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Each of you is showing your ignorance of research design

Posted on: December 16, 2020 at 15:27:00 CT

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They aren't interested in total number of deaths. They are aggregating excess deaths. This is SOP for lots of epidemiological questions, one of which is number of excess deaths.

Edited by paleojas at 15:27:20 on 12/16/20

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CDC excessive deaths playing with numbers. - TigerMatt STL - 12/16 14:57:57

RE: CDC excessive deaths playing with numbers. - MOCO SON MU - 12/16 15:58:40

Which is why they're using statistics, not science, - glue MU - 12/16 16:34:33

They're not removing weeks from their calculations - paleojas MU - 12/16 15:19:05

but that isn't how they are selling it, they aren't calling - tigerinhogtown STL - 12/16 15:29:55

Another way to say "total deaths due to COVID" is - paleojas MU - 12/16 15:33:27

The time period isn't a week. - TigerMatt STL - 12/16 17:27:02

but they are totaling only certain weeks. - tigerinhogtown STL - 12/16 15:37:25

RE: but they are totaling only certain weeks. - paleojas MU - 12/16 15:39:28

You should keep getting fired up about it - Sal MU

- 12/16 16:03:50

you can't take weekly data and extrapolate it over 10 months - tigerinhogtown STL - 12/16 15:42:05

You really don't understand what you've been reading... - paleojas MU - 12/16 15:43:14

Or.. say I have a cell phone bill. 2019 it was $200/month - TigerMatt STL - 12/16 16:37:29

Here let me try to explain ii in terms of money. I set an - TigerMatt STL - 12/16 16:11:35

Relax, basic math is hard for some people (nm) - BigDave MU - 12/16 16:39:49

is it your claim that if they took the ave of total deaths - tigerinhogtown STL - 12/16 15:47:14

By treating those weeks as zero, they are statistically - Eggs MU - 12/16 15:24:28

Each of you is showing your ignorance of research design - paleojas MU - 12/16 15:27:00

Where do you think they get excessive death numbers from? - TigerMatt STL - 12/16 15:23:23

Yes you can.... - paleojas MU - 12/16 15:25:53

You explained it well here - Eggs MU - 12/16 15:32:25

This is literally what they say, though... - paleojas MU - 12/16 15:35:23

That is what TigerMatt is arguing (nm) - Sal MU

- 12/16 15:40:35

No it's not. - paleojas MU - 12/16 15:46:12

Yes, he specifically addressed the footnote - Sal MU

- 12/16 15:54:53

Yeah.. excess deaths gets to ignore any non zero numbers - TigerMatt STL - 12/16 16:00:08

In the footnotes - Eggs MU - 12/16 15:40:13

oy... - paleojas MU - 12/16 15:45:30

That would not give an accurate count - Sal MU

- 12/16 15:21:16

Yes it would. It would not give an accurate count of TOTAL - paleojas MU - 12/16 15:23:07

Excess deaths are directly tied to observed deaths. - TigerMatt STL - 12/16 15:34:12

Wrong again. - paleojas MU - 12/16 15:38:08

all those caps, you're really showing him (nm) - Sal MU

- 12/16 15:41:12

Why all the F bombs? You're obviously an educated dude - Eggs MU - 12/16 15:27:19

The f bombs are out of the frustration I see daily when - paleojas MU - 12/16 15:28:36

I understand your frustration. Believe me, I'm frustrated - Eggs MU - 12/16 15:30:02

now kiss(nm) - cnk ATL - 12/16 15:32:28

haha - paleojas MU - 12/16 15:33:50

with masks on, of course(nm) - cnk ATL - 12/16 15:34:26

Combination the CDC and others are feasting on - Eggs MU - 12/16 15:09:33

But the fact that so many people in power - smart people - tiger4real MU - 12/16 15:13:56

Elections are won by doing things for "the greater good" - Eggs MU - 12/16 15:20:26

Being overeducated does not make you smart(nm) - tcat KC - 12/16 15:17:34

No such thing as being overeducated nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 12/16 15:30:08

RE: But the fact that so many people in power - smart people - MUTGR MU - 12/16 15:16:02

I hate to agree in this case, but I think you’re right(nm) - tiger4real MU - 12/16 15:19:56