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I thought you said you know the Constitution?
Posted on: December 16, 2016 at 10:39:21 CT
pickle
MU
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The Constitution doesn't grant rights
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From Aug. 2013
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pickle
MU
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12/16 08:50:07
Irony is TB posters crying about Obamacare and Health
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90Tiger
MU
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12/16 09:56:01
I didn't argue that education is a right because
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Spanky
KU
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12/16 11:14:04
That doesn't explain anything (nm)
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pickle
MU
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12/16 11:36:03
Because you didn't get an education, apparently.
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Spanky
KU
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12/16 12:19:05
Because that is not the purpose of the article
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pickle
MU
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12/16 13:50:27
I am a constitutionalist. education is mentioned by name
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DHighlander
KC
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12/16 10:38:41
lmfao (nm)
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90Tiger
MU
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12/16 11:30:50
You are no constitutionalist (nm)
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pickle
MU
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12/16 10:48:53
You presented no rebuttal to Spanky's claim.
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GA Tiger
MU
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12/16 09:36:21
The state doesn't give anyone the "right" to be educated
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ummmm
MU
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12/16 09:39:54
GA, no offense, but you just expressed that you don't
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90Tiger
MU
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12/16 09:38:22
I call it a right because it falls within ANY definition in
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GA Tiger
MU
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12/16 09:41:22
Force is all over state education - compliance with standard
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90Tiger
MU
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12/16 09:43:20
You call it a right
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pickle
MU
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12/16 09:42:51
You accuse us of the logical fallacy of appealing to
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DHighlander
KC
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12/16 09:52:37
I'm not arguing an appeal to authority
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pickle
MU
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12/16 09:57:59
You tell everyone to think but offer absolutely nothing in
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DHighlander
KC
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12/16 10:07:04
I'm not sure you can see my posts, but
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SwampTiger
MU
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12/16 10:12:59
I don't disagree with any of it. But without the first
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DHighlander
KC
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12/16 10:20:40
it doesn't sound like you agree with it
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SwampTiger
MU
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12/16 10:28:27
No it claims that they believe that there are inalienable
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DHighlander
KC
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12/16 10:54:19
I think I have a concussion
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SwampTiger
MU
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12/16 10:58:06
How is "We Hold" anything but an opinion?
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DHighlander
KC
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12/16 11:17:34
"truths"
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SwampTiger
MU
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12/16 11:53:39
Wow (nm)
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pickle
MU
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12/16 11:29:27
Those seven words do not support your argument
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pickle
MU
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12/16 10:26:08
Oh, my. (nm)
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pickle
MU
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12/16 10:11:51
Where does the right to education begin and where does it
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ummmm
MU
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12/16 09:42:16
The entire post is not only a rebuttal
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pickle
MU
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12/16 09:38:16
As a Constitutional Republic every state has decided that a
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DHighlander
KC
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12/16 09:28:34
Do you have a right to drive, or is it a privelege?
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tman
KC
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12/16 10:10:35
It's a right (nm)
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pickle
MU
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12/16 10:38:04
Nothing in the Constitution gives me that right. But the
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DHighlander
KC
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12/16 10:23:45
I thought you said you know the Constitution?
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pickle
MU
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12/16 10:39:21
No, the constitution identifies rights that it guarantees.
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DHighlander
KC
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12/16 11:07:49
Using your framework, rights come and go based on what
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90Tiger
MU
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12/16 09:41:51
Thank you for making my point. As I have said multiple
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DHighlander
KC
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12/16 09:49:56
That is frankly untrue
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ummmm
MU
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12/16 09:53:58
Because the right that I claim has the backing of every
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DHighlander
KC
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12/16 09:56:57
DH - none of the things you are calling a right is
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90Tiger
MU
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12/16 10:23:49
Every state constitution guarantees the right to a
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DHighlander
KC
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12/16 10:31:57
Holy **** (nm)
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pickle
MU
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12/16 10:52:56
No, they don't. Every state has laws of force
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ummmm
MU
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12/16 10:38:30
It is not possible to have meaningful discussions with
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DHighlander
KC
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12/16 10:45:56
DH - you need to unlearn everything you think you kno
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90Tiger
MU
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12/16 11:31:43
Awesome (nm)
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pickle
MU
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12/16 10:54:09
That governments are not going anywhere is a non-sequitur
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ummmm
MU
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12/16 10:50:44
I hate to say it
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pickle
MU
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12/16 10:56:23
agree (nm)
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90Tiger
MU
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12/16 11:32:38
But it is not a right. You recognize that it can be taken
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ummmm
MU
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12/16 10:00:11
That is a totally unsupportable claim. If you wish to put
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DHighlander
KC
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12/16 10:13:35
No, you cannot claim anything as a natural right.
