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Do you have statistics for that?(nm)
Posted on: March 26, 2021 at 14:59:06 CT
4TigersinMichigan
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Never doubt dems lust for taxes
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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3/26 14:20:22
You pay your bills bippy boy. You seem put out that
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Floyd Turbo
99
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3/26 14:44:42
Totally agree. keep the government off my public
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KCMuskie
MU
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3/26 14:33:15
The issue is simply settle for how many times and ways
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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3/26 14:43:35
it is not only the Dems
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meatiger
MU
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3/26 14:26:08
Then you should have no problem coming up with several
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Spanky
KU
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3/26 14:27:08
Tax revenue increased under Trump
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meatiger
MU
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3/26 14:28:22
Income increased under Trump due to tax cuts
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Spanky
KU
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3/26 14:29:12
No (nm)
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pickle
MU
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3/26 15:18:01
Yes(nm)
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Spanky
KU
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3/26 16:57:10
taxes went up under him
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meatiger
MU
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3/26 14:30:09
tax rates went down, income went up
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Spanky
KU
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3/26 15:30:59
So higher taxes prevent growth of govt
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ashtray
UF
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3/26 15:32:15
higher taxes prevent growth of personal income(nm)
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Spanky
KU
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3/26 16:17:17
False
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ashtray
UF
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3/26 16:19:07
It grows more when tax rates are lower
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Spanky
KU
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3/26 16:31:34
Corporate earnings also grow regardless of tax rates
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ashtray
UF
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3/26 16:34:34
Earnings are not profit
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Spanky
KU
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3/26 17:54:14
You said "income" not profit
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ashtray
UF
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3/27 08:26:38
It actually can assuming you dont defect spend*
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tman
MU
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3/26 15:51:25
So why aren't Republicans trying to raise taxes?
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ashtray
UF
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3/26 15:55:36
hmmmm..you may be on to something
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meatiger
MU
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3/26 15:34:57
Tax revenue sent up. Tax rates went down(nm)
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tman
MU
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3/26 14:53:17
tariffs are a tax (nm)
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ashtray
UF
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3/26 15:06:39
Yep. Did the tariff rate increase impact you more the.
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tman
MU
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3/26 15:18:23
Yes. I buy a lot of imports (nm)
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ashtray
UF
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3/26 15:19:06
Are you an importer and exporter?
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meatiger
MU
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3/26 16:10:51
I just prefer quality products (nm)
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ashtray
UF
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3/26 16:11:56
I bet it went down on total for you. But ok(nm)
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tman
MU
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3/26 15:20:58
You would be wrong (nm)
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ashtray
UF
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3/26 15:21:26
It's the same thing
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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3/26 14:56:20
I can use his logic. End of the day I had more money
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tman
MU
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3/26 15:16:16
So if you work to expand the economy so more
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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3/26 14:32:12
It is an increase in tax revenue
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meatiger
MU
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3/26 14:34:03
People keep more of their money when you lower
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MUTGR
MU
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3/26 14:51:47
Spending and taxes were at record highs under Trump
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pickle
MU
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3/26 14:54:59
Tax revenue and spending. Overall rates went down
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tman
MU
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3/26 15:19:30
spending rates did not go down
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meatiger
MU
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3/26 15:23:02
Why does government NEED more money
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meatiger
MU
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3/26 14:54:29
Quit changing the arguments. Hey, do away with taxes and
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MUTGR
MU
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3/26 14:55:53
It is not changing the argument(nm)
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meatiger
MU
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3/26 14:56:45
So you consider the two to be one and the same?
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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3/26 14:41:09
yes(nm)
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meatiger
MU
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3/26 14:41:58
Wow
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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3/26 14:44:20
Are you not paying more taxes
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meatiger
MU
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3/26 14:46:01
so you really cannot distinguish between individual tax
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DesertTiger
MU
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3/26 14:54:54
lol no (nm)
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pickle
MU
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3/26 15:04:11
thanks for the valuable input
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DesertTiger
MU
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3/26 15:29:24
the average tax payment per person went UP
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meatiger
MU
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3/26 14:58:26
as a percentage of income?
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DesertTiger
MU
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3/26 15:01:13
taxes paid and tax rates
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meatiger
MU
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3/26 15:04:53
not as individuals given the same income level
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DesertTiger
MU
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3/26 15:10:46
Most people's income goes up YOY (nm)
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ashtray
UF
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3/26 15:11:39
OK...?
