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When will the Big 12 implode? And what impact on SEC

Posted on: December 18, 2018 at 12:42:53 CT
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will it have?

The Big 12 Grant of Rights expires in only 6 years. At that point, every team is free to leave the conference without penalty, and another conference can expand and get a new TV contract that encompasses the new market's footprint.

The Big 12 doesn't have any good options for expansion. Nobody is going to leave a current P5 for them. And there are no desirable schools (financially speaking) that move the needle. Adding two or more new schools from the non P5 just cuts into the pie.

The could all band together and stay the pathetic 10 team conference they are. But they will just fall further and further behind the other conferences in television deal and annual revenue. Will Oklahoma and Texas really put up with that?

With that in mind... I think the most likely case is that expansion happens again around the 2025 time-frame and this time, its the end of the Big 12.

There will be Four P4 conferences

SEC, ACC, B1G and PAC

Now... the PAC 12 only has 12... the least amount of schools among the 4 powers.

They are likely to be desperate to land Texas and maybe both Texas and Oklahoma before someone else does.

How should the SEC play this?

In my view Texas is an absolute no starter. Mizzou and A&M and Arkansas all left because of them. And all the SEC school have to know why. They are the antithesis of a conference partner... so I don't care what they appear to add in value, it's not happening.

Oklahoma, other than a few missteps at the end there (i.e, "wallflower"), had been a pretty good conference partner to the Big 8 and then Big 12.

SEC might want to add them. New state, new footprint. They have a huge following in Dallas, Tulsa and Oklahoma City. It would be increasing their exposure to the state of Texas. And they are the greatest Big 8/12 school of all-time, another blue blood, another national title heavy team.

The problem is... is there a 16th team to add that would make Oklahoma worth it? Would they have to expand to 16? Could they make it work at just 15?

Would West Virginia be an option? Would the legislature in Oklahoma force OU to partner with Oklahoma State anywhere they try and land, or will it be every school for themselves?

Or can the SEC stay as is, and just make it work at 14, while our competitor conferences get fat?

Interesting times coming up.

