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A few points to finish up, because I have work to do
Posted on: December 5, 2017 at 14:45:37 CT
LimerNick MU
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1) I do not agree that an embryo is not a human being. It is absolutely a unique, individual, human life worth preserving.
2) Despite my Catholic faith I fully support birth control that prevents conception (be it barrier, chemical, or procedural). That is a reasonable way to prevent the murder of these unborn children. I recognize that many of my faith and others do not support this view.
3) Again in your post you are attempting to frame this in some sort of feminist light: "why do women have to do this, why not men?" What laws are you exactly proposing that would prevent men from terminating a pregnancy? If you are speaking about arresting abortion providers I may be willing to listen. Otherwise I'm not sure what you are getting at.
3) You list "sterilizing men" as a possible answer. Who exactly are you proposing to sterilize? Men and women all over the world come together in unity to create families voluntarily; how will you pinpoint only the men who are going to accidentally get someone pregnant? The whole idea is bonkers, logistically to say nothing of morally.
(and PS, if you are looking to 20th century China for your ideas on governance than you and I just aren't going to have many fruitful conversations)
4) Until artificial wombs are created (which will be a sad day indeed) women are the ones physically carrying the child. "Men" didn't do this to women. God did (or Allah, or Mother Earth, or evolution, or whatever your particular flavor is). The desire to prevent abortion isn't one to "punish" women despite what the "enlightened" purveyors of Jezebel might tell you.
5) This makes some people feel icky, but yes, women carry 50% of the responsibility to care for the new life that they helped create, except in a very small percentage of cases.
I hope you and yours have a wonderful Christmas season.
Go Mizzou!
LN
Edited by LimerNick at 15:00:43 on 12/05/17
2) Despite my Catholic faith I fully support birth control that prevents conception (be it barrier, chemical, or procedural). That is a reasonable way to prevent the murder of these unborn children. I recognize that many of my faith and others do not support this view.
3) Again in your post you are attempting to frame this in some sort of feminist light: "why do women have to do this, why not men?" What laws are you exactly proposing that would prevent men from terminating a pregnancy? If you are speaking about arresting abortion providers I may be willing to listen. Otherwise I'm not sure what you are getting at.
3) You list "sterilizing men" as a possible answer. Who exactly are you proposing to sterilize? Men and women all over the world come together in unity to create families voluntarily; how will you pinpoint only the men who are going to accidentally get someone pregnant? The whole idea is bonkers, logistically to say nothing of morally.
(and PS, if you are looking to 20th century China for your ideas on governance than you and I just aren't going to have many fruitful conversations)
4) Until artificial wombs are created (which will be a sad day indeed) women are the ones physically carrying the child. "Men" didn't do this to women. God did (or Allah, or Mother Earth, or evolution, or whatever your particular flavor is). The desire to prevent abortion isn't one to "punish" women despite what the "enlightened" purveyors of Jezebel might tell you.
5) This makes some people feel icky, but yes, women carry 50% of the responsibility to care for the new life that they helped create, except in a very small percentage of cases.
I hope you and yours have a wonderful Christmas season.
Go Mizzou!
LN
Edited by LimerNick at 15:00:43 on 12/05/17
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A few points to finish up, because I have work to do - LimerNick MU - 12/5 14:45:37