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People like to talk about how he won the MVC that year, but

Posted on: February 22, 2022 at 12:02:22 CT
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ignore the fact that he was upset in the valley tournament by Indiana State for their sole NCAA tournament appearance in the last 21 years.

Well he did win the regular season by one game, he had a worse overall record than Gregg Marshall and Wichita State and proceeded to take that supposedly excellent team and go 1-1 in the NIT.

Like it always does with him, it fell apart at the end
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CM's winning % at Mizzou is nearly 100 points lower - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/22 10:56:00
     He has never been at a school until now whose conference - alstl MU - 2/22 17:12:47
     Mizzou shares some culpability as an institution - the808bass MU - 2/22 15:29:52
     He took over Barry Henson's program, tanked it and left. - DiggerPhelps STL - 2/22 13:38:13
     all the more reason to find a better coach.(nm) - SuperTone MU - 2/22 13:27:06
     Nah. He got older, richer, lazier on the recruiting trail... - zounami MU - 2/22 11:51:12
          He seems to coach really hard in game to me - Eggs MU - 2/22 12:00:19
               haha, he's lost on game day. Zero coaches waste their - cal tiger MU - 2/22 12:17:46
               i think you mean to say "he makes coaching look really hard" - phrejd MU - 2/22 12:12:43
               You mean him shouting "Go, Go, Go" from the sideline?... - zounami MU - 2/22 12:02:29
     What's his longest tenure at other schools? - Eggs MU - 2/22 11:32:55
          in an apples-apples comparison of 3 year tenures: - phrejd MU - 2/22 11:39:14
               And can't blame KA for that - Eggs MU - 2/22 11:43:49
                    agreed. he either inherited a decent starting point or a - phrejd MU - 2/22 11:47:55
                         Robertson and Dru Smith were home run transfers - Eggs MU - 2/22 11:53:00
                         The Porter injury certainly plays a part - Mormad MU - 2/22 11:49:43
                              and i give him a pass on that. injuries happen and when your - phrejd MU - 2/22 11:52:21
                                   Agreed....it's a failure in consistent recruiting - Mormad MU - 2/22 11:53:49
                                        I think it's fairly obvious playing time has been a big part - Eggs MU - 2/22 11:58:08
                                             I'm guessing that he thought either Coleman, Davis or - Mormad MU - 2/22 12:08:04
                                                  I don't think he changes much at all in terms of record - Eggs MU - 2/22 12:16:05
                              Without MPJ in year one CM had a top half of the SEC roster - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/22 11:52:00
     uh no, CM has taught himself to be a below average - cal tiger MU - 2/22 11:16:04
     he needs to inherit a great team full of pros just to take - phrejd MU - 2/22 11:13:23
          Dude rebuilt and won a MO Valley title. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 2/22 11:21:29
               he inherited a SMSU team that had played in the postseason - phrejd MU - 2/22 11:30:38
                    he works it down to a level he can handle - cal tiger MU - 2/22 11:33:17
               He inherited his star player. And as noted below, he left - alwaysright MU - 2/22 11:29:18
                    People like to talk about how he won the MVC that year, but - alwaysright MU - 2/22 12:02:22
                    sms always has roster problems(nm) - TigerA MU - 2/22 11:30:04
                         Not true. Martin inherited 7 players that scored 53.1 ppg - alwaysright MU - 2/22 11:56:24
               a long time ago, and he left it in shambles - cal tiger MU - 2/22 11:25:29
     He inherited arguably the most challengin rebuild in history - FIJItiger MU - 2/22 11:02:33
          He had a good team that first year, not sure if the - KC rules MU - 2/22 11:23:15
               That example highlights how it was not rebuilt, not that it - FIJItiger MU - 2/22 11:36:52
                    Not rebuilt into a sustained winner but after the - KC rules MU - 2/22 12:26:52
                         I think it was a 4 yr rebuild, at a minimum and assuming - FIJItiger MU - 2/22 12:29:28
                    like i said earlier, statements like this make you look - phrejd MU - 2/22 11:42:00
                         Maybe those expressive dolls would help him - Mormad MU - 2/22 11:46:18
                              certainly needs something (nm) - phrejd MU - 2/22 11:48:17
                    That is not proof it was not rebuit, it is proof that he - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/22 11:40:43
                         If you feel MU was rebuilt following the 2017-18 season - FIJItiger MU - 2/22 11:42:33
                              Really? How many teams in the SEC had a better roster - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/22 11:47:51
                                   That isn't rebuilding a program, and certainly explains why - FIJItiger MU - 2/22 11:54:30
                                        WTF? Yes, rebuilding a program means bringing in quality - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/22 11:59:08
                                             MU was very far from being rebuilt at the end of 2017-18 (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 2/22 12:00:55
                                                  Scaffolding was there - Mormad MU - 2/22 12:11:14
                                   You're forgetting Dru - Mormad MU - 2/22 11:50:40
                                        Technically we picked up Dru before losing Geist he just had - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/22 11:55:59
               correct (nm) - phrejd MU - 2/22 11:34:32
               ^^ 100% Correct - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/22 11:28:48
                    That is a silly and completely false position (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 2/22 11:37:31
