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i can give you some guidelines. most agencies fall into 1 of

Posted on: February 13, 2017 at 14:44:01 CT
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either they chase everything or they chase for violent felonies and/or when exigent circumstances exist.

as an example Independence MO police will chase for anything. KCMO police will only chase under the more restrictive parameters.

car chases are dangerous (but very fun :) ) but just anecdotally i don't feel like Independence gets in accidents at any higher rate. i dont have figures on hand to prove this but i think i'm on point based on my experience.

i can't find the study but LA county examinded chases one time and it was something like 70% of the motorists they chased ended up being charged for a felony other than the felony eluding. maybe it was even higher than 70% now that i think about it. i just recall it being a lot. so more often than not they are running for some reason unrelated to just running for the hell of it or b/c they got scared or something.

in theory the more restrictive parameters keeps your agency out of lawsuits. in my experience cops are cops and its very difficult to tell them not to chase. they will disregard chasing but sort of follow the bad guy or a lot of times it happens that you do stop and the bad guy ends up circling around in their attempt to elude and crosses paths with you anyway. and when bad things happen under those circumstances you are out of policy. so even though you're well within state policy you are violating your agency's policy and set yourself up for lawsuits.

also as a consequence bad guys often know the rules too. and there are cars that get chased briefly every night. it's a cat and mouse game and in my opinion is more dangerous than just chasing him once and catching him instead of doing it every night for short periods of time.

as a side note, meatiger doesn't have any idea what he's talking about.
we have been through this over and over. but the police are and have always been a paramilitary organization. their uniforms and weapons have always mimicked that of the military. and as the suspect's firepower has increased so has the need for the police to protect themselves.

most officers still carry just a pistol like they always have. you're literally *****ing about things that "look" a certain way that are designed to protect the officer or make their job easier or more comfortable.

