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That depends on the Scripture you reference

Posted on: December 23, 2017 at 12:06:53 CT
raskolnikov MU
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It was not necessary for Jews to "believe" in El or Yahweh, God, but only to live by God's Laws. If you lived by God's Laws as a Jew, that was enough. Faith played no role.

Jesus tells us to put the Spirit before the flesh. That is a lesson hard-learned. You cannot serve two masters.

Self-LESS-ness brings you home. The Avatar Meher Baba wrote brilliantly on that. And his words ring of Christmas a little. That once man realizes the utter joy of GIVING, he will want nothing more in life than to give. Ahhhhh.
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What are we celebrating? - raskolnikov MU - 12/23 10:33:57
     All of that is celebrated, depending on family involved, to - GA Tiger MU - 12/23 12:06:01
     We? Ignorance at your house no doubt(nm) - TigerFan92 MU - 12/23 12:05:58
     I would say that the religious significance... - Gyro MU - 12/23 11:20:38
          governments and religion are easily the biggest murders of - recruiter MU - 12/23 15:22:13
          This coming from the generation that caint cross the damn - Uncle Fester USMC - 12/23 11:40:15
          WOA - STOP THE PRESSES - raskolnikov MU - 12/23 11:34:11
               Jean Shepherd's Christmas Story - Alferd Packer MU - 12/23 13:13:04
                    OMG Stop the presses, A Christmas Story not Tolstoy - raskolnikov MU - 12/23 16:23:11
               I look forward to the Oscars... - Gyro MU - 12/23 11:37:41
                    I try not to be a dyck. You might try it sometime(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 12/23 11:40:53
                         I think we're on the same team... - Gyro MU - 12/23 11:45:44
                              Wow, you think a gay slur carries weight. Wow - raskolnikov MU - 12/23 11:50:24
                                   Oh Lord (intended)... - Gyro MU - 12/23 11:51:41
                                        That is just SO gay(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 12/23 12:09:41
                         You need to try harder LOL - Uncle Fester USMC - 12/23 11:42:28
                              Yes. You are right about that(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 12/23 11:44:09
          It has not been erased at all among so many - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/23 11:22:20
               I will say this, I happily say Merry Christmas... - Gyro MU - 12/23 11:29:12
                    Good for you(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 12/23 11:42:19
                    And I respect you for that - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/23 11:32:11
                         There is nothing more respectful... - Gyro MU - 12/23 11:33:00
                              Amen to that(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/23 11:33:54
                    atheism, like anarchism, doesn’t have a goal (nm) - pickle MU - 12/23 11:30:14
                         I love how you think what you say is the rule... - Gyro MU - 12/23 11:31:44
                              no, it’s just an understanding of the isms and their meaning - pickle MU - 12/23 11:33:31
          there is no such thing as greed (nm) - pickle MU - 12/23 11:22:19
               This from the guy who steals from his employer... - Gyro MU - 12/23 11:23:59
                    what is greed, Gyro? define it for me, please (nm) - pickle MU - 12/23 11:25:38
                         RE: what is greed, Gyro? define it for me, please (nm) - Gyro MU - 12/23 11:30:46
                              so every desire or want is greedy? - pickle MU - 12/23 11:32:35
                                   Learn to read pickles, It says "selfish desire. - raskolnikov MU - 12/23 11:46:09
                                        Every desire is selfish (nm) - pickle MU - 12/23 17:08:45
                                        which desire is selfish and which isn't? (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/23 13:00:50
                                             Try reading a book(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 12/23 16:24:16
                                                  Try answering the question(nm) - pickle MU - 12/23 17:09:14
                                                       Selfish definition - raskolnikov MU - 12/23 17:45:26
                                                            every desire is selfish, rask (nm) - pickle MU - 12/23 19:07:02
                                   Just, wow - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/23 11:33:14
                                        given your denial of the individual - pickle MU - 12/23 11:35:03
                                             You advocate that greed should be uncapped... - Gyro MU - 12/23 11:36:53
                                                  but you make my point using the word “uncapped” - pickle MU - 12/23 11:42:10
                                                       Absolutely, capping greed is better... - Gyro MU - 12/23 11:45:12
                                                            right, you deny the individual - pickle MU - 12/23 12:06:26
                                                                 Yes, we know, you call it force... - Gyro MU - 12/23 12:13:09
                                                                      that’s a straw man - pickle MU - 12/23 12:20:27
                                                                           Oh that's right... - Gyro MU - 12/23 12:24:23
                                                                                no, i don’t think that all - pickle MU - 12/23 12:30:58
                                                                                     Forget the straw man... - Gyro MU - 12/23 12:43:49
                                                                                          the difference is coercive relationships - pickle MU - 12/23 12:53:50
                                                                                               You're missing the obvious point... - Gyro MU - 12/23 12:57:34
                                                                                                    No, this is just your ignorance - pickle MU - 12/23 17:11:27
                                                  no, i don’t believe there is such a thing as greed - pickle MU - 12/23 11:38:19
                                                       Yes, again we see your preference for the individual... - Gyro MU - 12/23 11:42:58
     Your poor Mom probably tried to raise her kids right, - JeffB MU - 12/23 11:18:18
     We are celebrating the birth of Jesus - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/23 11:09:11
          LOL, what a fairy tale... - Gyro MU - 12/23 11:21:34
               then u r random molecules and have no meaning so why - TigerFan92 MU - 12/23 12:09:09
                    Agree completely... - Gyro MU - 12/23 12:50:08
               That is harsh and blind to the power of Myth - raskolnikov MU - 12/23 11:26:46
                    What kinda miserable creep shows up and denigrates peoples - Uncle Fester USMC - 12/23 11:33:02