          Just stop with this asinine take. I makes you sound like an - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/22 11:22:42
               no ****, this program was a gift to a dufus like CM - cal tiger MU - 2/22 11:26:37
               Fighting ridiculous hyperbole with ridiculous hyperbole - haeffb MU - 2/22 11:26:01
                    Care to point out my hyperbole? Kim turned over a clean - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/22 11:37:39
                         RE: Care to point out my hyperbole? Kim turned over a clean - haeffb MU - 2/22 13:09:56
                              Has anyone ever taken over a team that had won less than - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/22 13:15:53
                                   It’s unlikely that any other coach - haeffb MU - 2/22 15:38:05
                         MU was on NCAA probation when Cuonzo was hired, and in - FIJItiger MU - 2/22 11:39:29
          that's not even remotely true - cal tiger MU - 2/22 11:18:31
               Only 1 time in history has a major or midmajor program - FIJItiger MU - 2/22 11:32:12
                    Kim took over a **** show with very little chance of - cal tiger MU - 2/22 12:13:25
                    worse coaches or equally as bad coaches have been hired - TigerA MU - 2/22 11:33:07
                         Disagree, not at a major program that at one point was - FIJItiger MU - 2/22 11:34:50
                              you previously said mid major now you just say major - TigerA MU - 2/22 11:38:24
                                   I don't follow midmajors closely, I'm sure some obscured - FIJItiger MU - 2/22 11:41:31
          Says the guy that never coached or managed a roster on - Jeff85 MU - 2/22 11:07:39
               lol (nm) - phrejd MU - 2/22 11:13:45
                    Are your feeling hurt - Jeff85 MU - 2/22 11:16:10
                         no i'm on your side here. i've coached little league soccer. - phrejd MU - 2/22 11:19:37
                              I was a high school coach for 30 years - Jeff85 MU - 2/22 11:21:05
                                   so what, he's paid 3 mil a year, step up and be a man - cal tiger MU - 2/22 11:28:19
                                        Not arguing he shouldn’t be fired - Jeff85 MU - 2/22 11:31:24
                                   i hate to break this to you but - phrejd MU - 2/22 11:23:46
                                        Hey! Not all of us coach gym, some are actual teachers(nm) - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/22 11:26:35
                                             That Health & Hygiene class - Mormad MU - 2/22 11:27:38
                                                  When is the last time you were in a HS locker room? It is - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/22 11:30:39
                                                       I try to avoid hanging out in high school locker rooms - Mormad MU - 2/22 11:32:44
                                                            Showing your age there. I have been teaching for 30+ - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/22 11:42:36
                                                                 Not in 'Merica territory - Mormad MU - 2/22 11:48:11
                                                       ^^^Richard Dalrymple^^^(nm) - cnk NWMSU - 2/22 11:31:41
                                        Ok, whatever you say - Jeff85 MU - 2/22 11:26:15
                                        damn(nm) - TigerA MU - 2/22 11:25:23
                                        Oh, now you've done it. He was MOLDING MEN - Mormad MU - 2/22 11:25:19
               Agree, I manage much more complicated things (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 2/22 11:11:48
                    Being an accountant is not the same - Jeff85 MU - 2/22 11:15:15
                         come on man, those spreadsheets are trying to beat - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/22 11:23:57
                              I'm not an accountant (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 2/22 11:28:41
                                   whatever you do, I highly doubt it is much more - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/22 11:31:12
          You're the master of hyperbole - Mormad MU - 2/22 11:05:55
               This was worse than the Baylor situation. Its not hyperbole - FIJItiger MU - 2/22 11:11:09
                    no way anything ever was as bad as baylor. - cal tiger MU - 2/22 11:22:07
                         Teammates murdering one another, coaches covering up - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/22 11:25:47
                    Horse. Shlt. - alwaysright MU - 2/22 11:21:03
                    this particular schtick is dumb and you undermine - phrejd MU - 2/22 11:15:31
                         I will continue to do so, because it is true (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 2/22 11:17:50
                              It is absolutely not true - Mormad MU - 2/22 11:20:58
                              i know you will, but we all know that's not why (nm) - phrejd MU - 2/22 11:20:24
                                   First of all, Baylor already sucked when that happened - FIJItiger MU - 2/22 11:27:50
                                        i'm not reading that. you should seek the help you need (nm) - phrejd MU - 2/22 11:49:38
                                        Right, Dennehy and Dotson’s production was easy to replace (nm) - haeffb MU - 2/22 11:30:12
                                        Like we aren't obscure? - Mormad MU - 2/22 11:29:09
                                             We weren't then, now we are (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 2/22 11:30:43
     His recruiting is significantly worse at Mizzou - Tiger Strangiato MU - 2/22 11:01:12
     Of course MU is part of the problem - Jeff85 MU - 2/22 10:59:50
     this doesn't make sense to me at all(nm) - TigerA MU - 2/22 10:57:14




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