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Posted on: December 5, 2017 at 15:17:03 CT
JeffB MU
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"Your faith tells you an embryo is a human being. But, when you have to think about it, you acknowledge it isn't by choosing to save the child (in the thought experiment)."

Change the thought experiment a little.

For instance, use Ben Shapiro's example. Five people are tied to railroad tracks behind the bridge you are standing on. A train is coming and will kill all of them unless you throw the lady standing on the bridge next to you over the rail and onto the tracks. The engineer will see her, won't be able to stop in time, but will stop. She will die, but the train will stop before killing the other five people. Would you throw her onto the tracks?

If not, and most people would not, does that mean that the five people tied to the tracks are not human beings?
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11 states: We Have a Right to Protect Unborn Babies From - JeffB MU - 12/5 12:46:24
     Illegal Immigrant Teen Aborts Her Baby, needs mental health - JeffB MU - 12/5 13:02:51
     How about legislating vasectomies for men? - limenats MU - 12/5 13:02:01
          Men don't get pregnant. Women need to be smarter - Spanky KU - 12/5 13:23:08
          Satanists and eugenicists are probably applauding your plan(nm) - JeffB MU - 12/5 13:04:04
               If legislators can decide what a woman can and can't do - limenats MU - 12/5 13:05:23
                    Are you really so far out of touch with reality that you - JeffB MU - 12/5 13:14:28
                         "so far out of touch with reality - pickle MU - 12/5 13:45:44
                              That drew you in like a moth to a flame, didn't it? (nm) - JeffB MU - 12/5 13:48:10
                         I'm making the point that men are almost exclusively - limenats MU - 12/5 13:20:10
                              No, the legislation is prohibiting killing someone else's - JeffB MU - 12/5 13:29:27
                                   RE: No, the legislation is prohibiting killing someone else's - limenats MU - 12/5 13:46:45
                                        I had not seen it before seeing your link below. I think it - JeffB MU - 12/5 14:51:24
                                             That's the point, yes. - limenats MU - 12/5 15:31:40
                                                  Would you agree that if the fetus is a human being that it - JeffB MU - 12/5 16:24:14
                                                       An embryo isn't considered a fetus until eight weeks after - limenats MU - 12/5 16:40:53
                                                            It would be immoral to kill a fetus if it was a human being' - JeffB MU - 12/5 17:42:48
                                                  It is an incorrect point then. - JeffB MU - 12/5 16:22:58
                                                       A couple things... - limenats MU - 12/5 16:51:34
                                                            and there is a difference between a newborn and a toddler, - JeffB MU - 12/5 17:54:49
                    You're forgetting one key part, on purpose I think(nm) - LimerNick MU - 12/5 13:06:00
                         Which is? - limenats MU - 12/5 13:06:31
                              In case you are being serious (which you are not) - LimerNick MU - 12/5 13:12:12
                                   I was being serious actually so thanks for explaining - limenats MU - 12/5 13:16:21
                                        For the sake of brevity I will link Ben Shapiro's response - LimerNick MU - 12/5 13:30:49
                                             So, when you said the woman is not the only human being - limenats MU - 12/5 13:44:57
                                                  Well let's change the terms of the discussion a little bit - LimerNick MU - 12/5 13:57:54
                                                       It's an interesting discussion. - limenats MU - 12/5 14:19:21
                                                            A few points to finish up, because I have work to do - LimerNick MU - 12/5 14:45:37
                                                                 I have to stop you at number 1. - limenats MU - 12/5 15:09:25
                                                                      False conclusion... - JeffB MU - 12/5 15:17:03
                                                                           Shapiro acknowledges he would save the child over the 1000 - limenats MU - 12/5 15:21:12
     The GOP loves the unborn... - Gyro MU - 12/5 12:54:52
          RE: The GOP loves the unborn flag to rally - catbirdseat MU - 12/5 13:01:40
               Indeed. They are very good at manipulating the unread... - Gyro MU - 12/5 13:03:53
                    Forget the diversionary tactics... Do you believe that the - JeffB MU - 12/5 13:07:44
                         Yes - catbirdseat MU - 12/5 13:48:48
                              Yes to both questions? Free abortions? Free food, shelter, - JeffB MU - 12/5 14:56:31
          That's a lie. Does it make you feel better at night? (nm) - JeffB MU - 12/5 12:59:52
               It's absolute truth(nm) - Gyro MU - 12/5 13:05:12
                    It's a lie. 'The GOP' is made up of millions of people with - JeffB MU - 12/5 13:11:39
                         You seem to have your mind set on this issue... - Gyro MU - 12/5 13:16:05
                              I am open to having my mind changed if somehow I have - JeffB MU - 12/5 13:37:05
                                   Abortion is legal in our country, that's the flaw in your... - Gyro MU - 12/5 13:39:29
                                        No, you are ignoring THE argument, and asserting a false - JeffB MU - 12/5 13:47:20




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