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Matt,you force me into being redundant

Posted on: August 31, 2019 at 09:16:06 CT
Macgrantt MU
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Presently, you are placed on Earth, one small planet in a solar system in a galaxy. There are 100,000,000,000 observable galaxies. The universe is unimaginably immense, yet YOU know standing here on a spec that there is no God creator. You can scan the universe?

When you understand microbiology, you see that the creation of a single protein is extremely mechanical. There's a delineated process within the cell as parts are transported as if on a factory assembly line, RNA and DNA are encoded and decoded and the process is both complex and magical. This is just for a single protein. When you consider what has to happen to produce a healthy baby, again the chemical reactions, the sequencing, it would be a leap of faith to even consider this is random. The same goes for how the body can be in homeostasis.

You seem to struggle with the possibility there can be a Sovereign God/creator. An entity that if it chooses to have something look 6 billions years old, can do so. A being that can have a man be inside a fish for 3 days, a being that can create life and resurrect from the dead.Everyone has beliefs and to not believe is a belief.

You frequently post about Old Testament rules and I redundantly explained that those rules were intended for the Isrealites at that time to follow to bring their people forward to produce the Messiah. The Old Testamnet was prophecy, the New, prophecy fullfilled. With Christ came a new convenant was produced, and the rule following changed as Christianity offered a grace based theology. It's not what you have to do to get to Christ, it's what he's done to get to you. We are all sinners in need of grace and a believer is so grateful for this gift, that a true believer reorganizes his life. You forgive as you have been forgiven because of your gratitude.

Though there is wisdom in the Bible, it's not intended as a book of advice, it's the story of Jesus.

Something happened thousands of years ago. People who denied him, were ready and willing to be tortured and die for Him after the resurrection. My experience is people recant once the torture begins, these people didn't. Something shook their very foundation and the church has exploded ever since.

A Christian isn't judgemental and hates people because their sin behavior is different tha their own, You take the 2X4 out of your own eye before you are concerned with the splinter in another's.

There's much hypocricy as people in life and here are judgemental and hate filled.One poster who seems to champion Christianity calls for the eradication of people t his left. I am no different and have combatted my earlier training which often makes me react aggressively,, but we are all in a process of sanctification.

Is this so hard to believe?

