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It is an incorrect point then.

Posted on: December 5, 2017 at 16:22:58 CT
JeffB MU
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Let us change the dilemma a little bit then.

Let us say that you are given the choice between saving a fetus or a grandmother riddled with cancer who will die within a week. If you choose to save the unborn child does that mean that the grandmother is not a human being? Does it mean that she is worthless? Of course not.

There was a woman in Italy, I believe, who was diagnosed with cancer and was given the option of treatment that would kill her unborn child. She refused, instead letting her child continue to grow and mature even as the cancer was eating away at her. She gave birth, but died of the cancer shortly afterwards.

Does that mean that because she chose to let her child live rather than saving her own life that she was not actually a human being? Did it mean that she was of little worth? Of course not.

The entire premise is illogical and absurd.
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11 states: We Have a Right to Protect Unborn Babies From - JeffB MU - 12/5 12:46:24
     Illegal Immigrant Teen Aborts Her Baby, needs mental health - JeffB MU - 12/5 13:02:51
     How about legislating vasectomies for men? - limenats MU - 12/5 13:02:01
          Men don't get pregnant. Women need to be smarter - Spanky KU - 12/5 13:23:08
          Satanists and eugenicists are probably applauding your plan(nm) - JeffB MU - 12/5 13:04:04
               If legislators can decide what a woman can and can't do - limenats MU - 12/5 13:05:23
                    Are you really so far out of touch with reality that you - JeffB MU - 12/5 13:14:28
                         "so far out of touch with reality - pickle MU - 12/5 13:45:44
                              That drew you in like a moth to a flame, didn't it? (nm) - JeffB MU - 12/5 13:48:10
                         I'm making the point that men are almost exclusively - limenats MU - 12/5 13:20:10
                              No, the legislation is prohibiting killing someone else's - JeffB MU - 12/5 13:29:27
                                   RE: No, the legislation is prohibiting killing someone else's - limenats MU - 12/5 13:46:45
                                        I had not seen it before seeing your link below. I think it - JeffB MU - 12/5 14:51:24
                                             That's the point, yes. - limenats MU - 12/5 15:31:40
                                                  Would you agree that if the fetus is a human being that it - JeffB MU - 12/5 16:24:14
                                                       An embryo isn't considered a fetus until eight weeks after - limenats MU - 12/5 16:40:53
                                                            It would be immoral to kill a fetus if it was a human being' - JeffB MU - 12/5 17:42:48
                                                  It is an incorrect point then. - JeffB MU - 12/5 16:22:58
                                                       A couple things... - limenats MU - 12/5 16:51:34
                                                            and there is a difference between a newborn and a toddler, - JeffB MU - 12/5 17:54:49
                    You're forgetting one key part, on purpose I think(nm) - LimerNick MU - 12/5 13:06:00
                         Which is? - limenats MU - 12/5 13:06:31
                              In case you are being serious (which you are not) - LimerNick MU - 12/5 13:12:12
                                   I was being serious actually so thanks for explaining - limenats MU - 12/5 13:16:21
                                        For the sake of brevity I will link Ben Shapiro's response - LimerNick MU - 12/5 13:30:49
                                             So, when you said the woman is not the only human being - limenats MU - 12/5 13:44:57
                                                  Well let's change the terms of the discussion a little bit - LimerNick MU - 12/5 13:57:54
                                                       It's an interesting discussion. - limenats MU - 12/5 14:19:21
                                                            A few points to finish up, because I have work to do - LimerNick MU - 12/5 14:45:37
                                                                 I have to stop you at number 1. - limenats MU - 12/5 15:09:25
                                                                      False conclusion... - JeffB MU - 12/5 15:17:03
                                                                           Shapiro acknowledges he would save the child over the 1000 - limenats MU - 12/5 15:21:12
     The GOP loves the unborn... - Gyro MU - 12/5 12:54:52
          RE: The GOP loves the unborn flag to rally - catbirdseat MU - 12/5 13:01:40
               Indeed. They are very good at manipulating the unread... - Gyro MU - 12/5 13:03:53
                    Forget the diversionary tactics... Do you believe that the - JeffB MU - 12/5 13:07:44
                         Yes - catbirdseat MU - 12/5 13:48:48
                              Yes to both questions? Free abortions? Free food, shelter, - JeffB MU - 12/5 14:56:31
          That's a lie. Does it make you feel better at night? (nm) - JeffB MU - 12/5 12:59:52
               It's absolute truth(nm) - Gyro MU - 12/5 13:05:12
                    It's a lie. 'The GOP' is made up of millions of people with - JeffB MU - 12/5 13:11:39
                         You seem to have your mind set on this issue... - Gyro MU - 12/5 13:16:05
                              I am open to having my mind changed if somehow I have - JeffB MU - 12/5 13:37:05
                                   Abortion is legal in our country, that's the flaw in your... - Gyro MU - 12/5 13:39:29
                                        No, you are ignoring THE argument, and asserting a false - JeffB MU - 12/5 13:47:20




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