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you are contradicting yourself. discretion is not part of
Posted on: July 6, 2021 at 10:10:16 CT
pickle
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“law and order”; it goes against “law and order”
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95 people shot in Chicago over the weekend
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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7/6 08:09:46
We have a very large worship problem in the USA.
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MizzouTigerz
MU
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7/6 10:13:30
I didn't see the breakdown of people raised by rejecting
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SparkyStalcup
MU
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7/6 08:47:30
So you believe it's just the way "those people" are?
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tigerfans3
MU
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7/6 09:08:13
That's what 4Tigs is apparently claiming. Nm
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SparkyStalcup
MU
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7/6 09:12:32
Sadly in modern America, they are in far too many places
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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7/6 08:48:18
Statistics bearing that out would help your thesis. Right
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SparkyStalcup
MU
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7/6 08:49:13
RE: Statistics bearing that out would help your thesis. Right
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Tigrrrr!
MU
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7/6 09:45:08
blacks are 13% of the population but commit 54% of violent
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Ragnar Danneskjold
MU
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7/6 08:57:09
They are 54% of arrests, yes. I would bet they commit far
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SparkyStalcup
MU
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7/6 09:11:02
RE: They are 54% of arrests, yes. I would bet they commit far
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Tigrrrr!
MU
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7/6 09:45:27
RE: They are 54% of arrests, yes. I would bet they commit far
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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7/6 09:17:22
He walked himself right into that one(nm)
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Eggs
MU
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7/6 09:21:37
There is well-known bias in crime statistics.
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SparkyStalcup
MU
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7/6 09:21:36
So you can't do it
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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7/6 09:22:30
I just did. Nm
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SparkyStalcup
MU
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7/6 09:24:22
no, you didn't
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Fire Marshall Bill
MU
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7/6 09:41:27
No, you just ignored my evidence. Nm
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SparkyStalcup
MU
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7/6 09:54:49
It's actually higher when you count the crimes committed
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Tigrrrr!
MU
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7/6 09:16:56
It's actually likely far more
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Ragnar Danneskjold
MU
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7/6 09:12:43
Based on what exactly?
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RHAYWORTH
MU
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7/6 09:12:12
More than 70% of black children are born out of wedlock
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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7/6 08:55:07
Sounds like an emotional appeal to me.
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SparkyStalcup
MU
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7/6 09:01:45
If those are the real reasons, and I disagree that they are
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Outsider
MU
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7/6 09:11:15
It takes $$$. Teachers have to be compensated well to
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SparkyStalcup
MU
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7/6 09:18:55
Yes, I am in favor of paying teachers more, as long
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Outsider
MU
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7/6 09:27:01
The damage has been done. America has already signaled that
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SparkyStalcup
MU
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7/6 09:33:29
Why are suburban kids doing much better?
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Outsider
MU
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7/6 09:43:32
Yes, and these schools suffer because first they don't
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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7/6 09:04:35
Poor schools are at the root of many of the problems we see
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Outsider
MU
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7/6 09:14:12
If families in those areas don't value education
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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7/6 09:15:26
RE: If families in those areas don't value education
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Outsider
MU
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7/6 09:23:04
Again, forcing your religious or own personal moral beliefs
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SparkyStalcup
MU
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7/6 09:07:49
It is not my own beliefs - it is proven again and again
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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7/6 09:10:37
So do you want to force people.to.stay married or get
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SparkyStalcup
MU
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7/6 09:16:51
I have not advocated for forcing either
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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7/6 09:18:46
I'm interested to know your proposed solution. Nm
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SparkyStalcup
MU
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7/6 09:24:04
Maybe a better question is what is your proposed
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Outsider
MU
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7/6 09:31:21
Some are simple
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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7/6 09:28:33
So your solution is not education, but to just make these
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SparkyStalcup
MU
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7/6 09:41:51
No, it is to encourage/reward the behaviors that will make
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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7/6 09:44:34
Critical race theory says whites are at fault
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mu7176grad
MU
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7/6 08:43:02
The police state breaks up most of those families
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meatiger
MU
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7/6 08:39:24
Yes, the fact that people don't like the laws is reason not
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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7/6 08:44:58
sounds like a law problem to me
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ashtray
UF
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7/6 09:14:45
So if government banned religion
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meatiger
MU
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7/6 08:51:48
I would not obey it as it is a Constitutionally protected
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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7/6 08:56:02
until the Supreme Court ruled on it, you would obey, though
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ashtray
UF
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7/6 09:18:25
so...
