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RE: so your reasoning says that Fuller was responsible

Posted on: December 28, 2018 at 10:54:26 CT
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Do you think Fuller would have won fewer than 9 games, if he had been the HC? (my $$ is on more than 9).

Kim certainly showed that he was nothing more than a 9 win coach in the ensuing 2 seasons. Had Alden not pushed kim to retain Fuller, Fulford would not have brought Teki to Mizzou.

KJ Walton was the ONLY top 150 player that Kim's staff recruited, who had no ties to the prior staff (i.e. that Kim would have gotten on his own.) Kim was largely recruiting outside of the top 200...of course it's not like he would have done anything with guys like Tilmon & Jontay.
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Steve Shields on recruiting Geist - FIJItiger MU - 12/28 08:23:35
     Toughness and basketball IQ. Rumor is he's basically - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 12/28 08:39:53
          Well done - DevilsAdvocate MU - 12/28 09:20:32
               That's probably how the moran likes his steak too(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 12/28 09:25:54
          If true, that last loser we had "coaching" should have turn - tigerdb MU - 12/28 08:54:10
               we have this conversation every fing day - Jeff85 MU - 12/28 10:40:28
                    Maybe starting with the source instead of a reply would be - tigersfan MU - 12/28 10:56:15
                    In a few more years, Kim's impact on MU basketball will - FIJItiger MU - 12/28 10:46:12
                         He will always be known as the True Son who stepped up - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 12/28 10:56:31
                              That he did. Haith ruined our program. (nm) - go tigers MU - 12/28 16:10:16
                              No, most of the people who hold that perspective will - FIJItiger MU - 12/28 10:58:30
                    true - we have a great coach. - tigerdb MU - 12/28 10:43:57
               Oh do share with us - MNTIGER MU - 12/28 10:13:37
                    27-68 as a HC at Mizzou (.284), with 0 road wins in 3 years. - tigerdb MU - 12/28 10:23:43
                         To your credit - FIJItiger MU - 12/28 10:26:54
                         And you?(nm) - MNTIGER MU - 12/28 10:26:47
                              I've never lost a road game at Mizzou; - tigerdb MU - 12/28 10:37:02
                                   So you've achieved what millions of others have--woo - MNTIGER MU - 12/28 10:49:01
                                        His success at cmsu has no bearing on his record at Mizzou - tigerdb MU - 12/28 10:57:03
                                             RE: His success at cmsu has no bearing on his record at Mizzou - MNTIGER MU - 12/28 11:16:04
                                                  He took us for around $3.5m or so, and ran the program into - tigerdb MU - 12/28 11:26:53
                                                  RE: His success at cmsu has no bearing on his record at Mizzou - FIJItiger MU - 12/28 11:20:15
                                        Just to factually clarify - FIJItiger MU - 12/28 10:56:51
                                             RE: Just to factually clarify, give us a comparison - MNTIGER MU - 12/28 11:21:39
                                                  this belongs on the muleboard.com - tigerdb MU - 12/28 11:28:25
                                                  I don't begrudge him for being promoted considerably - FIJItiger MU - 12/28 11:26:43
               Obviously - chokingmychickenhawk MU - 12/28 09:26:16
                    Why didn't you respond to Ragnar? He is clearly trolling - StaleyTiger MU - 12/28 09:48:57
                    Stating a fact in response to a troll isn't complaining, - tigersfan MU - 12/28 09:45:53
                    Clearly Kim Anderson is no longer the coach! - tigerdb MU - 12/28 09:36:46
               Uh, where do you think Geist learned what he is applying? - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 12/28 08:57:02
                    Geist has played for 2 D1 coaches - Gillispie and - tigerdb MU - 12/28 09:01:44
                         He played for a coach with a Natty and two final fours - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 12/28 09:08:25
                              Kim's a natty light guy(nm) - tigerdb MU - 12/28 09:48:04
                              I know you're trolling but if Kim was an X's & O's coach, - BigSlickTiger MU - 12/28 09:11:58
                                   If Kim was an X's & O's coach, he would have been in huddles - tigerdb MU - 12/28 09:49:22
                                   He was rebuilding a zero-win cratered program - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 12/28 09:18:43
                                        The hypothetical about what a real coach would - FIJItiger MU - 12/28 10:18:23
                                        The level of competition at Mizzou was also an anomaly as - BigSlickTiger MU - 12/28 09:35:31
                                             No doubt the competition was tougher, and add the fact he - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 12/28 09:37:36
                                                  When Kim won 9 games his first year, Mizzou still had - StaleyTiger MU - 12/28 09:47:20