If you are Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State... grab your socks and hose and pull.
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When will the Big 12 implode? And what impact on SEC - North co-co champs MU - 12/18 12:42:53
     If I were the B1G, I would be trying to add.... - JoplinTiger07 MU - 12/18 19:25:08
     Big XII imploding will most likely lower the SEC's status - ScottsdaleTiger MU - 12/18 18:57:00
          agreed, but if it results in KU being relegated to a - JoplinTiger07 MU - 12/18 19:07:51
     SEC doesn't want OU - restore the roar MU - 12/18 15:48:32
          The SEC would certainly take OU by itself, and might even - JoplinTiger07 MU - 12/18 19:11:32
          But OU says they have an offer? - Roberts MU - 12/18 16:25:30
          OU with back2back heisman winners and cfp ... - tmcats KSU - 12/18 15:58:43
          True conservative (nm) - TigerMatt MU - 12/18 18:35:34
          Great idea Comrade - StlOx MU - 12/18 15:55:11
     Genuine question: How can we have four 16 team conferences - kcnorthside KC - 12/18 15:03:18
          Georgia Tech is already in the ACC(nm) - Zamboni STL - 12/18 15:43:07
               Yep. Derp. So that's one less. (nm) - kcnorthside KC - 12/18 16:07:52
          Agree... I didn't say they wouldn't be, just that they.. - North co-co champs MU - 12/18 15:13:47
               Ah. Yes, I did sort of project others' opinions on you. - kcnorthside KC - 12/18 15:25:16
     RE: When will the Big 12 implode? And what impact on SEC - MOCO SON MU - 12/18 14:39:31
          T Boone is actually 90 years old - STRIPES - 12/18 15:04:51
     There are a lot of ways to look at conference expansion. I - Ozland Tiger LSU - 12/18 13:32:02
          TV ad revenue drives re-alignment, not the CFP - ScottsdaleTiger MU - 12/18 19:07:19
          You are probably right. If this does happen, it could - North co-co champs MU - 12/18 13:56:21
               It is the playoffs that drive content and especially money. - Ozland Tiger LSU - 12/18 14:04:43
                    sec and b10 aren't going to let that happen(nm) - tmcats KSU - 12/18 14:14:58
                         I realize hindsight is 20/20. But did you think at the time - Ozland Tiger LSU - 12/18 14:31:40
                              No, because he thought Mizzou would never have an option - doughboy MU - 12/18 15:52:51
                                   ku called Mizzou begging us to stay (nm) - pickle MU - 12/18 17:53:01
                                        That was after they tried to get Mizzou - doughboy MU - 12/19 09:23:07
                              no, particularly nebraska and missouri ... - tmcats KSU - 12/18 15:43:03
                                   what Big XII tradition??? - pickle MU - 12/18 17:51:58
                              Of course he didn't - FootballRefugee MU - 12/18 15:13:11
                              Not tmcats, but as I remember it, it started with the - North co-co champs MU - 12/18 14:43:35
     MU will finally get to the Big 10 by 2025. Tried twice...... - ClassicTiger MU - 12/18 13:00:25
          That really is a misinterpretation in my opinion... the fact - North co-co champs MU - 12/18 13:47:14
          We're sitting in the middle of a gold mine - samclemens MU - 12/18 13:07:17
               It's just a few STL people who associate their city - Eggs MU - 12/18 13:17:54
                    RE: Uh....I'm quite sure I passed geography, because STL IS - Stewart SLU - 12/18 15:40:43
                         Stl is East wanna be's. No doubt about it.(nm) - ROLLATIGER MU - 12/18 22:03:45
                         RE: Uh....I'm quite sure I passed geography, because STL IS - Stewart SLU - 12/18 15:41:16
                    Hell. Home is the Big 6. **** those Okie Aggies(nm) - dangertim MU - 12/18 13:29:38
          lol. Classic ClassicTiger(nm) - dangertim MU - 12/18 13:06:50
          ClassicCluelessness - Gary P. MU - 12/18 13:03:57
          LMFAO(nm) - Eggs MU - 12/18 13:00:47
               Its where they belong. Nm - ClassicTiger MU - 12/18 13:02:07
                    "they"?(nm) - Mizzmi27 MU - 12/18 15:33:55
                         Indeed. - Gary P. MU - 12/18 22:15:48
                    No (nm) - pickle MU - 12/18 13:13:26
                    We’re home. - Gary P. MU - 12/18 13:04:28
                    No, it isn't - Eggs MU - 12/18 13:04:08
                         Maybe dude thinks MU is close to Rutgers. (nm) - Newcatbirdseat MU - 12/18 13:05:43
                              Rutgers, Maryland, Penn St., Michigan, Michigan St., - Eggs MU - 12/18 13:20:13
                                   RE: Rutgers, Maryland, Penn St., Michigan, Michigan St., - Stewart SLU - 12/18 15:45:00
     Texas wouldn't have individual power in the SEC - Eggs MU - 12/18 12:54:18
          Nobody adds 2 schools from the same state - Roberts MU - 12/18 16:27:40
          I'd be happy with Oklahoma State... they have become a - North co-co champs MU - 12/18 14:12:11
          Oklahoma has talked to the SEC about expansion. Biggest - Ozland Tiger LSU - 12/18 13:37:12
          SEC wouldnt want 2 schools from the same market area, nm - MU-TULSA MU - 12/18 13:20:32
               Agree - Could keep SEC from expanding - StlOx MU - 12/18 13:40:17
                    I don't think the SEC will ever put on the table to - Ozland Tiger LSU - 12/18 13:57:41
                         I had no idea that happened in 1992. I just knew - North co-co champs MU - 12/18 14:48:42
                         But it's not 1992 anymore - pickle MU - 12/18 14:48:37
                              But it's not 2012 either - StlOx MU - 12/18 15:47:20
                              Got to be unanimous by all SEC members. Everyone has - Ozland Tiger LSU - 12/18 14:55:12
                                   SEC requires unanimous? - Roberts MU - 12/18 16:29:40
                                   rules can be changed - Jeff85 MU - 12/18 16:12:19
                                   I don't, either - pickle MU - 12/18 14:57:44
                                        Me too, pickle - redngray MU - 12/18 15:16:52
               i bet the SEC would take Louisville and Clemson - pickle MU - 12/18 13:26:15
                    Clemson and Florida State have already been on the table. - Ozland Tiger LSU - 12/18 13:42:19
                    No, they would take UNC and Virginia(nm) - tman MU - 12/18 13:28:37
                         The SEC if they had their way would prefer to take a team - Ozland Tiger LSU - 12/18 13:44:05
                         do you ever read posts? (nm) - pickle MU - 12/18 13:39:52
          that would suck (nm) - pickle MU - 12/18 13:14:29
          And contrary to popular opinion on the board - Eggs MU - 12/18 13:00:32
               RE: And contrary to popular opinion on the board - RoaringTiger MU - 12/18 14:57:13
               they'll form a new league with Memphis, et al (nm) - pickle MU - 12/18 13:15:36
                    Yup, it will be an AAC/MWC/Big 12 leftovers blend - Eggs MU - 12/18 13:18:35




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