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It is not my own beliefs - it is proven again and again

Posted on: July 6, 2021 at 09:10:37 CT

4TigersinMichigan MU

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Children who come from a two parent home and who get a high school degree avoid poverty and fare much better in life economically and socially. It is a formula that works again and again. And yet in your desire to care about those who ignore it you help condemn them to a life of poverty and often crime.

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95 people shot in Chicago over the weekend - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/6 08:09:46

We have a very large worship problem in the USA. - MizzouTigerz MU

- 7/6 10:13:30

I didn't see the breakdown of people raised by rejecting - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/6 08:47:30

So you believe it's just the way "those people" are? - tigerfans3 MU - 7/6 09:08:13

That's what 4Tigs is apparently claiming. Nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/6 09:12:32

Sadly in modern America, they are in far too many places - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/6 08:48:18

Statistics bearing that out would help your thesis. Right - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/6 08:49:13

RE: Statistics bearing that out would help your thesis. Right - Tigrrrr! MU

- 7/6 09:45:08

blacks are 13% of the population but commit 54% of violent - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 7/6 08:57:09

They are 54% of arrests, yes. I would bet they commit far - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/6 09:11:02

RE: They are 54% of arrests, yes. I would bet they commit far - Tigrrrr! MU

- 7/6 09:45:27

RE: They are 54% of arrests, yes. I would bet they commit far - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/6 09:17:22

He walked himself right into that one(nm) - Eggs MU - 7/6 09:21:37

There is well-known bias in crime statistics. - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/6 09:21:36

So you can't do it - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/6 09:22:30

I just did. Nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/6 09:24:22

no, you didn't - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 7/6 09:41:27

No, you just ignored my evidence. Nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/6 09:54:49

It's actually higher when you count the crimes committed - Tigrrrr! MU

- 7/6 09:16:56

It's actually likely far more - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 7/6 09:12:43

Based on what exactly? - RHAYWORTH MU - 7/6 09:12:12

More than 70% of black children are born out of wedlock - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/6 08:55:07

Sounds like an emotional appeal to me. - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/6 09:01:45

If those are the real reasons, and I disagree that they are - Outsider MU - 7/6 09:11:15

It takes $$$. Teachers have to be compensated well to - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/6 09:18:55

Yes, I am in favor of paying teachers more, as long - Outsider MU - 7/6 09:27:01

The damage has been done. America has already signaled that - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/6 09:33:29

Why are suburban kids doing much better? - Outsider MU - 7/6 09:43:32

Yes, and these schools suffer because first they don't - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/6 09:04:35

Poor schools are at the root of many of the problems we see - Outsider MU - 7/6 09:14:12

If families in those areas don't value education - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/6 09:15:26

RE: If families in those areas don't value education - Outsider MU - 7/6 09:23:04

Again, forcing your religious or own personal moral beliefs - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/6 09:07:49

It is not my own beliefs - it is proven again and again - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/6 09:10:37

So do you want to force people.to.stay married or get - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/6 09:16:51

I have not advocated for forcing either - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/6 09:18:46

I'm interested to know your proposed solution. Nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/6 09:24:04

Maybe a better question is what is your proposed - Outsider MU - 7/6 09:31:21

Some are simple - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/6 09:28:33

So your solution is not education, but to just make these - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/6 09:41:51

No, it is to encourage/reward the behaviors that will make - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/6 09:44:34

Critical race theory says whites are at fault - mu7176grad MU - 7/6 08:43:02

The police state breaks up most of those families - meatiger MU - 7/6 08:39:24

Yes, the fact that people don't like the laws is reason not - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/6 08:44:58

sounds like a law problem to me - ashtray UF - 7/6 09:14:45

So if government banned religion - meatiger MU - 7/6 08:51:48

I would not obey it as it is a Constitutionally protected - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/6 08:56:02

until the Supreme Court ruled on it, you would obey, though - ashtray UF - 7/6 09:18:25

so... - meatiger MU - 7/6 08:58:48

Let's stay on topic. You asked about a law forbidding - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/6 09:02:56

My point was just an example - meatiger MU - 7/6 09:10:51

Again, discretion is part of law and order - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/6 09:14:42

you are contradicting yourself. discretion is not part of - pickle MU

- 7/6 10:10:16

I cannot believe he still backs that argument - meatiger MU - 7/6 10:14:27

i can. he is lazy, arrogant, and dishonest - pickle MU

- 7/6 10:33:42

some people redefine words so they can get attention - ashtray UF - 7/6 10:13:01

you just said not liking laws is not an excuse to break them - meatiger MU - 7/6 09:17:00

Explain the different discretion used on otherwise similar - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/6 09:22:05

I don't understand the question(nm) - meatiger MU - 7/6 09:25:20

that's the opposite of law and order - ashtray UF - 7/6 09:16:54

he is unprincipled and guided solely by emotion (nm) - pickle MU

- 7/6 09:13:21

He truly thinks more government can solve problems - meatiger MU - 7/6 09:15:01

I am simply asking you to back up your claims - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/6 09:16:43

If both people have the ability to make - meatiger MU - 7/6 09:17:44

Why do you add conditions? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/6 09:20:56

Without those conditions..it is rape - meatiger MU - 7/6 09:24:40

So you attack others who claim people should not be able - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/6 09:30:45

this is one hell of a straw man and red herring (nm) - pickle MU

- 7/6 09:47:05

The difference is - meatiger MU - 7/6 09:36:53

I am not saying your position in invalid - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/6 09:38:58

the difference is - meatiger MU - 7/6 09:44:13

You either lie or are just not very smart - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/6 09:47:23

So if there is no age of consent - meatiger MU - 7/6 09:58:28

Because you are the one bashing others for denying - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/6 10:01:12

It is not "how I see fit" - meatiger MU - 7/6 10:03:53

Then tell me your standards - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/6 10:28:04

Why must I define the standards? - meatiger MU - 7/6 10:33:40

You don't need to - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/6 11:05:43

what if it wasn't in the constitution? would you follow the - SwampTiger MU - 7/6 09:05:39

I likely would not - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/6 09:07:52

It is the system that is leading to the breakup of family - meatiger MU - 7/6 09:13:19

why are you bringing violence into it? - pickle MU

- 7/6 09:12:38

no (nm) - pickle MU

- 7/6 08:47:44

Don't break the law, don't go to jail. - Tigrrrr! MU

- 7/6 08:43:14

Police Department under attack - Tigrrrr! MU

- 7/6 08:30:19

lol no (nm) - pickle MU

- 7/6 08:42:36

RE: lol no (nm) - Tigrrrr! MU

- 7/6 08:45:31

that doesn’t support “Police Department under attack” - pickle MU

- 7/6 08:47:16

argumentative pickle is argumentative. - Tigrrrr! MU

- 7/6 08:55:51

it’s basic reading comprehension (nm) - pickle MU

- 7/6 09:11:35

You really are a pathetic POS. - Tigrrrr! MU

- 7/6 09:15:45

Looking at that picture it’s pretty plain to see - Outsider MU - 7/6 08:37:49

Can I get a number of how many were shot by police? - Tigrrrr! MU

- 7/6 08:21:27

Damn chiraq stepped up, really pumping those numbers - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 7/6 08:11:42

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