Edited by blake1771 at 14:45:43 on 02/13/17
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     Evading arrest, Obstructing justice. - Alferd Packer MU - 2/13 14:34:05
     You know the context (nm) - pickle MU - 2/13 14:14:01
          I don't. what is the context? (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 2/13 14:15:10
               RE: I don't. what is the context? (nm) - pickle MU - 2/13 14:28:37
                    It depends on the context - Sal KC - 2/13 14:31:58
                         It is not evidence of a crime regardless of context (nm) - pickle MU - 2/13 14:55:52
                              lol(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 2/13 14:59:10
                         correct and if you found stolen goods on him - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 2/13 14:34:37
                              absolutely (nm) - Sal KC - 2/13 14:38:54
                    i'm not even addressing that statement, thanks. - 90Tiger MU - 2/13 14:31:56
                         You addressed it in your edit (nm) - pickle MU - 2/13 14:33:12
                              RE: You addressed it in your edit (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 2/13 14:39:29
     What did I miss? (nm) - Sal KC - 2/13 14:14:00
     The problem is that - meatiger MU - 2/13 14:13:57
          "racially profiles" - Alferd Packer MU - 2/13 14:40:44
               That to an officer driving down Martin Luther King Drive - Tigrrrr! MU - 2/13 14:43:29
          Cop can detain and question if he thinks there is reason to. - Alferd Packer MU - 2/13 14:39:27
          again, you say much and don't answer. can you try to - 90Tiger MU - 2/13 14:16:04
               He answered (nm) - pickle MU - 2/13 14:20:32
                    he didn't. what is the context of the "you can' run - 90Tiger MU - 2/13 14:22:29
                         i can give you some guidelines. most agencies fall into 1 of - blake1771 KC - 2/13 14:44:01
                              Most fun pursuit I ever had.... - Tigrrrr! MU - 2/13 15:03:39
                                   My bro-in-law dispatched on which started at - Tigrrrr! MU - 2/13 15:17:31
                              Wow (nm) - pickle MU - 2/13 14:56:31
                         He did right here: - pickle MU - 2/13 14:26:36
                              thanks, i lost that in the dissertation. Hope you'll addres - 90Tiger MU - 2/13 14:28:13
                                   LOL..it was the first thing I wrote(nm) - meatiger MU - 2/13 14:34:17
                         RE: he didn't. what is the context of the "you can' run - meatiger MU - 2/13 14:23:44
                              Thanks for the answer, I appreciate it. So if there is a - 90Tiger MU - 2/13 14:27:09
                                   I don't know the exact answer - meatiger MU - 2/13 14:33:48
                                        how can a cop know if the chase will "vastly increase the - 90Tiger MU - 2/13 14:38:57
                                             I get your point - meatiger MU - 2/13 14:41:54
                                                  but if you make it law that you can just run away, what - 90Tiger MU - 2/13 14:43:00
                                                       On a temporary basis sure - meatiger MU - 2/13 14:46:04
               your question is dumb - meatiger MU - 2/13 14:17:32
                    I didn't even ask a yes/no question, JFC, meat. (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 2/13 14:19:03
          If somebody is running - Sal KC - 2/13 14:15:01
               Wow. THIS is the problem. - pickle MU - 2/13 14:21:20
               If someone won't release their tax returns - JayHoaxH8r MU - 2/13 14:20:31
                    that seems comparable (nm) - Sal KC - 2/13 14:21:23
                         comparably stupid, yes. (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 2/13 14:24:49
               jesus (nm) - TigerwTLP MU - 2/13 14:18:55
               absolutely idiotic thinking, sorry, Sal. Just horrific - 90Tiger MU - 2/13 14:16:43
                    So if I make a traffic stop and somebody runs - Sal KC - 2/13 14:20:58
                         this is the exact nature of my follow up post which pickle - 90Tiger MU - 2/13 14:32:28
                         Were you trained to believe them guilty? (nm) - pickle MU - 2/13 14:22:04
                              They are breaking the law by running (nm) - Sal KC - 2/13 14:22:40
                                   Holy **** (nm) - pickle MU - 2/13 14:32:22
                                        If they run from a traffic stop? - Sal KC - 2/13 14:35:34
                                             That is amazing - meatiger MU - 2/13 14:50:32
                                                  What? (nm) - Sal KC - 2/13 14:57:31
                                                       RE: What? (nm) - meatiger MU - 2/13 14:58:38
                                                            Do you understand the context of a traffic stop? (nm) - Sal KC - 2/13 14:59:41
                                        So now we are back to my new point. If Sal witnesses - 90Tiger MU - 2/13 14:34:58
                                             At that point - meatiger MU - 2/13 14:39:53
                                                  What do you think will happen when the new policy of - 90Tiger MU - 2/13 14:41:51
                                                       I believe many cities/states - meatiger MU - 2/13 14:45:09
                                   LOL - meatiger MU - 2/13 14:24:35
                                        Do you think people should be allowed - Sal KC - 2/13 14:28:03
                                             well...police pick and choose which laws they will enforce - meatiger MU - 2/13 14:38:10
                                                  you don't know what stop and frisk is. do yourself a favor - blake1771 KC - 2/13 15:09:28
                                                  you didn't answer his question (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 2/13 14:40:21
                                                       RE: you didn't answer his question (nm) - meatiger MU - 2/13 14:42:41
                                                            you didn't answer his question (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 2/13 14:43:24
                                             Were you trained to believe someone running is guilty? - pickle MU - 2/13 14:35:15
                                                  IL vs Wardlow. read it. - blake1771 KC - 2/13 14:50:06
                                                  That is an extremely broad question - Sal KC - 2/13 14:44:44
                                                       Answer the question, please (nm) - pickle MU - 2/13 14:53:36
                                                  non sequitur (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 2/13 14:42:12
                                        "i'm arresting you" - TigerwTLP MU - 2/13 14:25:44
                                             there must be an underlying charge. - blake1771 KC - 2/13 15:42:29
               so you should draw your gun - meatiger MU - 2/13 14:16:17
                    I never once said you should automatically draw your gun (nm) - Sal KC - 2/13 14:17:15
     can you provide me with your definition of "evidence"? - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 2/13 14:11:30
          evidence - facts that lead to a conclusion, that kind - 90Tiger MU - 2/13 14:19:55
               ok close enough - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 2/13 14:25:33




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