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You're missing the obvious point...

Posted on: December 23, 2017 at 12:57:34 CT
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that the "voluntary" relationships you suppose are not voluntary in reality at all. And this is where we talk about private roads and how if Private Actor LLC owns the road and I need to take the road to work and I must pay a toll, then there's nothing in reality that is voluntary about my relationship with Private Actor LLC.

This is where you finagle the bagel using circular arguments. Not sure what your latest one is...I guess I don't have to go to work?

Edited by Gyro at 12:58:31 on 12/23/17
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What are we celebrating? - raskolnikov MU - 12/23 10:33:57
     All of that is celebrated, depending on family involved, to - GA Tiger MU - 12/23 12:06:01
     We? Ignorance at your house no doubt(nm) - TigerFan92 MU - 12/23 12:05:58
     I would say that the religious significance... - Gyro MU - 12/23 11:20:38
          governments and religion are easily the biggest murders of - recruiter MU - 12/23 15:22:13
          This coming from the generation that caint cross the damn - Uncle Fester USMC - 12/23 11:40:15
          WOA - STOP THE PRESSES - raskolnikov MU - 12/23 11:34:11
               Jean Shepherd's Christmas Story - Alferd Packer MU - 12/23 13:13:04
                    OMG Stop the presses, A Christmas Story not Tolstoy - raskolnikov MU - 12/23 16:23:11
               I look forward to the Oscars... - Gyro MU - 12/23 11:37:41
                    I try not to be a dyck. You might try it sometime(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 12/23 11:40:53
                         I think we're on the same team... - Gyro MU - 12/23 11:45:44
                              Wow, you think a gay slur carries weight. Wow - raskolnikov MU - 12/23 11:50:24
                                   Oh Lord (intended)... - Gyro MU - 12/23 11:51:41
                                        That is just SO gay(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 12/23 12:09:41
                         You need to try harder LOL - Uncle Fester USMC - 12/23 11:42:28
                              Yes. You are right about that(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 12/23 11:44:09
          It has not been erased at all among so many - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/23 11:22:20
               I will say this, I happily say Merry Christmas... - Gyro MU - 12/23 11:29:12
                    Good for you(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 12/23 11:42:19
                    And I respect you for that - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/23 11:32:11
                         There is nothing more respectful... - Gyro MU - 12/23 11:33:00
                              Amen to that(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/23 11:33:54
                    atheism, like anarchism, doesn’t have a goal (nm) - pickle MU - 12/23 11:30:14
                         I love how you think what you say is the rule... - Gyro MU - 12/23 11:31:44
                              no, it’s just an understanding of the isms and their meaning - pickle MU - 12/23 11:33:31
          there is no such thing as greed (nm) - pickle MU - 12/23 11:22:19
               This from the guy who steals from his employer... - Gyro MU - 12/23 11:23:59
                    what is greed, Gyro? define it for me, please (nm) - pickle MU - 12/23 11:25:38
                         RE: what is greed, Gyro? define it for me, please (nm) - Gyro MU - 12/23 11:30:46
                              so every desire or want is greedy? - pickle MU - 12/23 11:32:35
                                   Learn to read pickles, It says "selfish desire. - raskolnikov MU - 12/23 11:46:09
                                        Every desire is selfish (nm) - pickle MU - 12/23 17:08:45
                                        which desire is selfish and which isn't? (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/23 13:00:50
                                             Try reading a book(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 12/23 16:24:16
                                                  Try answering the question(nm) - pickle MU - 12/23 17:09:14
                                                       Selfish definition - raskolnikov MU - 12/23 17:45:26
                                                            every desire is selfish, rask (nm) - pickle MU - 12/23 19:07:02
                                   Just, wow - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/23 11:33:14
                                        given your denial of the individual - pickle MU - 12/23 11:35:03
                                             You advocate that greed should be uncapped... - Gyro MU - 12/23 11:36:53
                                                  but you make my point using the word “uncapped” - pickle MU - 12/23 11:42:10
                                                       Absolutely, capping greed is better... - Gyro MU - 12/23 11:45:12
                                                            right, you deny the individual - pickle MU - 12/23 12:06:26
                                                                 Yes, we know, you call it force... - Gyro MU - 12/23 12:13:09
                                                                      that’s a straw man - pickle MU - 12/23 12:20:27
                                                                           Oh that's right... - Gyro MU - 12/23 12:24:23
                                                                                no, i don’t think that all - pickle MU - 12/23 12:30:58
                                                                                     Forget the straw man... - Gyro MU - 12/23 12:43:49
                                                                                          the difference is coercive relationships - pickle MU - 12/23 12:53:50
                                                                                               You're missing the obvious point... - Gyro MU - 12/23 12:57:34
                                                                                                    No, this is just your ignorance - pickle MU - 12/23 17:11:27
                                                  no, i don’t believe there is such a thing as greed - pickle MU - 12/23 11:38:19
                                                       Yes, again we see your preference for the individual... - Gyro MU - 12/23 11:42:58
     Your poor Mom probably tried to raise her kids right, - JeffB MU - 12/23 11:18:18
     We are celebrating the birth of Jesus - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/23 11:09:11
          LOL, what a fairy tale... - Gyro MU - 12/23 11:21:34
               then u r random molecules and have no meaning so why - TigerFan92 MU - 12/23 12:09:09
                    Agree completely... - Gyro MU - 12/23 12:50:08
               That is harsh and blind to the power of Myth - raskolnikov MU - 12/23 11:26:46
                    What kinda miserable creep shows up and denigrates peoples - Uncle Fester USMC - 12/23 11:33:02
                         It is indeed telling that he has this need to show up - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/23 11:36:16
