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in an apples-apples comparison of 3 year tenures:

Posted on: February 22, 2022 at 11:39:14 CT
phrejd STL
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smsu - .598
tenn - .606
cal - .614
MU (first 3 years) - .521

he's down to .510 at MU now and has been trending downward ever since his 1st year.
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CM's winning % at Mizzou is nearly 100 points lower - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/22 10:56:00
     He has never been at a school until now whose conference - alstl MU - 2/22 17:12:47
     Mizzou shares some culpability as an institution - the808bass MU - 2/22 15:29:52
     He took over Barry Henson's program, tanked it and left. - DiggerPhelps STL - 2/22 13:38:13
     all the more reason to find a better coach.(nm) - SuperTone MU - 2/22 13:27:06
     Nah. He got older, richer, lazier on the recruiting trail... - zounami MU - 2/22 11:51:12
          He seems to coach really hard in game to me - Eggs MU - 2/22 12:00:19
               haha, he's lost on game day. Zero coaches waste their - cal tiger MU - 2/22 12:17:46
               i think you mean to say "he makes coaching look really hard" - phrejd MU - 2/22 12:12:43
               You mean him shouting "Go, Go, Go" from the sideline?... - zounami MU - 2/22 12:02:29
     What's his longest tenure at other schools? - Eggs MU - 2/22 11:32:55
          in an apples-apples comparison of 3 year tenures: - phrejd MU - 2/22 11:39:14
               And can't blame KA for that - Eggs MU - 2/22 11:43:49
                    agreed. he either inherited a decent starting point or a - phrejd MU - 2/22 11:47:55
                         Robertson and Dru Smith were home run transfers - Eggs MU - 2/22 11:53:00
                         The Porter injury certainly plays a part - Mormad MU - 2/22 11:49:43
                              and i give him a pass on that. injuries happen and when your - phrejd MU - 2/22 11:52:21
                                   Agreed....it's a failure in consistent recruiting - Mormad MU - 2/22 11:53:49
                                        I think it's fairly obvious playing time has been a big part - Eggs MU - 2/22 11:58:08
                                             I'm guessing that he thought either Coleman, Davis or - Mormad MU - 2/22 12:08:04
                                                  I don't think he changes much at all in terms of record - Eggs MU - 2/22 12:16:05
                              Without MPJ in year one CM had a top half of the SEC roster - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/22 11:52:00
     uh no, CM has taught himself to be a below average - cal tiger MU - 2/22 11:16:04
     he needs to inherit a great team full of pros just to take - phrejd MU - 2/22 11:13:23
          Dude rebuilt and won a MO Valley title. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 2/22 11:21:29
               he inherited a SMSU team that had played in the postseason - phrejd MU - 2/22 11:30:38
                    he works it down to a level he can handle - cal tiger MU - 2/22 11:33:17
               He inherited his star player. And as noted below, he left - alwaysright MU - 2/22 11:29:18
                    People like to talk about how he won the MVC that year, but - alwaysright MU - 2/22 12:02:22
                    sms always has roster problems(nm) - TigerA MU - 2/22 11:30:04
                         Not true. Martin inherited 7 players that scored 53.1 ppg - alwaysright MU - 2/22 11:56:24
               a long time ago, and he left it in shambles - cal tiger MU - 2/22 11:25:29
     He inherited arguably the most challengin rebuild in history - FIJItiger MU - 2/22 11:02:33
          He had a good team that first year, not sure if the - KC rules MU - 2/22 11:23:15
               That example highlights how it was not rebuilt, not that it - FIJItiger MU - 2/22 11:36:52
                    Not rebuilt into a sustained winner but after the - KC rules MU - 2/22 12:26:52
                         I think it was a 4 yr rebuild, at a minimum and assuming - FIJItiger MU - 2/22 12:29:28
                    like i said earlier, statements like this make you look - phrejd MU - 2/22 11:42:00
                         Maybe those expressive dolls would help him - Mormad MU - 2/22 11:46:18
                              certainly needs something (nm) - phrejd MU - 2/22 11:48:17
                    That is not proof it was not rebuit, it is proof that he - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/22 11:40:43
                         If you feel MU was rebuilt following the 2017-18 season - FIJItiger MU - 2/22 11:42:33
                              Really? How many teams in the SEC had a better roster - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/22 11:47:51
                                   That isn't rebuilding a program, and certainly explains why - FIJItiger MU - 2/22 11:54:30
                                        WTF? Yes, rebuilding a program means bringing in quality - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/22 11:59:08
                                             MU was very far from being rebuilt at the end of 2017-18 (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 2/22 12:00:55
                                                  Scaffolding was there - Mormad MU - 2/22 12:11:14
                                   You're forgetting Dru - Mormad MU - 2/22 11:50:40
                                        Technically we picked up Dru before losing Geist he just had - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/22 11:55:59
               correct (nm) - phrejd MU - 2/22 11:34:32
               ^^ 100% Correct - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/22 11:28:48
                    That is a silly and completely false position (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 2/22 11:37:31
          Just stop with this asinine take. I makes you sound like an - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/22 11:22:42
