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Well suffice to say IMHO

Posted on: August 31, 2019 at 10:03:57 CT
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there are a lot of people wounded by their upbringing, religious or otherwise. A kid gets slapped by a nun and Catholicism sucks and is totally invalid because of what they experienced. Thats not fair really.

I have no idea of what you were taught as a young devout S. Baptist. All I know is that a sola scripture approach is again, IMHO, short sighted, incomplete, and many times dangerous. If they take the Bible literally then....

I mean:
Matthew 18:8 - 9. NKJV - 8 If your hand or foot causes you to sin, cut it off and cast it from you. It is better for you to enter into life lame or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet, to be cast into the everlasting fire. 9 And if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and cast it from you.

Like I said what the Bible means is true, avoid whatever makes you sin. Duh. Hell If I was brought up with that literal kind of faith I'd be on my way to hell, cause I don't like handling snakes and I can't see me drinking draino to show I have faith. Faith and reason should be and were for hundreds of years very much related. It got out of balance on one hand with the reformation throwing out reason and the enlightenment throwing out faith. The balance was gone.

To answer as to whether or not God asks, I'd say a resounding yup.
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Nm - TigerMatt STL - 8/31 01:07:59
     One needs to understand the Bible is a long series of tales - raskolnikov MU - 8/31 09:31:41
          And yeah, the Bible is a great piece of literature. One - TigerMatt STL - 8/31 12:22:20
          I have Hayes' textbook. It serves as a good intro, but I - TigerMatt STL - 8/31 09:37:27
               RE: I have Hayes' textbook. It serves as a good intro, but I - raskolnikov MU - 8/31 09:50:50
     Matt,you force me into being redundant - Macgrantt MU - 8/31 09:16:06
          Nm - TigerMatt STL - 8/31 09:29:43
               Your repetition on the subject has shaken my faith. I’m - Emoji Man MSU - 8/31 09:38:48
                    I am as worried about that as you are Allah casting you into - TigerMatt STL - 8/31 10:07:13
                    RE: Your repetition on the subject has shaken my faith. I’m - raskolnikov MU - 8/31 09:51:57
                         I think for one to go out of their way to plant the seed of - Emoji Man MSU - 8/31 10:00:50
                              RE: I think for one to go out of their way to plant the seed of - raskolnikov MU - 8/31 10:33:51
                                   The Document Hypothesis.. etiological stories of creation - TigerMatt STL - 8/31 10:44:45
                                        RE: The Document Hypothesis.. etiological stories of creation - raskolnikov MU - 8/31 11:11:18
                              Keep your crap to yourself. - Toger STL - 8/31 10:10:27
                    Now E, both of us know - Macgrantt MU - 8/31 09:42:55
                         Never an alter boy. Way too much of a trouble maker. I got - Emoji Man MSU - 8/31 10:15:33
                              I know you look down your nose at my Crown Black - Macgrantt MU - 8/31 11:26:32
                              I thought Canadian whiskey was for teens that didnt know - TigerMatt STL - 8/31 10:20:34
                    Here come da judge, here come da judge.(nm) - Toger STL - 8/31 09:42:19
               I'm well aware of your animosity toward that hypocrite - Macgrantt MU - 8/31 09:38:14
     you don't have be a retard about. just simply - dangertim MU - 8/31 09:05:21
          Yeah.. and that gets dismissed because he was a prophet so - TigerMatt STL - 8/31 09:10:49
               Important to see that the Exodus story never happened - raskolnikov MU - 8/31 09:48:37
     Do the differences you note materially change the story? - DHighlander NWMSU - 8/31 08:56:03
          Nm - TigerMatt STL - 8/31 09:01:45
     That settles it. There is no God - Nohawks MU - 8/31 08:40:17
          Nm - TigerMatt STL - 8/31 08:48:19
               OK. To paraphrase Chesterton - Nohawks MU - 8/31 09:01:55
                    I've had decades of "teaching". Now I am more interested - TigerMatt STL - 8/31 09:05:13
                         Not a thing wrong with that - Nohawks MU - 8/31 09:07:49
                              He generally fails at context - Spanky KU - 8/31 10:15:18
                                   That's generally the case with hyper critics - Nohawks MU - 8/31 10:46:34
                                        I'd say it is more in line with theological interpreters who - TigerMatt STL - 8/31 10:52:11
                                             And that changes context... how? - Spanky KU - 8/31 11:40:02
                                                  Nm - TigerMatt STL - 8/31 12:23:49
                                                       Chronicles was written long after the crucifixion as a - Spanky KU - 8/31 14:20:44
                                                            1 Chronicles was written around 300 BCE. Several - TigerMatt STL - 8/31 14:42:39
                                             A couple of things - Nohawks MU - 8/31 11:35:37
                                   Yeah and we still know Amalek so he hadn't been blotted - TigerMatt STL - 8/31 10:23:02
               Did you know the Virgin Mary was said to be 12-14 yr. old. - Toger STL - 8/31 08:53:06
          There may be but why did God psychologically rape and - Toger STL - 8/31 08:44:21
               With all the prophecies written down for centuries.. and - TigerMatt STL - 8/31 08:57:38
               No doesn't mean no when she says - Nohawks MU - 8/31 08:51:29
                    How could a little girl really say no to God?(nm) - Toger STL - 8/31 08:54:39
                         So are you saying as a post enlightenment kinda guy - Nohawks MU - 8/31 09:03:41
                              Who does? - Toger STL - 8/31 09:05:58
                                   But its about us. Our free will - not Gods - Nohawks MU - 8/31 09:10:56
                                        Yes.. BUT God would have known she could handle it - TigerMatt STL - 8/31 10:54:27
                                             Possible however bottom line - Nohawks MU - 8/31 11:25:54
                                        12 yr old having free will to become pregnant. - Toger STL - 8/31 09:18:29
                                             A 12 year old (no we really don't know her age) - Nohawks MU - 8/31 09:27:21
                                                  So you believe God asks. - Toger STL - 8/31 09:40:58
                                                       Well suffice to say IMHO - Nohawks MU - 8/31 10:03:57
                                                            I was honestly taught by my mother that catholics are bad. - Toger STL - 8/31 10:14:06
                                                                 LOL. Well the Catholic Church is a mess right now - Nohawks MU - 8/31 10:50:16
                                                  I can't say that I care about Mary's age. It was a far - TigerMatt STL - 8/31 09:32:58
                                                       Agreed. Cultural factors in play (nm) - Nohawks MU - 8/31 09:50:44
                                                            Which makes the Bible, IMO, the most magnificent work - TigerMatt STL - 8/31 10:48:49
     ***Footnote: This is for the death fetishizing MizzouTigerz - TigerMatt STL - 8/31 01:32:44




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