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I agree, and I think the point that many fans are trying

Posted on: October 2, 2018 at 21:36:49 CT
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to make is that they want us to recruit to a level where that is no longer the situation. Many of them are just bad at making their points.

I look at it a couple of different parts. When I talk about recruiting, I think of bringing in HS kids.
Martin has shown the ability to assemble a competent roster at this point. He needs to improve in recruiting. His transfer game looks pretty good, and i realize that many think of that as part of recruiting...and it is in a way. But his HS recruiting needs to improve so that his transfer game is a near non-issue.

As I noted in an earlier thread, it's too early to make a call on the '19 class like some seem to want to do.
But, for example....McKinney is a nice piece. If McKinney is the headliner, it's a poor class.

Edited by alwaysright at 21:37:14 on 10/02/18
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I see the Cuonzo bashing has already started on Power - TheWildcat STL - 10/2 14:06:54
     The same hype which led to sold out season tickets - alstl MU - 10/3 08:59:35
          A little more perspective should be applied using that - longtimereader MU - 10/3 13:58:07
          he’s never stayed at a school past the rebuild stage - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/3 09:58:16
               By season 3 he will have built the deepest roster - jlbomega MU - 10/3 11:59:41
     Well, he's had a year to win a National Championship so... - XRob MU - 10/2 22:40:41
     So a pay site that's begging for subscribers is no... - MOOZOO MU - 10/2 21:28:02
          Yeah, but posters there look down their nose at TB.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 10/2 22:38:50
     He's not doing as poorly as some are freaking out about, but - alwaysright MU - 10/2 20:47:15
          Outside of Watson the 2018 class is full of guys - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/2 21:28:31
               I agree, and I think the point that many fans are trying - alwaysright MU - 10/2 21:36:49
                    It would seem recruiting should get somewhat easier in the - tigersfan MU - 10/3 07:08:58
                         That smoke was cleared in less than 12 months. It's gone. - alwaysright MU - 10/3 07:17:38
                              No, this was at minimum a 3 year rebuild - FIJItiger MU - 10/3 09:42:47
                                   Glad to see you're missing the coversation. - alwaysright MU - 10/4 06:55:53
                                   Lol... Maybe the dumbest thing I have read this - Fraud MU - 10/3 11:53:42
                                        Don't rule it out. 3 years into his tenure it is still - FIJItiger MU - 10/3 11:54:37
                                             First off how do you pull 3 out of that wisdom - Fraud MU - 10/3 11:56:54
                                                  That is a feasible amount of time to recover from the - FIJItiger MU - 10/3 13:21:42
                    From my point of view - longtimereader MU - 10/2 22:12:45
                         Odom gets killed for recruiting rankings - Jeff85 MU - 10/2 23:38:23
                              Odom has been here longer, and he hasn't gained - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 10/3 08:21:11
                                   Odom’s in field performance the first 1.5 years - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/3 08:44:26
                                        That's true. One reason so many overlooked the recruiting - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 10/3 09:08:44
                         My question about Cuonzo when he was hired was offense - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/2 22:37:30
                              That would be the same for me too - longtimereader MU - 10/3 13:31:11
                    I consider both Smiths to be part of the 19 class - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/2 21:46:58
                         I don't disagree on any of these points. - alwaysright MU - 10/3 07:12:34
                         It's not just the way you do it, they are ranked as 19 - longtimereader MU - 10/2 22:25:23
     Most MU fans are pleased with the job CM has done so far. (nm) - myself MU - 10/2 18:17:03
          I don’t know any that aren’t happy - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/2 20:07:13
               You consider an 8 seed a bubble team? - longtimereader MU - 10/2 20:59:40
                    yes, Mizzou was clearly on the bubble with about 3 games - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/2 21:26:46
                         That's basketball my man and the excitement of the game - longtimereader MU - 10/2 21:41:30
                              I have been very pleased with the job Cuonzo has done - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/2 21:49:17
     Loser fan base. Bunch of Fugi-Sues(nm) - TigerFan92 MU - 10/2 16:54:43
     My lord this thread is sad(nm) - DevilsAdvocate MU - 10/2 16:46:01
          #notgood - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 10/2 16:48:06
     RE: I see the Cuonzo bashing has already started on Power - RNcaud MU - 10/2 16:30:51
     Some people just need something to talk about (nm) - longtimereader MU - 10/2 16:27:31
     This class did not turn out like I would have liked - Mizzmi27 MU - 10/2 16:17:02
          I really look at as the Mark Smith & Dru Smith class - - tigerdb MU - 10/2 17:25:51
     They lack proper (or possibly any) context - FIJItiger MU - 10/2 15:34:56
     Meh...CCM is a big boy. He can handle it. - SuperTone MU - 10/2 14:22:21
          He took a team that won 8 games and went to the tournament - jlbomega MU - 10/2 18:44:55
          He has exceeded the hype. He inherited an 8-win team and - StaleyTiger MU - 10/2 16:09:02
