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The damage has been done. America has already signaled that

Posted on: July 6, 2021 at 09:33:29 CT
SparkyStalcup MU
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they don't value teachers because of the ****ty pay among other things. More people would go into teaching if they knew they didn't have to live in poverty to do it.
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95 people shot in Chicago over the weekend - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/6 08:09:46
     We have a very large worship problem in the USA. - MizzouTigerz MU - 7/6 10:13:30
     I didn't see the breakdown of people raised by rejecting - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/6 08:47:30
          So you believe it's just the way "those people" are? - tigerfans3 MU - 7/6 09:08:13
               That's what 4Tigs is apparently claiming. Nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/6 09:12:32
          Sadly in modern America, they are in far too many places - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/6 08:48:18
               Statistics bearing that out would help your thesis. Right - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/6 08:49:13
                    RE: Statistics bearing that out would help your thesis. Right - Tigrrrr! MU - 7/6 09:45:08
                    blacks are 13% of the population but commit 54% of violent - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 7/6 08:57:09
                         They are 54% of arrests, yes. I would bet they commit far - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/6 09:11:02
                              RE: They are 54% of arrests, yes. I would bet they commit far - Tigrrrr! MU - 7/6 09:45:27
                              RE: They are 54% of arrests, yes. I would bet they commit far - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/6 09:17:22
                                   He walked himself right into that one(nm) - Eggs MU - 7/6 09:21:37
                                   There is well-known bias in crime statistics. - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/6 09:21:36
                                        So you can't do it - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/6 09:22:30
                                             I just did. Nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/6 09:24:22
                                                  no, you didn't - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 7/6 09:41:27
                                                       No, you just ignored my evidence. Nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/6 09:54:49
                              It's actually higher when you count the crimes committed - Tigrrrr! MU - 7/6 09:16:56
                              It's actually likely far more - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 7/6 09:12:43
                              Based on what exactly? - RHAYWORTH MU - 7/6 09:12:12
                    More than 70% of black children are born out of wedlock - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/6 08:55:07
                         Sounds like an emotional appeal to me. - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/6 09:01:45
                              If those are the real reasons, and I disagree that they are - Outsider MU - 7/6 09:11:15
                                   It takes $$$. Teachers have to be compensated well to - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/6 09:18:55
                                        Yes, I am in favor of paying teachers more, as long - Outsider MU - 7/6 09:27:01
                                             The damage has been done. America has already signaled that - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/6 09:33:29
                                                  Why are suburban kids doing much better? - Outsider MU - 7/6 09:43:32
                              Yes, and these schools suffer because first they don't - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/6 09:04:35
                                   Poor schools are at the root of many of the problems we see - Outsider MU - 7/6 09:14:12
                                        If families in those areas don't value education - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/6 09:15:26
                                             RE: If families in those areas don't value education - Outsider MU - 7/6 09:23:04
                                   Again, forcing your religious or own personal moral beliefs - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/6 09:07:49
                                        It is not my own beliefs - it is proven again and again - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/6 09:10:37
                                             So do you want to force people.to.stay married or get - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/6 09:16:51
                                                  I have not advocated for forcing either - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/6 09:18:46
                                                       I'm interested to know your proposed solution. Nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/6 09:24:04
                                                            Maybe a better question is what is your proposed - Outsider MU - 7/6 09:31:21
                                                            Some are simple - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/6 09:28:33
                                                                 So your solution is not education, but to just make these - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/6 09:41:51
                                                                      No, it is to encourage/reward the behaviors that will make - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/6 09:44:34
     Critical race theory says whites are at fault - mu7176grad MU - 7/6 08:43:02
     The police state breaks up most of those families - meatiger MU - 7/6 08:39:24
          Yes, the fact that people don't like the laws is reason not - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/6 08:44:58
