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sometimes there is just a perfect storm of **** that happens

Posted on: February 8, 2024 at 14:12:15 CT
Fire Marshall Bill STL
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even to really good coaches

I posted last week Norm had seasons where he won 3 and 4 league games, well into his tenure at Mizzou

This offseason/next season is obviously going to tell us a lot more, but I'm right where you are. I wasn't ready to build him a statue after last year, nor am I ready to fire him after this year.
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Maybe it's age, maybe it's a gut feeling - Eggs MU - 2/8 14:06:09
     If they were to lose out that would kind of suck - playhard KC - 2/8 20:54:25
     I was excited in the beginning - Tptiger MU - 2/8 19:22:08
     RE: Maybe it's age, maybe it's a gut feeling - tigrito MU - 2/8 17:36:11
     I was hopeful but the zero coaching on defense and rebounds - TigerFan92 STL - 2/8 17:01:47
          How much of the poor defense is about talent - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/8 17:21:04
               So, having - Ohtiger MU - 2/8 17:50:38
                    What if he believes long term that system - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/8 17:59:15
                         RE: What if he believes long term that system - tigrito MU - 2/8 19:32:37
                              Then that will be shown after the recruiting - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/8 19:35:35
               Defense is coaching and desire. - TigerFan92 STL - 2/8 17:42:33
                    Disagree that it’s about effort - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/8 17:54:09
                         I have seen all white teams be great at defense.. - shorty MU - 2/9 10:56:45
                              Playing the same defensive scheme Mizzou uses? (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/9 10:57:45
                         It is about coaching and effort and while it may take - TigerFan92 STL - 2/8 22:02:20
                              The defense was improved when Grill was available - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/8 22:23:22
                         RE: Disagree that it’s about effort - tigrito MU - 2/8 19:36:45
                              You could add a couple more. - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/8 19:47:47
          the poor rebounding does bother me (nm) - phrejd MU - 2/8 17:07:40
     His accomplishment last year was something half the - XRob MU - 2/8 16:07:20
          None of the coaches other than Gates had a vault of NIL cash - alstl MU - 2/8 16:45:48
               Meh - XRob MU - 2/8 16:49:50
          Some of you are still fooled by last year's win total... - zounami MU - 2/8 16:17:05
               A lot of truth in your post. This year's team never gelled. - Ohtiger MU - 2/8 16:55:27
               You're not wrong (for once) but all we can do is wait - Yosa125 TAMU - 2/8 16:55:10
               We got a top 4 seed in the conference tourney - XRob MU - 2/8 16:44:02
     Nothing should have really changed. People overreacted to - alwaysright MU - 2/8 15:37:00
          How can you overreact to a season like this? It's on pace to - zounami MU - 2/8 16:42:51
               That is false. Even if they lose every remaining game. - alwaysright MU - 2/8 17:13:52
                    if we lose out, name another season that's worse (nm) - zounami MU - 2/8 17:16:06
                         .120 & .125 < .250 with an elite recruiting class - alwaysright MU - 2/8 17:21:51
                              which seasons are you referring to? (nm) - zounami MU - 2/8 20:05:33
     The only way that happens is if our limited "NIL" resources - zounami MU - 2/8 15:32:40
          The so simple a caveman can do it approach - tman MU - 2/8 16:05:02
               exactly (nm) - zounami MU - 2/8 16:05:49
          It will be easier to throw $3 million in NIL - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/8 15:35:38
               unfortunately, I agree with that... our AD made a mistake - zounami MU - 2/8 15:37:22
                    That’s what consistently good teams do - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/8 15:40:03
                         he's playing chess here - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/8 15:43:07
                              And an excuse if Drink falls back to earth - hou4mu MU - 2/8 15:53:00
                                   if money is siphoned away from FB to prop up the BB hire... - zounami MU - 2/8 15:56:37
                                        Elite recruiter? Stretch(nm) - Diamond Dave MU - 2/8 19:11:36
                                        You must think DRF is really stupid - hou4mu MU - 2/8 16:03:41
                                             Zou just thinks he is smarter than everyone(nm) - tman MU - 2/8 16:06:32
                                                  No, he doesn’t - haeffb MU - 2/8 16:13:04
                                                       meth is a helluva drug (nm) - phrejd MU - 2/8 17:05:43
                                             She was retarded to give Gates a $25M buyout, and I bet - zounami MU - 2/8 16:05:18
                                                  As long as football is successful, she wins - hou4mu MU - 2/8 16:21:36