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DesertTiger
MU
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3/26 15:18:50
the last statement if false
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meatiger
MU
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3/26 15:21:32
my apologies....for the 1000th time
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DesertTiger
MU
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3/26 15:23:15
Clearly income level did not stay the same.
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meatiger
MU
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3/26 15:34:09
'It would appear'
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DesertTiger
MU
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3/26 15:40:15
I never talked about a "tax hike"
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meatiger
MU
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3/26 15:45:05
your claim was that
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DesertTiger
MU
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3/26 15:50:23
A tax hike is paying more in taxes
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meatiger
MU
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3/26 15:57:08
so, to be clear,
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DesertTiger
MU
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3/26 16:02:04
look at is on a mass basis
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meatiger
MU
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3/26 16:07:12
but that still doesn't make sense
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DesertTiger
MU
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3/26 16:16:24
Why are you so focused on tax rates
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meatiger
MU
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3/26 16:20:34
because tax rates are how our income taxes are
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DesertTiger
MU
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3/26 16:31:01
It isn't necessarily a lie
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ashtray
UF
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3/26 16:22:53
too many think income tax is the only tax we pay (nm)
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ashtray
UF
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3/26 15:48:03
Really? Who are those people?
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DesertTiger
MU
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3/26 15:54:26
tariffs are a tax
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ashtray
UF
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3/26 15:58:07
who pays the tariffs?
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DesertTiger
MU
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3/26 16:05:27
Who pays for corp taxes?(nm)
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meatiger
MU
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3/26 16:07:55
The consumer does
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ashtray
UF
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3/26 16:07:20
no argument that new costs typically get
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DesertTiger
MU
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3/26 16:12:15
I don't have specific numbers
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ashtray
UF
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3/26 16:18:07
RE: no argument that new costs typically get
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meatiger
MU
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3/26 16:16:53
based on that article wouldn't 7 billion be more
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DesertTiger
MU
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3/26 16:22:21
And these are the people that claim to want smaller gov't
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meatiger
MU
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3/26 15:13:50
LOL, I'll take lower marginal income tax rates over higher
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MUTGR
MU
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3/26 16:17:48
smaller govt = bigger govt (nm)
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ashtray
UF
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3/26 15:14:38
Do you have statistics for that?(nm)
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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3/26 14:59:06
tax revenue increase from 3.27 trillion to 3.71 trillion
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meatiger
MU
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3/26 15:03:40
wow
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DesertTiger
MU
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3/26 15:09:10
How does it not?
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meatiger
MU
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3/26 15:11:05
but that doesn't address the individual level
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DesertTiger
MU
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3/26 15:15:23
I never said everyone paid more taxes
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meatiger
MU
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3/26 15:19:41
If tax revenues go up, they didn't lower taxes enough
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ashtray
UF
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3/26 15:18:36
which sheep?
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meatiger
MU
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3/26 15:20:22
not a point of discussion in this thread...
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DesertTiger
MU
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3/26 15:19:53
That does not answer the question meat
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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3/26 15:07:32
How does it not answer the question?
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meatiger
MU
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3/26 15:09:55
You never fail to disappoint meat
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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3/26 14:53:59
Which scenario would you prefer? Paying 28% taxes on $100k
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TigerMatt
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3/26 14:53:53
If we desire smaller government
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meatiger
MU
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3/26 14:55:58
That is a great discussion
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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3/26 14:57:14
you do the same thing all the time
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meatiger
MU
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3/26 14:59:53
A tax increase is not the same as a tax decrease where
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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3/26 15:02:02
more tax revenue = more taxes
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pickle
MU
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3/26 15:13:17
RE: Are you not paying more taxes
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MUTGR
MU
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3/26 14:53:25
You can't make it up
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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3/26 14:58:29
RE: You can't make it up
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MUTGR
MU
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3/26 15:03:41
No, he is saying most paid more
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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3/26 15:08:08
I don't have that exact stat
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meatiger
MU
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3/26 15:12:06
With that said...his run away spending
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meatiger
MU
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3/26 14:35:40
The subject change. nm.
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MUTGR
MU
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3/26 14:54:18
Just like the GOP is just like dems on the filibuster
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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3/26 14:28:03