               sounds like a law problem to me - ashtray UF - 7/6 09:14:45
               So if government banned religion - meatiger MU - 7/6 08:51:48
                    I would not obey it as it is a Constitutionally protected - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/6 08:56:02
                         until the Supreme Court ruled on it, you would obey, though - ashtray UF - 7/6 09:18:25
                         so... - meatiger MU - 7/6 08:58:48
                              Let's stay on topic. You asked about a law forbidding - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/6 09:02:56
                                   My point was just an example - meatiger MU - 7/6 09:10:51
                                        Again, discretion is part of law and order - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/6 09:14:42
                                             you are contradicting yourself. discretion is not part of - pickle MU - 7/6 10:10:16
                                                  I cannot believe he still backs that argument - meatiger MU - 7/6 10:14:27
                                                       i can. he is lazy, arrogant, and dishonest - pickle MU - 7/6 10:33:42
                                                  some people redefine words so they can get attention - ashtray UF - 7/6 10:13:01
                                             you just said not liking laws is not an excuse to break them - meatiger MU - 7/6 09:17:00
                                                  Explain the different discretion used on otherwise similar - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/6 09:22:05
                                                       I don't understand the question(nm) - meatiger MU - 7/6 09:25:20
                                             that's the opposite of law and order - ashtray UF - 7/6 09:16:54
                                        he is unprincipled and guided solely by emotion (nm) - pickle MU - 7/6 09:13:21
                                             He truly thinks more government can solve problems - meatiger MU - 7/6 09:15:01
                                                  I am simply asking you to back up your claims - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/6 09:16:43
                                                       If both people have the ability to make - meatiger MU - 7/6 09:17:44
                                                            Why do you add conditions? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/6 09:20:56
                                                                 Without those conditions..it is rape - meatiger MU - 7/6 09:24:40
                                                                      So you attack others who claim people should not be able - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/6 09:30:45
                                                                           this is one hell of a straw man and red herring (nm) - pickle MU - 7/6 09:47:05
                                                                           The difference is - meatiger MU - 7/6 09:36:53
                                                                                I am not saying your position in invalid - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/6 09:38:58
                                                                                     the difference is - meatiger MU - 7/6 09:44:13
                                                                                          You either lie or are just not very smart - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/6 09:47:23
                                                                                               So if there is no age of consent - meatiger MU - 7/6 09:58:28
                                                                                                    Because you are the one bashing others for denying - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/6 10:01:12
                                                                                                         It is not "how I see fit" - meatiger MU - 7/6 10:03:53
                                                                                                              Then tell me your standards - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/6 10:28:04
                                                                                                                   Why must I define the standards? - meatiger MU - 7/6 10:33:40
                                                                                                                        You don't need to - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/6 11:05:43
                                   what if it wasn't in the constitution? would you follow the - SwampTiger MU - 7/6 09:05:39
                                        I likely would not - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/6 09:07:52
                                             It is the system that is leading to the breakup of family - meatiger MU - 7/6 09:13:19
                                             why are you bringing violence into it? - pickle MU - 7/6 09:12:38
               no (nm) - pickle MU - 7/6 08:47:44
          Don't break the law, don't go to jail. - Tigrrrr! MU - 7/6 08:43:14
     Police Department under attack - Tigrrrr! MU - 7/6 08:30:19
          lol no (nm) - pickle MU - 7/6 08:42:36
               RE: lol no (nm) - Tigrrrr! MU - 7/6 08:45:31
                    that doesn’t support “Police Department under attack” - pickle MU - 7/6 08:47:16
                         argumentative pickle is argumentative. - Tigrrrr! MU - 7/6 08:55:51
                              it’s basic reading comprehension (nm) - pickle MU - 7/6 09:11:35
                                   You really are a pathetic POS. - Tigrrrr! MU - 7/6 09:15:45
          Looking at that picture it’s pretty plain to see - Outsider MU - 7/6 08:37:49
     Can I get a number of how many were shot by police? - Tigrrrr! MU - 7/6 08:21:27
     Damn chiraq stepped up, really pumping those numbers - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 7/6 08:11:42




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