          Man, this thread went terribly for you.(nm) - kcnorthside KC - 10/2 15:29:02
          The seat is as cool as it could be possibly be right now (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 10/2 14:22:54
               which is why the seat is only going to get hotter.(nm) - SuperTone MU - 10/2 14:23:46
                    Or it can remain cool(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 10/2 14:24:15
                         see OP. Already warming.(nm) - SuperTone MU - 10/2 14:25:19
                              A few morans bashing does not=seat warming up - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 10/2 14:43:52
                                   feej has already awarded strike 2 - Jeff85 MU - 10/2 21:07:30
                              Lol no (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 10/2 14:25:39
                                   Oh...so it is positive talk on PM - SuperTone MU - 10/2 14:26:29
                                        Oh just DJ. You'd think he'd like Cuonzo being that they're - TheWildcat STL - 10/2 14:27:29
                                             I said it the day CCM was hired..... - SuperTone MU - 10/2 14:32:54
                                                  We have signed 3 4 star players from STL in the last - TheWildcat STL - 10/2 14:34:18
                                                       "solved" is a big stretch. - alwaysright MU - 10/3 06:44:30
                                                       Sorry but 4* players are nothing in college basketball - SuperTone MU - 10/2 14:39:45
                                                            RE: Sorry but 4* players are nothing in college basketball - Jmill88 MU - 10/2 17:33:14
                                                            RE: Sorry but 4* players are nothing in college basketball - Big Ray 2 USA - 10/2 15:25:56
                                                                 He is wrong throughout the entire thread if you want to save - TheWildcat STL - 10/2 15:31:53
                                                            No program consistently keeps in-state 5* talent - Domino MU - 10/2 14:42:55
                                                            There hasn't been one to pull so he's not missed on a single - TheWildcat STL - 10/2 14:40:13
                                                                 Wildcat 1 SuperTone 0 - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 10/2 14:42:12
                                                                 So then these are the same as we have always got - SuperTone MU - 10/2 14:41:30
                                                                      RE: So then these are the same as we have always got - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 10/2 14:44:25
                                                                      Cuonzo got more 4* players from STL than KA, Haith, Anderson - TheWildcat STL - 10/2 14:42:40
                                                                           this isn't going well for SuperTone - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 10/2 14:44:06
                                                                           opps(nm) - NWMizzouFan MU - 10/2 14:43:53
                                                                                4* kids from STL are not new to Mizzou. (nm) - SuperTone MU - 10/2 14:47:01
                                                                                     In the last 20 years, Grimes and Mckinney. Since Cuonzo, - TheWildcat STL - 10/2 14:48:22
                                                                                          Thank you for proving my point.(nm) - SuperTone MU - 10/2 14:50:40
                                                                                               I just proved mine. We've got more since he's been here than - TheWildcat STL - 10/2 14:51:23
                                                                                                    where did I disput that? I have said 4* aren't enough - SuperTone MU - 10/2 14:51:56
                                                                                                         Yea, before him we averaged .1 4 star players per year. - TheWildcat STL - 10/2 14:53:22
                                                                                                              4* kids aren't enough, period. Even if we land 5 of them - SuperTone MU - 10/2 14:55:13
                                                                                                                   You better check Villanova's recruiting over the last - TheWildcat STL - 10/2 14:56:17
                                                                                                                        They have a much better coach. I'd love to have someone - SuperTone MU - 10/2 14:57:57
                                                                                                                             Everyone but maybe Duke and Kentucky would love - TheWildcat STL - 10/2 14:59:15
                                                                                                                                  and 10 or so is still a solid number.(nm) - SuperTone MU - 10/2 15:04:03
                                                                                                                                       Cuonzo has 2 5 stars in 1 full season at MU and Tilmon - TheWildcat STL - 10/2 15:06:44
                                                                                                                                            Surely you recognize that there were unusual circumstances - alwaysright MU - 10/3 06:47:20
                                                                                          And that's not counting Mark Smith since he's a transfer (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 10/2 14:48:49




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