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Dude this is the exact minnesota law right here
Posted on: June 4, 2020 at 11:00:36 CT
Calca
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https://statelaws.findlaw.com/minnesota-law/minnesota-second-degree-murder.html#:~:text=Minnesota%20law%20prohibits%20intentional%20and,attempting%20a%20drive%2Dby%20shooting
In this case Killing a human intentionally, but without premeditation (not thinking about or preparing for before), is what the state would have to prove.
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has it been discussed that the autopsy report of Floyd
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blake1771
MU
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6/4 10:36:43
The fact that 6'6" Floyd went into full wrestling match
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RayKinsella1922
SEC
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6/4 11:35:11
Can they charge him for multiple levels of the same type of
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JeffB
MU
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6/4 11:33:03
Sometimes when you do the wrong thing, you suffer for it
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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6/4 10:58:42
Why are you trying to throw gas on this fire?
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JayRoy
KC
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6/4 10:53:21
The heros of the left are criminals, drug users and
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hokie
VT
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6/4 10:47:53
There it is
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meatiger
MU
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6/4 10:55:59
I neither said, suggested, implied or insinuated that. But
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hokie
VT
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6/4 11:01:05
“This guy had been arrested multiple times.” (nm)
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pickle
MU
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6/4 11:21:52
To hokie, black = bad.
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markymarksthirdnipple
STL
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6/4 10:57:56
you're a complete fcking idiot (nm)
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ashtray
UF
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6/4 10:50:42
you are so far gone, you’re hopeless (nm)
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pickle
MU
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6/4 10:48:30
Floyd was not going to die at that moment from any of that
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Spanky
KU
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6/4 10:46:53
show me the medical proof that he was not going to die
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blake1771
MU
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6/4 10:50:05
I guess the cop should have removed his knee while
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ashtray
UF
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6/4 10:51:56
Chauvin assaulted him. Show me the medical proof Floyd
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blake1771
MU
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6/4 10:57:12
I didn't mean to imply you are defending Chauvin
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ashtray
UF
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6/4 11:01:14
I know of precisely ZERO law enforcement officers who
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blake1771
MU
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6/4 11:06:56
at least none that would admit it (nm)
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ashtray
UF
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6/4 11:08:01
But how much did it contribute?
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Calca
STL
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6/4 10:49:55
Hell, I’m curious to see where this China virus diagnosis
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MIZ45
MU
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6/4 10:43:37
if they can find several experts that can testify that GF
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tigerinhogtown
STL
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6/4 10:42:47
Murder 3 and manslaughter is a slam dunk conviction
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Calca
STL
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6/4 10:43:27
he's charged with murder 3 and 2nd degree manslaughter
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gmmm98
MU
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6/4 10:52:26
I heard they upped it to murder 2 yesterday, that wrong?(nm)
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tigerinhogtown
STL
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6/4 10:54:54
yes. that is the alternative part of "in the alternative"(nm)
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gmmm98
MU
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6/4 10:59:37
he's charged with 2nd degree murder, not 2nd degree manslaug
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tigerinhogtown
STL
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6/4 11:21:38
he's charged with 1) second degree murder; 2) third degree
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gmmm98
MU
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6/4 11:57:32
They did
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Calca
STL
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6/4 10:55:49
you are correct (nm)
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ashtray
UF
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6/4 10:55:32
agreed.
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blake1771
MU
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6/4 10:44:24
I don't think the "coincidence defense" is going to win the
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ummmm
MU
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6/4 10:41:01
It'll hurt an attempt at a murder 2 conviction
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Calca
STL
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6/4 10:41:52
Why? Isn't the difference between murder 2 and 3 state of
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ummmm
MU
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6/4 10:43:17
Yes, mind of the defendant
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Calca
STL
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6/4 10:44:09
that's wrong
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gmmm98
MU
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6/4 10:50:19
Intent to kill is necessary as the legal definition
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Calca
STL
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6/4 10:53:08
i don't know how to tell you ben shapiro is wrong
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gmmm98
MU
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6/4 10:58:06
Dude this is the exact minnesota law right here
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Calca
STL
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6/4 11:00:36
i think what you're missing on the charge is the felony
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blake1771
MU
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6/4 11:23:18
He's been charged with Second Degree UNINTENTIONAL
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ummmm
MU
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6/4 11:05:42
i'm not sure if you're trolling or stupid
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gmmm98
MU
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6/4 11:02:52
The unintentional subdivision is only for other felonies
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Calca
STL
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6/4 11:09:32
RE: The unintentional subdivision is only for felony murders
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gmmm98
MU
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6/4 11:13:59
RE: The unintentional subdivision is only for felony murders
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Calca
STL
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6/4 11:50:13
That's what he has been charged with.