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meatiger
MU
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7/6 08:58:48
Let's stay on topic. You asked about a law forbidding
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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7/6 09:02:56
My point was just an example
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meatiger
MU
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7/6 09:10:51
Again, discretion is part of law and order
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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7/6 09:14:42
you are contradicting yourself. discretion is not part of
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pickle
MU
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7/6 10:10:16
I cannot believe he still backs that argument
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meatiger
MU
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7/6 10:14:27
i can. he is lazy, arrogant, and dishonest
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pickle
MU
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7/6 10:33:42
some people redefine words so they can get attention
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ashtray
UF
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7/6 10:13:01
you just said not liking laws is not an excuse to break them
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meatiger
MU
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7/6 09:17:00
Explain the different discretion used on otherwise similar
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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7/6 09:22:05
I don't understand the question(nm)
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meatiger
MU
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7/6 09:25:20
that's the opposite of law and order
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ashtray
UF
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7/6 09:16:54
he is unprincipled and guided solely by emotion (nm)
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pickle
MU
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7/6 09:13:21
He truly thinks more government can solve problems
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meatiger
MU
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7/6 09:15:01
I am simply asking you to back up your claims
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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7/6 09:16:43
If both people have the ability to make
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meatiger
MU
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7/6 09:17:44
Why do you add conditions?
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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7/6 09:20:56
Without those conditions..it is rape
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meatiger
MU
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7/6 09:24:40
So you attack others who claim people should not be able
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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7/6 09:30:45
this is one hell of a straw man and red herring (nm)
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pickle
MU
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7/6 09:47:05
The difference is
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meatiger
MU
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7/6 09:36:53
I am not saying your position in invalid
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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7/6 09:38:58
the difference is
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meatiger
MU
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7/6 09:44:13
You either lie or are just not very smart
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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7/6 09:47:23
So if there is no age of consent
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meatiger
MU
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7/6 09:58:28
Because you are the one bashing others for denying
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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7/6 10:01:12
It is not "how I see fit"
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meatiger
MU
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7/6 10:03:53
Then tell me your standards
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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7/6 10:28:04
Why must I define the standards?
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meatiger
MU
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7/6 10:33:40
You don't need to
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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7/6 11:05:43
what if it wasn't in the constitution? would you follow the
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SwampTiger
MU
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7/6 09:05:39
I likely would not
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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7/6 09:07:52
It is the system that is leading to the breakup of family
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meatiger
MU
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7/6 09:13:19
why are you bringing violence into it?
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pickle
MU
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7/6 09:12:38
no (nm)
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pickle
MU
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7/6 08:47:44
Don't break the law, don't go to jail.
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Tigrrrr!
MU
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7/6 08:43:14
Police Department under attack
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Tigrrrr!
MU
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7/6 08:30:19
lol no (nm)
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pickle
MU
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7/6 08:42:36
RE: lol no (nm)
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Tigrrrr!
MU
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7/6 08:45:31
that doesn’t support “Police Department under attack”
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pickle
MU
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7/6 08:47:16
argumentative pickle is argumentative.
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Tigrrrr!
MU
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7/6 08:55:51
it’s basic reading comprehension (nm)
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pickle
MU
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7/6 09:11:35
You really are a pathetic POS.
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Tigrrrr!
MU
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7/6 09:15:45
Looking at that picture it’s pretty plain to see
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Outsider
MU
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7/6 08:37:49
Can I get a number of how many were shot by police?
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Tigrrrr!
MU
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7/6 08:21:27
Damn chiraq stepped up, really pumping those numbers
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Ragnar Danneskjold
MU
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7/6 08:11:42