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ummmm
MU
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12/16 10:23:54
If something comes from logical deduction then the proof of
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DHighlander
KC
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12/16 11:22:46
RE: That is a totally unsupportable claim. If you wish to put
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pickle
MU
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12/16 10:18:19
You claim to have given reasoned arguments for what rights
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DHighlander
KC
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12/16 10:27:20
"What evidence do you have for that claim?"
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pickle
MU
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12/16 12:59:29
Please answer his question (nm)
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pickle
MU
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12/16 09:59:05
You operate under this strange belief
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pickle
MU
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12/16 09:53:02
You and the rest of your minions refuse to answer a
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DHighlander
KC
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12/16 09:59:45
been answered 1000 times -
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90Tiger
MU
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12/16 10:30:56
For years - daily - I have discussed natural rights
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pickle
MU
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12/16 10:06:21
And every time it comes up you refuse to discuss it, just
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DHighlander
KC
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12/16 11:31:32
Stop lying (nm)
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pickle
MU
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12/16 12:42:46
Stop lying, DH
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pickle
MU
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12/16 10:04:33
govt mandates aren't rights, DH, they are govt mandates,
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90Tiger
MU
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12/16 09:38:58
THERE ARE NO RIGHTS UNLESS YOU CAN SECURE THEM!
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DHighlander
KC
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12/16 09:42:12
so you don't believe in unalienable rights? (nm)
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SwampTiger
MU
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12/16 09:56:29
I do. That is my opinion though. It is not proof of them.
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DHighlander
KC
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12/16 11:33:02
You're contradicting yourself (nm)
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pickle
MU
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12/16 13:00:59
no DH, rights exist regardless of "securing them". I have a
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90Tiger
MU
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12/16 09:46:54
You claim to have those rights. Where do they come from
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DHighlander
KC
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12/16 09:55:22
You simply don't read. If you do
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pickle
MU
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12/16 10:01:06
So I am supposed to search back through thousands of your
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DHighlander
KC
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12/16 11:26:20
DH
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pickle
MU
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12/16 13:06:41
You're wrong (nm)
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pickle
MU
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12/16 09:43:32
You may as well be posting about cheese or canasta
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pickle
MU
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12/16 09:34:23
This sentence right here:
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ummmm
MU
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12/16 09:30:31
Using your 'logic'
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Spanky
KU
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12/16 09:49:56
In North Korea, the individuals that live there have a right
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ummmm
MU
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12/16 09:55:31
In places outside the US, people have the right to an
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Spanky
KU
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12/16 10:09:11
Ive never heard that condemnation
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ummmm
MU
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12/16 10:16:15
Then you are deaf.
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Spanky
KU
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12/16 10:30:26
lol. deaf. and then you post links to read with my eyes.
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ummmm
MU
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12/16 10:31:56
Did you want me to post sound files for you?
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Spanky
KU
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12/16 10:56:56
You will do anything and go to any length
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pickle
MU
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12/16 12:51:42
Run away puss-puss....
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Spanky
KU
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12/16 12:57:45
There is no such thing as a right to an education
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pickle
MU
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12/16 10:14:04
Damn...
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Tigrrrr!
MU
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12/16 08:55:28
SSDD - Pickle is a broken record but unfortunately for the
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DHighlander
KC
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12/16 09:21:49
Let's just appreciate the irony
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pickle
MU
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12/16 09:35:59
it sounds like you disagree with the Declaration
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SwampTiger
MU
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12/16 09:29:07
He's simply upset that he was never educated
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Spanky
KU
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12/16 09:14:52
This is what an explanation looks like
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pickle
MU
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12/16 09:25:32
Once you read the post, we will discuss the article
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Spanky
KU
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12/16 09:28:45
I'm not interested in your article
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pickle
MU
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12/16 09:37:10
You are not interested in getting educated
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Spanky
KU
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12/16 09:43:21
and now, based on the whim of the Emperor, health
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90Tiger
MU
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12/16 09:52:51
You are mistaking health care with health insurance...
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Spanky
KU
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12/16 10:10:31
lmfao, good grief spanky. dodge and dance! (nm)
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90Tiger
MU
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12/16 11:34:04
And you are dodging and obfuscating (nm)
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pickle
MU
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12/16 10:12:13
Nope....
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Spanky
KU
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12/16 11:19:35
Perhaps there will come a day
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pickle
MU
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12/16 09:08:00
Of course it's not a right - only an idiot would think so.(nm)
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RayKinsella1922
SEC
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12/16 09:11:11
yawn (nm)
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Tigrrrr!
MU
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12/16 09:09:00
He does this and then accuses other
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GODZILLA
MU
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12/16 08:57:29