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Posted on: January 22, 2025 at 11:10:25 CT
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The courts have never ruled on this particular aspect of birthright citizenship. This EO will force the courts to define the parameters of the 14th Amend.
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So for birthright citzenship - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/22 10:44:20
     It is extremely simple. If you are in the US on the official - TigerMatt KC - 1/22 13:42:26
     Of course. How is he or she NOT subject to the jurisdiction - hokie VT - 1/22 11:36:43
          if it meant for anyone born here to be a citizen - pickle MU - 1/22 12:04:41
               RE: if it meant for anyone born here to be a citizen - *M* KC - 1/22 15:00:52
                    no ****? (nm) - pickle MU - 1/22 17:15:09
          Amending the Constitution would be the ideal route. But - DHighlander NWMSU - 1/22 11:44:33
               it isn't open to interpretation except by people - Seagull MU - 1/22 11:51:55
               If illegals are not under the jurisdiction of the US, that - hokie VT - 1/22 11:50:35
                    They do exactly that until identified and apprehended. - DHighlander NWMSU - 1/22 12:04:49
                         that has nothing to do with jurisdiction (nm) - Seagull MU - 1/22 12:16:30
                    It’s why they’re being deported - El-ahrairah BAMA - 1/22 11:54:52
                    that's exactly what it would mean (nm) - Seagull MU - 1/22 11:52:12
               Wrong. The EO includes legal aliens (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 1/22 11:46:59
          It doesn’t need rewriting - El-ahrairah BAMA - 1/22 11:44:16
          it wasn't poorly written (nm) - Seagull MU - 1/22 11:38:27
               It was passed to give citizenship to former slaves - mu7176grad MU - 1/22 11:46:44
                    exactly - FootballRefugee MU - 1/22 11:52:05
     Foreign diplomats are not subject to the jurisdiction - SparkyStalcup MU - 1/22 11:32:15
          So pedro's parents who don't speak english, have no - hokie VT - 1/22 11:39:10
               No, they are subject to US jurisdiction, so if Pedro was - SparkyStalcup MU - 1/22 13:14:37
               that's the claim of DHighlander and 4Tigs - Seagull MU - 1/22 11:40:02
                    Not even close to what I said. Diplomats are a special case - DHighlander NWMSU - 1/22 11:47:38
                         Bingo. 100% correct - SparkyStalcup MU - 1/22 13:17:18
                         but the claim illegal aliens are not subject to the - Seagull MU - 1/22 11:54:44
                              Any child of those unauthorized aliens, if born in the US, - SparkyStalcup MU - 1/22 13:18:47
          But the baby was not born in the French embassy - El-ahrairah BAMA - 1/22 11:38:37
     No (nm) - pickle MU - 1/22 11:19:15
     Be interesting to see what the courts decide. (nm) - ZouMiz STL - 1/22 10:58:07
          yes, overdue for modern and practical - FootballRefugee MU - 1/22 11:04:32
     End it and it will stop a lot of illegals - Bosalphus KC - 1/22 10:57:35
          Then you'll have to repeal the 14th, which I'm sure - SparkyStalcup MU - 1/22 13:20:46
          They will still come because of the economic opportunities - DHighlander NWMSU - 1/22 11:14:27
          I agree. It's a relic from the past we can't afford . - RHAYWORTH MU - 1/22 10:59:34
     RE: So for birthright citzenship - *M* KC - 1/22 10:54:03
          It doesn't appear that illegal aliens are subject to our jur - BH O'bonga MU - 1/22 11:10:42
               Wrong. They do not have diplomatic immunity, so they - SparkyStalcup MU - 1/22 13:22:23
               they are (nm) - Seagull MU - 1/22 11:12:56
                    So is that really the crux of this matter? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/22 11:15:02
                         you're asking what 'jurisdiction' means? (nm) - Seagull MU - 1/22 11:17:40
                              I am wonderinfg if the issue here is - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/22 11:18:54
                                   Are illegals subject to anything when the regime ignores - BH O'bonga MU - 1/22 11:47:08
                                   are you subject to the jurisdiction of Wisconsin? - Seagull MU - 1/22 11:20:04
                                        I live there, I am a legal citizen there - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/22 11:26:55
                                             I'm currently in Virginia, but I live in Maryland and am a - SparkyStalcup MU - 1/22 13:24:38
                                             I believe this is where the term anchor baby was coined(nm) - DollarSigns MU - 1/22 11:32:23
                                             so if you travel to New York, are you subject to their - Seagull MU - 1/22 11:27:43
                                                  Yes nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 1/22 13:26:02
          the exclusion can also apply - FootballRefugee MU - 1/22 11:00:44
               incorrect (nm) - Seagull MU - 1/22 11:01:22
          it also includes - Seagull MU - 1/22 10:57:24
               RE: it also includes - *M* KC - 1/22 10:58:46
     No - Spanky KU - 1/22 10:52:34
          RE: No - *M* KC - 1/22 10:55:17
               That was the proper definition of "subject to the - Spanky KU - 1/22 11:11:58
     if you can be arrested, you're subject to the jurisdiction - Seagull MU - 1/22 10:44:59
          incorrect - FootballRefugee MU - 1/22 11:03:43
               if they are not under US jurisdicition, then the US has no - Seagull MU - 1/22 11:05:53
                    Until someone is aware of their presence you are correct. - DHighlander NWMSU - 1/22 11:39:59
                         You're under the jursidiction of a country - DC Jayhawk KU - 1/22 12:52:41
                         you couldn't be more wrong - Seagull MU - 1/22 11:41:24
                    they can be detained - FootballRefugee MU - 1/22 11:07:24
                         they can be charged and convicted of a crime (nm) - Seagull MU - 1/22 11:12:39
          That is your opinion. That's the problem with the idiot and - DHighlander NWMSU - 1/22 10:54:08
               this from the idiot who says a thief is the de facto owner (nm) - pickle MU - 1/22 11:18:31
                    I don't think you know what de facto means. Not surprising - DHighlander NWMSU - 1/22 11:22:24
                         once again you double down on stupidity - pickle MU - 1/22 11:26:58
               lol what a dumb example (nm) - Columbian Gold MU - 1/22 11:00:00
                    No it's applies perfectly. Someone cannot be under your - DHighlander NWMSU - 1/22 11:05:06
                         false (nm) - Seagull MU - 1/22 11:06:12
               it's not opinion (nm) - Seagull MU - 1/22 10:56:40
                    I dont think that word means what you think it means Vizzini - DHighlander NWMSU - 1/22 11:06:46
                         no, I just think you're not intelligent enough to understand - Seagull MU - 1/22 11:07:20
                              I'm not the one stating personal opinion as fact. - DHighlander NWMSU - 1/22 11:10:25
                                   the courts agree with me - Seagull MU - 1/22 11:11:28
                                        The courts have never ruled on this aspect. It was not an - DHighlander NWMSU - 1/22 11:16:50
                                             wrong again - Seagull MU - 1/22 11:18:04
                                                  Does not address the aspect of legal versus illegal alien. - DHighlander NWMSU - 1/22 11:28:43
                                                       wrong again - Seagull MU - 1/22 11:37:15
          Nope - Spanky KU - 1/22 10:53:58
          OK - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/22 10:51:25
               RE: OK - Seagull MU - 1/22 10:56:09
                    Thanks(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/22 11:07:53




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