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I have to stop you at number 1.

Posted on: December 5, 2017 at 15:09:25 CT
limenats MU
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Your faith tells you an embryo is a human being. But, when you have to think about it, you acknowledge it isn't by choosing to save the child (in the thought experiment).

For me, my decision making proceeds from that acknowledgement. For you, you ignore that acknowledgement and rely on faith rather than intellect.

The courts won't attempt to regulate your faith in this case but they can guarantee a woman's rights in spite of your beliefs.

About half of women in the U.S. who get abortions are living with the father. About a third of those are married to the father.

Those men would be ideal candidates for information about birth control/male sterilization at the very least.
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11 states: We Have a Right to Protect Unborn Babies From - JeffB MU - 12/5 12:46:24
     Illegal Immigrant Teen Aborts Her Baby, needs mental health - JeffB MU - 12/5 13:02:51
     How about legislating vasectomies for men? - limenats MU - 12/5 13:02:01
          Men don't get pregnant. Women need to be smarter - Spanky KU - 12/5 13:23:08
          Satanists and eugenicists are probably applauding your plan(nm) - JeffB MU - 12/5 13:04:04
               If legislators can decide what a woman can and can't do - limenats MU - 12/5 13:05:23
                    Are you really so far out of touch with reality that you - JeffB MU - 12/5 13:14:28
                         "so far out of touch with reality - pickle MU - 12/5 13:45:44
                              That drew you in like a moth to a flame, didn't it? (nm) - JeffB MU - 12/5 13:48:10
                         I'm making the point that men are almost exclusively - limenats MU - 12/5 13:20:10
                              No, the legislation is prohibiting killing someone else's - JeffB MU - 12/5 13:29:27
                                   RE: No, the legislation is prohibiting killing someone else's - limenats MU - 12/5 13:46:45
                                        I had not seen it before seeing your link below. I think it - JeffB MU - 12/5 14:51:24
                                             That's the point, yes. - limenats MU - 12/5 15:31:40
                                                  Would you agree that if the fetus is a human being that it - JeffB MU - 12/5 16:24:14
                                                       An embryo isn't considered a fetus until eight weeks after - limenats MU - 12/5 16:40:53
                                                            It would be immoral to kill a fetus if it was a human being' - JeffB MU - 12/5 17:42:48
                                                  It is an incorrect point then. - JeffB MU - 12/5 16:22:58
                                                       A couple things... - limenats MU - 12/5 16:51:34
                                                            and there is a difference between a newborn and a toddler, - JeffB MU - 12/5 17:54:49
                    You're forgetting one key part, on purpose I think(nm) - LimerNick MU - 12/5 13:06:00
                         Which is? - limenats MU - 12/5 13:06:31
                              In case you are being serious (which you are not) - LimerNick MU - 12/5 13:12:12
                                   I was being serious actually so thanks for explaining - limenats MU - 12/5 13:16:21
                                        For the sake of brevity I will link Ben Shapiro's response - LimerNick MU - 12/5 13:30:49
                                             So, when you said the woman is not the only human being - limenats MU - 12/5 13:44:57
                                                  Well let's change the terms of the discussion a little bit - LimerNick MU - 12/5 13:57:54
                                                       It's an interesting discussion. - limenats MU - 12/5 14:19:21
                                                            A few points to finish up, because I have work to do - LimerNick MU - 12/5 14:45:37
                                                                 I have to stop you at number 1. - limenats MU - 12/5 15:09:25
                                                                      False conclusion... - JeffB MU - 12/5 15:17:03
                                                                           Shapiro acknowledges he would save the child over the 1000 - limenats MU - 12/5 15:21:12
     The GOP loves the unborn... - Gyro MU - 12/5 12:54:52
          RE: The GOP loves the unborn flag to rally - catbirdseat MU - 12/5 13:01:40
               Indeed. They are very good at manipulating the unread... - Gyro MU - 12/5 13:03:53
                    Forget the diversionary tactics... Do you believe that the - JeffB MU - 12/5 13:07:44
                         Yes - catbirdseat MU - 12/5 13:48:48
                              Yes to both questions? Free abortions? Free food, shelter, - JeffB MU - 12/5 14:56:31
          That's a lie. Does it make you feel better at night? (nm) - JeffB MU - 12/5 12:59:52
               It's absolute truth(nm) - Gyro MU - 12/5 13:05:12
                    It's a lie. 'The GOP' is made up of millions of people with - JeffB MU - 12/5 13:11:39
                         You seem to have your mind set on this issue... - Gyro MU - 12/5 13:16:05
                              I am open to having my mind changed if somehow I have - JeffB MU - 12/5 13:37:05
                                   Abortion is legal in our country, that's the flaw in your... - Gyro MU - 12/5 13:39:29
                                        No, you are ignoring THE argument, and asserting a false - JeffB MU - 12/5 13:47:20




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