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ummmm
MU
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6/4 11:10:24
I meant felony assault
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Calca
STL
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6/4 11:22:09
Did you mean that? Because this is the first time in 8
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ummmm
MU
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6/4 11:26:38
Again, the prosecution also has to prove that the cop
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Calca
STL
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6/4 11:35:58
I've posted the Minnesota statute below to help him:
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ummmm
MU
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6/4 11:00:16
The OP about drugs in Floyd's system doesn't bear on state
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ummmm
MU
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6/4 10:45:45
Lawyer will argue otherwise
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Calca
STL
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6/4 10:48:16
You're still talking about the causation element, not the
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ummmm
MU
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6/4 10:51:40
yes there are two different avenuse on the defense. 1. there
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blake1771
MU
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6/4 11:02:32
RE: yes there are two different avenuse on the defense. 1. there
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ummmm
MU
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6/4 11:07:10
my point being is that was the heart attack coincidental??
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blake1771
MU
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6/4 11:13:23
"I can't breathe" will gut this defense.
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ummmm
MU
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6/4 11:15:39
1. isn't a defense. intent to commit assault 3rd is(nm)
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gmmm98
MU
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6/4 11:05:06
I'm talking the state of mind of the cop not the victim
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Calca
STL
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6/4 10:54:21
The cop is the defendant... (nm)
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ummmm
MU
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6/4 10:55:10
Caught the mistake before you typed
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Calca
STL
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6/4 10:56:28
Oh, you edited to "victim". The state of mind of the victim
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ummmm
MU
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6/4 10:56:14
Yes I know
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Calca
STL
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6/4 10:57:04
Now that we are talking about state of mind, the state
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ummmm
MU
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6/4 10:59:42
eggshell skull doctrine (nm)
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TigerJackSwartz
MU
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6/4 10:38:11
all of it is irrelevant (nm)
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pickle
MU
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6/4 10:37:46
it's 100% relevant and to argue otherwise is idiotic. it's
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blake1771
MU
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6/4 10:38:46
Did he die of artherosclerosis?(nm)
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DC Jayhawk
KU
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6/4 10:44:22
he died of a heart attack so the portion I included about
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blake1771
MU
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6/4 10:44:48
The heart attack is listed as this in the report:
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DC Jayhawk
KU
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6/4 11:16:05
nowhere in the report does it say there was a heat attack
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blake1771
MU
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6/4 11:20:56
That's literally listed at the top of the report.
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DC Jayhawk
KU
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6/4 11:23:08
a cop KNELT on his neck for 8+ minutes
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pickle
MU
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6/4 10:40:34
i could kneel on your neck for hours and not kill you.
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blake1771
MU
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6/4 10:43:01
Just join the klan..
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ivan drago
MU
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6/4 10:48:19
Get out of here with this nonsense. Blake is respectfully
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ummmm
MU
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6/4 10:52:29
No he is not..
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ivan drago
MU
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6/4 10:58:36
so asking for evidence that the pressure on his neck is
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blake1771
MU
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6/4 11:05:02
It's a disputed issue, and this is why trials exist.
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ummmm
MU
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6/4 11:04:20
You could shoot someone in the head and not kill them too.(nm)
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ummmm
MU
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6/4 10:48:15
yes and that would be assault. also i dont know that I would
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blake1771
MU
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6/4 10:59:27
But what if the person died from gunshot? Still assault? (nm)
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ummmm
MU
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6/4 11:03:50
a more accurate comparison would be if I shot you in
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blake1771
MU
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6/4 11:18:14
You might roll out the coincidence defense there too, but I
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ummmm
MU
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6/4 11:27:31
it will be almost impossible for him to get a fair trial so
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blake1771
MU
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6/4 11:34:53
lol you are missing the point (nm)
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pickle
MU
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6/4 10:47:16
Also, they accosted him to start the interactions. (nm)
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ummmm
MU
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6/4 10:41:47
over a non-violent action (nm)
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pickle
MU
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6/4 10:42:16
Cop needs to go to jail
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Calca
STL
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6/4 10:41:18
It is irrelevant. All of it. (nm)
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pickle
MU
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6/4 10:39:29
His lawyer won't think so
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Calca
STL
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6/4 10:40:41