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I think you have a point in there

Posted on: August 16, 2024 at 12:16:00 CT
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People forget that this time last year Drink's seat was VERY hot over poor QB play. And that is 100% on him as he was the HC and the OC (and the QB coach if I remember correctly). In other words, Kirby absolutely saved his bacon last year. But Drink gets credit for that too by acknowledging he needed to hire a separate OC and let him do his thing, and for getting the right guy.

I've disagreed with everything Drink has done with the QB position, even last year. I don't dislike Cook at all and he did a good job last year, but the backup needed to get more snaps to be "game ready" in case of an injury. And there was no QB controversy to start the year and he should have just been honest about that.

I think it's fair to evaluate his ability to judge QB's at two times, before Kirby and after Kirby. Before Kirby I'd give him a D-. After Kirby I'd give him a B+ with a good chance to move up to A+ depending on what happens after Cook graduates. Kirby has made a huge positive impact on QB play and I hate that he's probably going to move up the coaching ranks to another team next year.
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Topic for debate: Can Drink actually judge QB talent? - phrejd KC - 8/16 11:06:17
     Can Ryan Day? (nm) - bellimus MU - 8/17 09:21:24
     RE: Topic for debate: Can Drink actually judge QB talent? - Gallowglass USMC - 8/16 21:22:06
     Most QBs in general are a miss. How many top programs sign - MIZtigerZOU MU - 8/16 17:53:30
     There is always alot of turnover at QB if there if the... - BandG MU - 8/16 17:01:22
     I'm going to file this in my rolodex under Phishing - samclemens MU - 8/16 16:33:28
     RE: Topic for debate: Can Drink actually judge QB talent? - tigrito MU - 8/16 15:51:23
          RE: Topic for debate: Can Drink actually judge QB talent? - CulturedDan KC - 8/16 22:41:46
          Don't you mean all backup quarterbacks are good? Nm - BandG MU - 8/16 17:04:48
          What blows my mind is that someone said - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 8/16 16:15:26
          huh?(nm) - TheWildcat MU - 8/16 15:58:38
          Maybe the worst take ever on Tigerboard(nm) - Diamond Dave MU - 8/16 15:57:27
     We were spoiled by HCGP in regards to QB's, he was a little - playhard KC - 8/16 14:06:08
          no - FootballRefugee MU - 8/17 10:09:51
          GP's QB's through the years: - phrejd KC - 8/16 14:30:19
     he literally just took a 3 star recruit that many on - noodle MU - 8/16 13:14:06
     We know you can't. You said Cook sucked... - Gyro STL - 8/16 13:00:58
          Everyone thought Cook sucked heading into last year - Columbian Gold MU - 8/16 13:34:57
               for sure(nm) - TigerA MU - 8/16 14:40:36
               you're wasting your time. he's incapable of discussion (nm) - phrejd KC - 8/16 13:38:48
                    What? I discussed how you thought Cook sucked... - Gyro STL - 8/17 14:53:03
     I feel like the only real miss in that list is Macon. Horn's - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 8/16 12:37:26
          if horn starts next year and zollers develops into a starter - phrejd KC - 8/16 12:41:58
               What if Pyne starts? And Zollers develops? (nm) - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 8/16 12:43:41
                    then that would mean horn was a bust - phrejd KC - 8/16 12:56:07
                         If Horn gets a huge Major League Baseball contract, I - JeffB MU - 8/16 19:32:14
                         RE: then that would mean horn was a bust - nomotiger MU - 8/16 14:22:13
     Cook beat out everyone on that list but Zollers, so your - tigertix MU - 8/16 12:21:38
          maybe you can go back to debating ku's projections or ou's - phrejd KC - 8/16 12:29:08
     I think you have a point in there - BigDave MU - 8/16 12:16:00
          I've been beatin' that drum for a while. Kirby, - HDTiger MU - 8/16 14:28:38
          i don't know who our #2 is right now - phrejd KC - 8/16 12:27:33
     None of that is evidence of Drink being bad at QBs - alwaysright MU - 8/16 11:28:04
          fair point. and looking back through previous coaches - phrejd KC - 8/16 11:57:38
               Did you make a Chase Daniel short joke there? Otherwise - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 8/16 12:42:49
                    lol no i was not but thanks for pointing that out - phrejd KC - 8/16 12:50:18
                         I think Texas offered him late, but he said, no, he was - JeffB MU - 8/16 20:33:13
                         I think we did get lucky that Perriloux kid decided to - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 8/16 12:54:21
     Well Cook has been his QB. He saw potential in him and - Erwin Fletcher STL - 8/16 11:13:55
          counter argument: he didn't recruit cook and started a - phrejd KC - 8/16 11:15:21
               He didn't recruit Cook but stuck with him. Bazelak was his - Erwin Fletcher STL - 8/16 12:41:41
                    i don't think he had much choice but to stick with cook - phrejd KC - 8/16 12:47:19
                         Agreed he needs to figure out a way to get the backup - Erwin Fletcher STL - 8/16 13:02:03
               He also started that other guy from TCU who really - Genco98 MU - 8/16 11:41:41
                    N - alwaysright MU - 8/16 11:58:03
                    Robinson's only game was vs Bama - Columbian Gold MU - 8/16 11:52:39
                         He started the Tennessee game the next week and sucked. - alwaysright MU - 8/16 11:58:59
                              Baze sucked in that game too - Columbian Gold MU - 8/16 12:12:05
                              either way i'm blaming odom for that. drink didn't have a - phrejd KC - 8/16 12:08:23
                                   I don't think he's poor with QBs - Genco98 MU - 8/16 12:38:28
                                        Robinson sucked. But while I’m not sure I would have - alwaysright MU - 8/16 12:54:00
                                             dunno about bazelak's upside. i always considered him a low - phrejd KC - 8/16 12:58:08
                                                  Services and coaches really liked him because he - alwaysright MU - 8/16 13:00:23
                                                       bazelak was an option qb in hs? - phrejd KC - 8/16 13:15:51
                                                            He attended a high school that ran an option offense. Not - alwaysright MU - 8/16 13:32:25
                                                                 fair. just funny that he's probably the least mobile qb - phrejd KC - 8/16 13:38:17
                                                                      Could that have been a result of the ACL tear he had - JeffB MU - 8/16 23:01:59
                    i thought that was odom - phrejd KC - 8/16 11:51:26
     That seems like a very skewed way of laying out the - JeffB MU - 8/16 11:12:55
          i'm not implying anything. how is it skewed? (nm) - phrejd KC - 8/16 11:13:54
               Asking for debate on 'Can Drink actually judge QB talent?' - JeffB MU - 8/16 16:58:58
     Are you serious ? nm - Nohawks KC - 8/16 11:07:28
          who is his most productive qb recruit? (nm) - phrejd KC - 8/16 11:13:13
               Okay. I'll take your question seriously - Nohawks KC - 8/16 11:31:18
                    everything you listed is true of every coach and every - phrejd KC - 8/16 11:49:55
                         Well I go back to the point then - Nohawks KC - 8/16 12:52:39
                              i'm not going to speculate what he'd be if odom where here - phrejd KC - 8/16 13:36:22




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