                                                       like I said, you're naïve if you actually believe that (nm) - zounami MU - 2/8 16:25:07
                                                            let me put it this way...if Gates has another KA-like season - zounami MU - 2/8 16:34:08
                                                                 Thank goodness Drink will lead us to the playoff - hou4mu MU - 2/8 16:46:44
                              not hedging... I'm predicting what is most likely to happen - zounami MU - 2/8 15:46:55
                                   I’m not mad at ya - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/8 15:56:32
                                   i.e., I am expecting a "really [expensive] portal haul"... - zounami MU - 2/8 15:48:35
                         (1) Those teams have good coaches who can maximize - zounami MU - 2/8 15:42:54
                              Mizzou has a good coach as well. - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/8 15:53:59
                                   didn't Gates just set a record for longest losing streak in - zounami MU - 2/8 16:01:12
                                        No. (nm) - haeffb MU - 2/8 16:10:26
                                             Gates just tied the record, at 13 straight losses, and has a - zounami MU - 2/8 16:22:57
                                                  No. (nm) - haeffb MU - 2/8 16:29:04
                                                       10 straight L's & 13 of the last 14 (all except Central AR) - zounami MU - 2/8 16:41:35
                                                            Yes. (nm) - haeffb MU - 2/8 16:53:46
                                        Yes, and(nm) - tman MU - 2/8 16:07:09
                                             I'm pretty sure the point is obvious. (nm) - zounami MU - 2/8 16:08:35
                              Naw. I'm starting to think that these days coaching - Yosa125 TAMU - 2/8 15:48:36
                                   good point.Dickenson was not coached up by BS he was bought(nm) - oldtgr MU - 2/8 16:11:27
                                   You're so wrong. Coaching has a huge impact. It's hard to - zounami MU - 2/8 15:50:45
                                        That's not really convincing. Consider me unswayed - Yosa125 TAMU - 2/8 15:54:48
     Maybe it’s the track record of DG and/or CY - hou4mu MU - 2/8 15:31:49
     I think I’m about 40% behind him - FIJItiger MU - 2/8 15:28:20
          I also do not think he is a good coach (nm) - TheWildcat MU - 2/8 15:38:46
          I told you. (nm) - zounami MU - 2/8 15:33:15
     Yep - agree - when you follow sports as long as I have - El Zorro MU - 2/8 15:27:43
     Yeah I think he will stil be successful - atMIZZOUnow MU - 2/8 15:21:19
     He's more likable than the last few coaches we've had. - Yosa125 TAMU - 2/8 14:45:04
          #3 is not happening - meatiger MU - 2/8 14:51:01
               Honor, East, Bates are all taking midrange shots. - haeffb MU - 2/8 16:06:50
               Layups create ft opportunities (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/8 14:52:34
                    They can - meatiger MU - 2/8 14:58:00
                         That’s true - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/8 15:34:12
     Agreed - meatiger MU - 2/8 14:42:49
     agree with this all. (nm) - TigerA MU - 2/8 14:41:23
     After last year, I was 70% sure he’d succeed here. - TheWildcat MU - 2/8 14:40:11
     The good news for you then is we can't fire him now because - alstl MU - 2/8 14:38:53
          yeah i guess it's good they can't make a retarded decision - phrejd MU - 2/8 15:05:38
               One of the highest paid coaches in the history of college - alstl MU - 2/8 15:16:05
                    lol, not even a top 10 paid coach currently. of course - TigerA MU - 2/8 15:21:52
          they could find the money if they needed to. there is no - TigerA MU - 2/8 14:42:37
               No, but even if they did, donor $ is a finite resource that - zounami MU - 2/8 15:16:44
                    lol, you can't say it was a mistake based on 3/4 of one - TigerA MU - 2/8 15:24:42
                         It was a horrendous mistake. There was no reason to give - zounami MU - 2/8 15:35:07
                              shocked you picked kenpom(nm) - TigerA MU - 2/8 15:38:07
                                   Which rating model do you prefer? (nm) - zounami MU - 2/8 15:40:00
               No they can't. That's nearly half of the big donation(nm) - alstl MU - 2/8 14:44:25
                    it doesn't all have to come from one party(nm) - TigerA MU - 2/8 14:47:23
                         If so, that would be one hell of a party(nm) - meatiger MU - 2/8 14:50:13
                         Naive(nm) - alstl MU - 2/8 14:49:51
     Agree to a point. I now have a ? after Gates name - pinkman MU - 2/8 14:38:16
     same(nm) - MizzouAstro MU - 2/8 14:37:45
     I'm 100% certain next year will be better than this year.(nm) - SuperTone MU - 2/8 14:24:43
          true, we can't possibly have negative SEC wins(nm) - TigerA MU - 2/8 14:41:41
               i bet frank haith could do that (nm) - phrejd MU - 2/8 15:04:04
     Agree nm - APfor3 MU - 2/8 14:22:05
     same. this season sucks and it's a bit deflating but i don't - phrejd MU - 2/8 14:21:05
     sometimes there is just a perfect storm of **** that happens - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/8 14:12:15




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