               no ****, this program was a gift to a dufus like CM - cal tiger MU - 2/22 11:26:37
               Fighting ridiculous hyperbole with ridiculous hyperbole - haeffb MU - 2/22 11:26:01
                    Care to point out my hyperbole? Kim turned over a clean - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/22 11:37:39
                         RE: Care to point out my hyperbole? Kim turned over a clean - haeffb MU - 2/22 13:09:56
                              Has anyone ever taken over a team that had won less than - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/22 13:15:53
                                   It’s unlikely that any other coach - haeffb MU - 2/22 15:38:05
                         MU was on NCAA probation when Cuonzo was hired, and in - FIJItiger MU - 2/22 11:39:29
          that's not even remotely true - cal tiger MU - 2/22 11:18:31
               Only 1 time in history has a major or midmajor program - FIJItiger MU - 2/22 11:32:12
                    Kim took over a **** show with very little chance of - cal tiger MU - 2/22 12:13:25
                    worse coaches or equally as bad coaches have been hired - TigerA MU - 2/22 11:33:07
                         Disagree, not at a major program that at one point was - FIJItiger MU - 2/22 11:34:50
                              you previously said mid major now you just say major - TigerA MU - 2/22 11:38:24
                                   I don't follow midmajors closely, I'm sure some obscured - FIJItiger MU - 2/22 11:41:31
          Says the guy that never coached or managed a roster on - Jeff85 MU - 2/22 11:07:39
               lol (nm) - phrejd MU - 2/22 11:13:45
                    Are your feeling hurt - Jeff85 MU - 2/22 11:16:10
                         no i'm on your side here. i've coached little league soccer. - phrejd MU - 2/22 11:19:37
                              I was a high school coach for 30 years - Jeff85 MU - 2/22 11:21:05
                                   so what, he's paid 3 mil a year, step up and be a man - cal tiger MU - 2/22 11:28:19
                                        Not arguing he shouldn’t be fired - Jeff85 MU - 2/22 11:31:24
                                   i hate to break this to you but - phrejd MU - 2/22 11:23:46
                                        Hey! Not all of us coach gym, some are actual teachers(nm) - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/22 11:26:35
                                             That Health & Hygiene class - Mormad MU - 2/22 11:27:38
                                                  When is the last time you were in a HS locker room? It is - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/22 11:30:39
                                                       I try to avoid hanging out in high school locker rooms - Mormad MU - 2/22 11:32:44
                                                            Showing your age there. I have been teaching for 30+ - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/22 11:42:36
                                                                 Not in 'Merica territory - Mormad MU - 2/22 11:48:11
                                                       ^^^Richard Dalrymple^^^(nm) - cnk NWMSU - 2/22 11:31:41
                                        Ok, whatever you say - Jeff85 MU - 2/22 11:26:15
                                        damn(nm) - TigerA MU - 2/22 11:25:23
                                        Oh, now you've done it. He was MOLDING MEN - Mormad MU - 2/22 11:25:19
               Agree, I manage much more complicated things (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 2/22 11:11:48
                    Being an accountant is not the same - Jeff85 MU - 2/22 11:15:15
                         come on man, those spreadsheets are trying to beat - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/22 11:23:57
                              I'm not an accountant (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 2/22 11:28:41
                                   whatever you do, I highly doubt it is much more - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/22 11:31:12
          You're the master of hyperbole - Mormad MU - 2/22 11:05:55
               This was worse than the Baylor situation. Its not hyperbole - FIJItiger MU - 2/22 11:11:09
                    no way anything ever was as bad as baylor. - cal tiger MU - 2/22 11:22:07
                         Teammates murdering one another, coaches covering up - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/22 11:25:47
                    Horse. Shlt. - alwaysright MU - 2/22 11:21:03
                    this particular schtick is dumb and you undermine - phrejd MU - 2/22 11:15:31
                         I will continue to do so, because it is true (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 2/22 11:17:50
                              It is absolutely not true - Mormad MU - 2/22 11:20:58
                              i know you will, but we all know that's not why (nm) - phrejd MU - 2/22 11:20:24
                                   First of all, Baylor already sucked when that happened - FIJItiger MU - 2/22 11:27:50
                                        i'm not reading that. you should seek the help you need (nm) - phrejd MU - 2/22 11:49:38
                                        Right, Dennehy and Dotson’s production was easy to replace (nm) - haeffb MU - 2/22 11:30:12
                                        Like we aren't obscure? - Mormad MU - 2/22 11:29:09
                                             We weren't then, now we are (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 2/22 11:30:43
     His recruiting is significantly worse at Mizzou - Tiger Strangiato MU - 2/22 11:01:12
     Of course MU is part of the problem - Jeff85 MU - 2/22 10:59:50
     this doesn't make sense to me at all(nm) - TigerA MU - 2/22 10:57:14




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