                        So you consider the two to be one and the same? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/26 14:41:09
                                             yes(nm) - meatiger MU - 3/26 14:41:58
                                                  Wow - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/26 14:44:20
                                                       Are you not paying more taxes - meatiger MU - 3/26 14:46:01
                                                            so you really cannot distinguish between individual tax - DesertTiger MU - 3/26 14:54:54
                                                                 lol no (nm) - pickle MU - 3/26 15:04:11
                                                                      thanks for the valuable input - DesertTiger MU - 3/26 15:29:24
                                                                 the average tax payment per person went UP - meatiger MU - 3/26 14:58:26
                                                                      as a percentage of income? - DesertTiger MU - 3/26 15:01:13
                                                                           taxes paid and tax rates - meatiger MU - 3/26 15:04:53
                                                                                not as individuals given the same income level - DesertTiger MU - 3/26 15:10:46
                                                                                     Most people's income goes up YOY (nm) - ashtray UF - 3/26 15:11:39
                                                                                          OK...? - DesertTiger MU - 3/26 15:18:50
                                                                                               the last statement if false - meatiger MU - 3/26 15:21:32
                                                                                                    my apologies....for the 1000th time - DesertTiger MU - 3/26 15:23:15
                                                                                                         Clearly income level did not stay the same. - meatiger MU - 3/26 15:34:09
                                                                                                              'It would appear' - DesertTiger MU - 3/26 15:40:15
                                                                                                                   I never talked about a "tax hike" - meatiger MU - 3/26 15:45:05
                                                                                                                        your claim was that - DesertTiger MU - 3/26 15:50:23
                                                                                                                             A tax hike is paying more in taxes - meatiger MU - 3/26 15:57:08
                                                                                                                                  so, to be clear, - DesertTiger MU - 3/26 16:02:04
                                                                                                                                       look at is on a mass basis - meatiger MU - 3/26 16:07:12
                                                                                                                                            but that still doesn't make sense - DesertTiger MU - 3/26 16:16:24
                                                                                                                                                 Why are you so focused on tax rates - meatiger MU - 3/26 16:20:34
                                                                                                                                                      because tax rates are how our income taxes are - DesertTiger MU - 3/26 16:31:01
                                                                                                                                                      It isn't necessarily a lie - ashtray UF - 3/26 16:22:53
                                                                                                                        too many think income tax is the only tax we pay (nm) - ashtray UF - 3/26 15:48:03
                                                                                                                             Really? Who are those people? - DesertTiger MU - 3/26 15:54:26
                                                                                                                                  tariffs are a tax - ashtray UF - 3/26 15:58:07
                                                                                                                                       who pays the tariffs? - DesertTiger MU - 3/26 16:05:27
                                                                                                                                            Who pays for corp taxes?(nm) - meatiger MU - 3/26 16:07:55
                                                                                                                                            The consumer does - ashtray UF - 3/26 16:07:20
                                                                                                                                                 no argument that new costs typically get - DesertTiger MU - 3/26 16:12:15
                                                                                                                                                      I don't have specific numbers - ashtray UF - 3/26 16:18:07
                                                                                                                                                      RE: no argument that new costs typically get - meatiger MU - 3/26 16:16:53
                                                                                                                                                           based on that article wouldn't 7 billion be more - DesertTiger MU - 3/26 16:22:21
                                                                                          And these are the people that claim to want smaller gov't - meatiger MU - 3/26 15:13:50
                                                                                               LOL, I'll take lower marginal income tax rates over higher - MUTGR MU - 3/26 16:17:48
                                                                                               smaller govt = bigger govt (nm) - ashtray UF - 3/26 15:14:38
                                                                      Do you have statistics for that?(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/26 14:59:06
                                                                           tax revenue increase from 3.27 trillion to 3.71 trillion - meatiger MU - 3/26 15:03:40
                                                                                wow - DesertTiger MU - 3/26 15:09:10
                                                                                     How does it not? - meatiger MU - 3/26 15:11:05
                                                                                          but that doesn't address the individual level - DesertTiger MU - 3/26 15:15:23
                                                                                               I never said everyone paid more taxes - meatiger MU - 3/26 15:19:41
                                                                                               If tax revenues go up, they didn't lower taxes enough - ashtray UF - 3/26 15:18:36
                                                                                                    which sheep? - meatiger MU - 3/26 15:20:22
                                                                                                    not a point of discussion in this thread... - DesertTiger MU - 3/26 15:19:53
                                                                                That does not answer the question meat - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/26 15:07:32
                                                                                     How does it not answer the question? - meatiger MU - 3/26 15:09:55
                                                            You never fail to disappoint meat - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/26 14:53:59
                                                            Which scenario would you prefer? Paying 28% taxes on $100k - TigerMatt - 3/26 14:53:53
                                                                 If we desire smaller government - meatiger MU - 3/26 14:55:58
                                                                      That is a great discussion - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/26 14:57:14
                                                                           you do the same thing all the time - meatiger MU - 3/26 14:59:53
                                                                                A tax increase is not the same as a tax decrease where - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/26 15:02:02
                                                                                     more tax revenue = more taxes - pickle MU - 3/26 15:13:17
                                                            RE: Are you not paying more taxes - MUTGR MU - 3/26 14:53:25
                                                                 You can't make it up - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/26 14:58:29
                                                                      RE: You can't make it up - MUTGR MU - 3/26 15:03:41
                                                                           No, he is saying most paid more - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/26 15:08:08
                                                                                I don't have that exact stat - meatiger MU - 3/26 15:12:06
                                        With that said...his run away spending - meatiger MU - 3/26 14:35:40
                                             The subject change. nm. - MUTGR MU - 3/26 14:54:18
               Just like the GOP is just like dems on the filibuster - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/26 14:28:03




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