                              Chat room - discussing our culture - raskolnikov MU - 12/23 11:48:10
                                   I truly hope you can one day fill that enormous void - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/23 11:51:44
                                        Good will toward men - raskolnikov MU - 12/23 11:54:39
                                             But when the sea accepts river water laden with poison - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/23 11:59:07
                                                  That's mostly the point - raskolnikov MU - 12/23 12:03:07
                                                       The Triune God most certainly does not accept all rivers - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/23 12:05:29
                                                            RE: The Triune God most certainly does not accept all rivers - raskolnikov MU - 12/23 12:13:41
                                                                 Such confusion arises if you pick and select random passages - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/23 12:16:32
                         I seek to understand it honestly friend - raskolnikov MU - 12/23 11:35:17
                              No you dont, You seek to ridicule and undermine - Uncle Fester USMC - 12/23 11:37:23
                                   Show me an instance where I ridicule the faith - raskolnikov MU - 12/23 11:51:26
               What I read outside of the Bible merely confirms - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/23 11:23:51
                    it’s not truth. you mean confirms your faith (nm) - pickle MU - 12/23 11:28:57
                    That is FANCIFUL, my friend(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 12/23 11:27:30
                    All fantasy to avoid the truth which... - Gyro MU - 12/23 11:25:51
                         Tuesdays with Morrie. If you know it, great, if not, look it - raskolnikov MU - 12/23 11:30:24
                         You are free to express your faith as I do mine - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/23 11:29:15
                              Religion as a concept is just fine with me... - Gyro MU - 12/23 11:40:04
                              RE: You are free to express your faith as I do mine - raskolnikov MU - 12/23 11:39:02
                                   Yes. Religion as a concept...fantastic. - Gyro MU - 12/23 11:47:18
                                   From Adam and Eve it has been man’s desire to be - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/23 11:43:58
                                        RE: From Adam and Eve it has been man’s desire to be - raskolnikov MU - 12/23 11:57:39
                                             Fact. Lol(nm) - TigerFan92 MU - 12/23 12:21:21
                                             Scripture speaks of the critical need for faith - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/23 12:01:27
                                                  That depends on the Scripture you reference - raskolnikov MU - 12/23 12:06:53
                                                       The book of Romans clears that up rather well(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/23 12:08:02
                                                            RE: The book of Romans clears that up rather well(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 12/23 12:17:23
          the season predates jesus - pickle MU - 12/23 11:20:55
               What are the eats at a nihilist's Christmas dinner? - Gyro MU - 12/23 11:22:16
                    i wouldn’t know - pickle MU - 12/23 11:23:20
          RE: We are celebrating the birth of Jesus - raskolnikov MU - 12/23 11:17:25
               It’s a story that happened. It is real - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/23 11:19:39
                    RE: It’s a story based on fact - raskolnikov MU - 12/23 11:25:59
                    there is no evidence it happened - pickle MU - 12/23 11:21:46
                         All religion is faith - Silas MU - 12/23 11:29:49
                              RE: All religion is faith - pickle MU - 12/23 11:30:59
                         The fact of Jesus is not - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/23 11:25:36
                              I think most would agree that a Charismatic named Jesus - raskolnikov MU - 12/23 12:00:52
                                   In that case, “I agree with you” would have sufficed(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/23 12:03:01
                                        RE: In that case, “I agree with you” would have sufficed(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 12/23 12:08:38
                                             Absurd, but your view is known(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/23 12:17:16
                                                  It is an interpretation, nothing more(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 12/23 12:23:25
                              If that is what he is not, then what is he? - Silas MU - 12/23 11:31:36
                              the fact of jesus? - pickle MU - 12/23 11:28:14
     We are celebrating the birth of our Savior - Spanky KU - 12/23 10:56:56
          We do that with specials in the marketplace? - raskolnikov MU - 12/23 11:01:57
               Do you? - Spanky KU - 12/23 11:04:13
                    Not exclusively, but yes, on the message(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 12/23 11:08:44
               You have an amazing ability to zero in on things of little - Uncle Fester USMC - 12/23 11:03:35
                    That right there is funny - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/23 11:11:32
     Jesus Christ - El Zorro MU - 12/23 10:50:32
          Perhaps - raskolnikov MU - 12/23 10:58:46
               The fairy tale of Jesus ends with him being born in the... - Gyro MU - 12/23 11:23:27
                    well that’s understandable - pickle MU - 12/23 11:41:24
               We received the greatest gift of all - El Zorro MU - 12/23 11:06:20
                    Blessings back to you - raskolnikov MU - 12/23 11:14:00
               Maybe you need to understand that, I certainly dont - Uncle Fester USMC - 12/23 11:01:00
                    Again Boss - raskolnikov MU - 12/23 11:03:48
          Well thats right - Uncle Fester USMC - 12/23 10:53:36
     You just have to try to ruin Christmas with yer Bullsh#t - Uncle Fester USMC - 12/23 10:47:56
          I adore this time of year - raskolnikov MU - 12/23 10:54:42
               Correction, You are a follower - Uncle Fester USMC - 12/23 10:56:25
     It is a celebration of Life, it’s Beauty, it’s Promise, it’s - Silas MU - 12/23 10:42:55
          It’s a celebration of the birth of Jesus Christ - Spanky KU - 12/23 10:57:53
               Curious, isn't it though Jesus teachings opposed the mkt - raskolnikov MU - 12/23 11:05:44
               how shallow of you, Spanks. - Silas MU - 12/23 11:04:37
          Thanks. I like that.(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 12/23 10:55:11
     what’s this “we” bull****? (nm) - pickle MU - 12/23 10:34:43




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