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Treason in a vacuum isn't the issue.

Posted on: August 18, 2017 at 14:02:12 CT
zodiac6 JC
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Treason against the United States is.

Freedom fighter vs. terrorist depends on whose side you're on. Lee was not on America's side.

There are naturally a lot of gray areas. That's a discussion that belongs in history books and museums, though, not public monuments.
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Are you for or against the removal of confederate statues? - KCT-BoneTiger A - 8/18 11:52:39
     I think that - o'lineydisciple MU - 8/18 13:48:29
     RE: Are you for or against the removal of confederate statues? - colonel angus beef KC - 8/18 13:14:37
     Who the hell has time to care about these types of "issues" - ripzou KC - 8/18 12:31:20
          Probably took a minute to type up his post - Hickeytime MU - 8/18 13:12:32
          These are distractions to keep you from focusing on the - HandBanana MU - 8/18 12:47:59
          Steve Bannon did, because it feeds Breitbart site traffic - McMuffin MU - 8/18 12:37:41
     Opposed to the destruction of history - Tptiger MU - 8/18 12:31:15
          exactly, should we get rid of the holocaust museum - showme NWMSU - 8/18 13:39:54
     If the only reason is because of the slavery association - McMuffin MU - 8/18 12:27:52
          Their status as slave owners is not the only reason. - zodiac6 JC - 8/18 12:38:32
          Playing devil's advocate, the problem with that argument - TigerNuts KC - 8/18 12:37:09
               All Revolutionary War participants were defending slavery - McMuffin MU - 8/18 12:45:01
                    Lee never owned any slaves(nm) - NWMizzouFan MU - 8/18 12:56:01
                         He most certainly did - Grasslands MU - 8/18 13:19:44
                         There's a lot of debate on Lee's views on slavery - McMuffin MU - 8/18 13:12:00
                              Soldiers under his command captured free blacks to sell as - zodiac6 JC - 8/18 13:17:02
                                   He also privately opposed the Confederacy early on - McMuffin MU - 8/18 13:23:56
                                        So he was, at best, a flip flopper who flipped to treason. - zodiac6 JC - 8/18 13:30:26
                                             Well George Washington flipped to treason against Britain - McMuffin MU - 8/18 13:36:12
                                                  Treason in a vacuum isn't the issue. - zodiac6 JC - 8/18 14:02:12
                                                       The United States didn't exist then - McMuffin MU - 8/18 14:10:14
                                                            No, it didn't exist. He made it exist. - zodiac6 JC - 8/18 14:17:31
                                                                 Washington as President could have tried to ban slavery - McMuffin MU - 8/18 14:24:18
                                                                      K.(nm) - zodiac6 JC - 8/18 15:06:41
          i know i learned my history from statues - TigerwTLP MU - 8/18 12:31:58
          opps...(nm) - Ken Bone STL - 8/18 12:29:28
          Opps - Zeaux MWSC - 8/18 12:28:55
               opps...(nm) - McMuffin MU - 8/18 12:29:51
     against it - SEC_BIG_GAMEHUNTER SEC - 8/18 12:26:01
          what if people were removing gay statues? You'd be ecstatic(nm) - tigersknowbest MU - 8/18 12:29:42
               lol...are there many gay statues?(nm) - SEC_BIG_GAMEHUNTER SEC - 8/18 12:30:44
                    you think David's penis is front & center on accident? - TigerwTLP MU - 8/18 12:33:41
                         people having penises in the same room as other penises - colonel angus beef KC - 8/18 13:23:36
                         David not here, man(nm) - Eggs MU - 8/18 12:39:50
                    hypothetically, you gay(nm) - tigersknowbest MU - 8/18 12:32:26
                         how am i gay? you brought up gays - SEC_BIG_GAMEHUNTER SEC - 8/18 12:38:10
                              for Jennifer Lawrence I am. Why so defensive?!(nm) - tigersknowbest MU - 8/18 12:41:30
                                   oh my(nm) - SEC_BIG_GAMEHUNTER SEC - 8/18 12:52:33
                                        are you uncomfortable by this?(nm) - tigersknowbest MU - 8/18 12:56:47
                                             he just started rocking back and forth reading his bible - colonel angus beef KC - 8/18 13:09:17
                    1. Statue of Liberty 2. Abraham Lincoln - dangertim MU - 8/18 12:32:01
                         there is a statue of my Mom?(nm) - SEC_BIG_GAMEHUNTER SEC - 8/18 12:37:40
     I'm for the removal - Zeaux MWSC - 8/18 12:15:45
     I'm in favor of letting the public decide. - zodiac6 JC - 8/18 12:12:35
     i for them being brought to life and taking over the - SabertoothTiger MU - 8/18 12:08:47
     thoroughly indifferent(nm) - MizzouAstro MU - 8/18 12:07:37
     personally don't care - JG MU - 8/18 11:58:07
     I think they should be moved to one location - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 8/18 11:56:14
     I dont really give many sh*ts but I am more in favor of - hefeweizen MU - 8/18 11:56:05
          if those plaques are privately funded that would be a - MizzouAstro MU - 8/18 12:08:07
          Thank you.(nm) - Fool on the Hill MU - 8/18 12:00:29
     Couldn't really care either way. nm - Nebraska99 STL - 8/18 11:55:10
          List of Missouri confederate monuments and spaces - KCT-BoneTiger A - 8/18 12:07:01




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