Edited by Macgrantt at 09:16:25 on 08/31/19
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Nm - TigerMatt STL - 8/31 01:07:59
     One needs to understand the Bible is a long series of tales - raskolnikov MU - 8/31 09:31:41
          And yeah, the Bible is a great piece of literature. One - TigerMatt STL - 8/31 12:22:20
          I have Hayes' textbook. It serves as a good intro, but I - TigerMatt STL - 8/31 09:37:27
               RE: I have Hayes' textbook. It serves as a good intro, but I - raskolnikov MU - 8/31 09:50:50
     Matt,you force me into being redundant - Macgrantt MU - 8/31 09:16:06
          Nm - TigerMatt STL - 8/31 09:29:43
               Your repetition on the subject has shaken my faith. I’m - Emoji Man MSU - 8/31 09:38:48
                    I am as worried about that as you are Allah casting you into - TigerMatt STL - 8/31 10:07:13
                    RE: Your repetition on the subject has shaken my faith. I’m - raskolnikov MU - 8/31 09:51:57
                         I think for one to go out of their way to plant the seed of - Emoji Man MSU - 8/31 10:00:50
                              RE: I think for one to go out of their way to plant the seed of - raskolnikov MU - 8/31 10:33:51
                                   The Document Hypothesis.. etiological stories of creation - TigerMatt STL - 8/31 10:44:45
                                        RE: The Document Hypothesis.. etiological stories of creation - raskolnikov MU - 8/31 11:11:18
                              Keep your crap to yourself. - Toger STL - 8/31 10:10:27
                    Now E, both of us know - Macgrantt MU - 8/31 09:42:55
                         Never an alter boy. Way too much of a trouble maker. I got - Emoji Man MSU - 8/31 10:15:33
                              I know you look down your nose at my Crown Black - Macgrantt MU - 8/31 11:26:32
                              I thought Canadian whiskey was for teens that didnt know - TigerMatt STL - 8/31 10:20:34
                    Here come da judge, here come da judge.(nm) - Toger STL - 8/31 09:42:19
               I'm well aware of your animosity toward that hypocrite - Macgrantt MU - 8/31 09:38:14
     you don't have be a retard about. just simply - dangertim MU - 8/31 09:05:21
          Yeah.. and that gets dismissed because he was a prophet so - TigerMatt STL - 8/31 09:10:49
               Important to see that the Exodus story never happened - raskolnikov MU - 8/31 09:48:37
     Do the differences you note materially change the story? - DHighlander NWMSU - 8/31 08:56:03
          Nm - TigerMatt STL - 8/31 09:01:45
     That settles it. There is no God - Nohawks MU - 8/31 08:40:17
          Nm - TigerMatt STL - 8/31 08:48:19
               OK. To paraphrase Chesterton - Nohawks MU - 8/31 09:01:55
                    I've had decades of "teaching". Now I am more interested - TigerMatt STL - 8/31 09:05:13
                         Not a thing wrong with that - Nohawks MU - 8/31 09:07:49
                              He generally fails at context - Spanky KU - 8/31 10:15:18
                                   That's generally the case with hyper critics - Nohawks MU - 8/31 10:46:34
                                        I'd say it is more in line with theological interpreters who - TigerMatt STL - 8/31 10:52:11
                                             And that changes context... how? - Spanky KU - 8/31 11:40:02
                                                  Nm - TigerMatt STL - 8/31 12:23:49
                                                       Chronicles was written long after the crucifixion as a - Spanky KU - 8/31 14:20:44
                                                            1 Chronicles was written around 300 BCE. Several - TigerMatt STL - 8/31 14:42:39
                                             A couple of things - Nohawks MU - 8/31 11:35:37
                                   Yeah and we still know Amalek so he hadn't been blotted - TigerMatt STL - 8/31 10:23:02
               Did you know the Virgin Mary was said to be 12-14 yr. old. - Toger STL - 8/31 08:53:06
          There may be but why did God psychologically rape and - Toger STL - 8/31 08:44:21
               With all the prophecies written down for centuries.. and - TigerMatt STL - 8/31 08:57:38
               No doesn't mean no when she says - Nohawks MU - 8/31 08:51:29
                    How could a little girl really say no to God?(nm) - Toger STL - 8/31 08:54:39
                         So are you saying as a post enlightenment kinda guy - Nohawks MU - 8/31 09:03:41
                              Who does? - Toger STL - 8/31 09:05:58
                                   But its about us. Our free will - not Gods - Nohawks MU - 8/31 09:10:56
                                        Yes.. BUT God would have known she could handle it - TigerMatt STL - 8/31 10:54:27
                                             Possible however bottom line - Nohawks MU - 8/31 11:25:54
                                        12 yr old having free will to become pregnant. - Toger STL - 8/31 09:18:29
                                             A 12 year old (no we really don't know her age) - Nohawks MU - 8/31 09:27:21
                                                  So you believe God asks. - Toger STL - 8/31 09:40:58
                                                       Well suffice to say IMHO - Nohawks MU - 8/31 10:03:57
                                                            I was honestly taught by my mother that catholics are bad. - Toger STL - 8/31 10:14:06
                                                                 LOL. Well the Catholic Church is a mess right now - Nohawks MU - 8/31 10:50:16
                                                  I can't say that I care about Mary's age. It was a far - TigerMatt STL - 8/31 09:32:58
                                                       Agreed. Cultural factors in play (nm) - Nohawks MU - 8/31 09:50:44
                                                            Which makes the Bible, IMO, the most magnificent work - TigerMatt STL - 8/31 10:48:49
     ***Footnote: This is for the death fetishizing MizzouTigerz - TigerMatt STL - 8/31 01:32:44




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