                         It is indeed telling that he has this need to show up - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/23 11:36:16
                              Chat room - discussing our culture - raskolnikov MU - 12/23 11:48:10
                                   I truly hope you can one day fill that enormous void - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/23 11:51:44
                                        Good will toward men - raskolnikov MU - 12/23 11:54:39
                                             But when the sea accepts river water laden with poison - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/23 11:59:07
                                                  That's mostly the point - raskolnikov MU - 12/23 12:03:07
                                                       The Triune God most certainly does not accept all rivers - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/23 12:05:29
                                                            RE: The Triune God most certainly does not accept all rivers - raskolnikov MU - 12/23 12:13:41
                                                                 Such confusion arises if you pick and select random passages - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/23 12:16:32
                         I seek to understand it honestly friend - raskolnikov MU - 12/23 11:35:17
                              No you dont, You seek to ridicule and undermine - Uncle Fester USMC - 12/23 11:37:23
                                   Show me an instance where I ridicule the faith - raskolnikov MU - 12/23 11:51:26
               What I read outside of the Bible merely confirms - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/23 11:23:51
                    it’s not truth. you mean confirms your faith (nm) - pickle MU - 12/23 11:28:57
                    That is FANCIFUL, my friend(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 12/23 11:27:30
                    All fantasy to avoid the truth which... - Gyro MU - 12/23 11:25:51
                         Tuesdays with Morrie. If you know it, great, if not, look it - raskolnikov MU - 12/23 11:30:24
                         You are free to express your faith as I do mine - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/23 11:29:15
                              Religion as a concept is just fine with me... - Gyro MU - 12/23 11:40:04
                              RE: You are free to express your faith as I do mine - raskolnikov MU - 12/23 11:39:02
                                   Yes. Religion as a concept...fantastic. - Gyro MU - 12/23 11:47:18
                                   From Adam and Eve it has been man’s desire to be - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/23 11:43:58
                                        RE: From Adam and Eve it has been man’s desire to be - raskolnikov MU - 12/23 11:57:39
                                             Fact. Lol(nm) - TigerFan92 MU - 12/23 12:21:21
                                             Scripture speaks of the critical need for faith - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/23 12:01:27
                                                  That depends on the Scripture you reference - raskolnikov MU - 12/23 12:06:53
                                                       The book of Romans clears that up rather well(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/23 12:08:02
                                                            RE: The book of Romans clears that up rather well(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 12/23 12:17:23
          the season predates jesus - pickle MU - 12/23 11:20:55
               What are the eats at a nihilist's Christmas dinner? - Gyro MU - 12/23 11:22:16
                    i wouldn’t know - pickle MU - 12/23 11:23:20
          RE: We are celebrating the birth of Jesus - raskolnikov MU - 12/23 11:17:25
               It’s a story that happened. It is real - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/23 11:19:39
                    RE: It’s a story based on fact - raskolnikov MU - 12/23 11:25:59
                    there is no evidence it happened - pickle MU - 12/23 11:21:46
                         All religion is faith - Silas MU - 12/23 11:29:49
                              RE: All religion is faith - pickle MU - 12/23 11:30:59
                         The fact of Jesus is not - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/23 11:25:36
                              I think most would agree that a Charismatic named Jesus - raskolnikov MU - 12/23 12:00:52
                                   In that case, “I agree with you” would have sufficed(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/23 12:03:01
                                        RE: In that case, “I agree with you” would have sufficed(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 12/23 12:08:38
                                             Absurd, but your view is known(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/23 12:17:16
                                                  It is an interpretation, nothing more(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 12/23 12:23:25
                              If that is what he is not, then what is he? - Silas MU - 12/23 11:31:36
                              the fact of jesus? - pickle MU - 12/23 11:28:14
     We are celebrating the birth of our Savior - Spanky KU - 12/23 10:56:56
          We do that with specials in the marketplace? - raskolnikov MU - 12/23 11:01:57
               Do you? - Spanky KU - 12/23 11:04:13
                    Not exclusively, but yes, on the message(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 12/23 11:08:44
               You have an amazing ability to zero in on things of little - Uncle Fester USMC - 12/23 11:03:35
                    That right there is funny - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/23 11:11:32
     Jesus Christ - El Zorro MU - 12/23 10:50:32
          Perhaps - raskolnikov MU - 12/23 10:58:46
               The fairy tale of Jesus ends with him being born in the... - Gyro MU - 12/23 11:23:27
                    well that’s understandable - pickle MU - 12/23 11:41:24
               We received the greatest gift of all - El Zorro MU - 12/23 11:06:20
                    Blessings back to you - raskolnikov MU - 12/23 11:14:00
               Maybe you need to understand that, I certainly dont - Uncle Fester USMC - 12/23 11:01:00
                    Again Boss - raskolnikov MU - 12/23 11:03:48
          Well thats right - Uncle Fester USMC - 12/23 10:53:36
     You just have to try to ruin Christmas with yer Bullsh#t - Uncle Fester USMC - 12/23 10:47:56
          I adore this time of year - raskolnikov MU - 12/23 10:54:42
               Correction, You are a follower - Uncle Fester USMC - 12/23 10:56:25
     It is a celebration of Life, it’s Beauty, it’s Promise, it’s - Silas MU - 12/23 10:42:55
          It’s a celebration of the birth of Jesus Christ - Spanky KU - 12/23 10:57:53
               Curious, isn't it though Jesus teachings opposed the mkt - raskolnikov MU - 12/23 11:05:44
               how shallow of you, Spanks. - Silas MU - 12/23 11:04:37
          Thanks. I like that.(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 12/23 10:55:11
     what’s this “we” bull****? (nm) - pickle MU - 12/23 10:34:43




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