                                                  And even with those 0 wins, he was still 26 wins short of - BigSlickTiger MU - 12/28 09:43:10
                                        Haith was 48 games over .500 during his MU tenure(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 12/28 09:22:47
                                   we will never know - FIJItiger MU - 12/28 09:15:14
                    Geist only played under that staff in 2016-17 - FIJItiger MU - 12/28 09:00:24
               logical conclusion from the given inputs (nm) - lqf2b8 MU - 12/28 08:55:39
          lol(nm) - TigerA MU - 12/28 08:52:02
     lmao Gilliam with the one comment(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 12/28 08:29:02
          Someone needs to respond that Geist was half the player - StaleyTiger MU - 12/28 09:00:39
               The appropriate response would bee that they brought in Geis - tigerdb MU - 12/28 09:05:20
                    Willie Jackson appears like he would have been useful - FIJItiger MU - 12/28 09:07:16
                         Walton was a guy with good potential. A legit - alwaysright MU - 12/28 16:23:35
                         Geist is averaging 13, 4 and 3 on a P6 team - wu-tangtiger MU - 12/28 09:17:38
                              He already listed Geist and Barnett. Puryear has - FIJItiger MU - 12/28 09:20:52
                                   Depends on how you count recruiting classes - wu-tangtiger MU - 12/28 09:31:26
                                        Agree, but for me personally I don't count them - FIJItiger MU - 12/28 09:34:20
                                             Teki was definitely a KA recruit - wu-tangtiger MU - 12/28 09:36:29
                                                  Right, but Fulford was only here because Fuller brought - FIJItiger MU - 12/28 10:12:30
                                                       Both of the Fulford recruits that Haith signed - wu-tangtiger MU - 12/28 10:30:35
                                                  Fuller brought in Fulford. - tigerdb MU - 12/28 09:57:48
                                                       Kim hired Fulford - wu-tangtiger MU - 12/28 10:29:25
                                                            That is silly. Kim had nothing to do with - FIJItiger MU - 12/28 10:34:33
                                                                 so your reasoning says that Fuller was responsible - wu-tangtiger MU - 12/28 10:38:17
                                                                      RE: so your reasoning says that Fuller was responsible - tigerdb MU - 12/28 10:54:26
                                                                      He took alot of that responsibility - FIJItiger MU - 12/28 10:42:44
                                                                           A better option would have been to let Alden - wu-tangtiger MU - 12/28 10:58:08
                                                                                Alden's ultimate fail was chasing painter, instead of - tigerdb MU - 12/28 11:00:20
                                                                                     Chris Mack and a few other coaches were interested - wu-tangtiger MU - 12/28 11:05:09
                                                                                          Think you mean Gregg Marshall, not Painter (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 12/28 11:06:27
                                                                                               Yea it was Marshall that Alden went after - wu-tangtiger MU - 12/28 11:31:54
                                                                                                    He chased Painter first...ended up with Haith out of nowhere - tigerdb MU - 12/28 11:41:11
                                                                                                         Alden had plan B options - wu-tangtiger MU - 12/28 11:50:27
                                                                                                    All of his bb coaching hires were essentially on - FIJItiger MU - 12/28 11:34:45
                                                                                Shutting the program down for 3 years would have been - FIJItiger MU - 12/28 11:00:19
          does his comment mention Kim?(nm) - lqf2b8 MU - 12/28 08:52:30
               Yes. He credits Kim with Geist's current play: - StaleyTiger MU - 12/28 09:01:25
                    That’s not giving KA credit for anything other than - wu-tangtiger MU - 12/28 09:04:28
          I like how Shields profile pick is still MU, while he is - FIJItiger MU - 12/28 08:36:33
               The man can take shots(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 12/28 08:37:34
                    RE: The man can take shots(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 12/28 08:38:26
          lol, what if he is a fiji like troll on twitter. would be - TigerA MU - 12/28 08:30:00
     Geist is the type of player that we would hate if was on a - StaleyTiger MU - 12/28 08:27:55
          RE: Geist is the type of player that we would hate if was on a - oldtgr MU - 12/28 08:51:28
          Agree, he is kind of like a - FIJItiger MU - 12/28 08:33:30




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