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Thank you for making my point. As I have said multiple
Posted on: December 16, 2016 at 09:49:56 CT
DHighlander
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times the only rights you have are those that you have the power to secure.
You can claim any right you wish. Without the power to secure it you are just performing mental masturbation.
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pickle
MU
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12/16 08:50:07
Irony is TB posters crying about Obamacare and Health
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90Tiger
MU
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12/16 09:56:01
I didn't argue that education is a right because
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Spanky
KU
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12/16 11:14:04
That doesn't explain anything (nm)
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pickle
MU
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12/16 11:36:03
Because you didn't get an education, apparently.
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Spanky
KU
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12/16 12:19:05
Because that is not the purpose of the article
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pickle
MU
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12/16 13:50:27
I am a constitutionalist. education is mentioned by name
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DHighlander
KC
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12/16 10:38:41
lmfao (nm)
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90Tiger
MU
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12/16 11:30:50
You are no constitutionalist (nm)
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pickle
MU
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12/16 10:48:53
You presented no rebuttal to Spanky's claim.
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GA Tiger
MU
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12/16 09:36:21
The state doesn't give anyone the "right" to be educated
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ummmm
MU
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12/16 09:39:54
GA, no offense, but you just expressed that you don't
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90Tiger
MU
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12/16 09:38:22
I call it a right because it falls within ANY definition in
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GA Tiger
MU
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12/16 09:41:22
Force is all over state education - compliance with standard
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90Tiger
MU
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12/16 09:43:20
You call it a right
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pickle
MU
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12/16 09:42:51
You accuse us of the logical fallacy of appealing to
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DHighlander
KC
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12/16 09:52:37
I'm not arguing an appeal to authority
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pickle
MU
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12/16 09:57:59
You tell everyone to think but offer absolutely nothing in
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DHighlander
KC
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12/16 10:07:04
I'm not sure you can see my posts, but
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SwampTiger
MU
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12/16 10:12:59
I don't disagree with any of it. But without the first
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DHighlander
KC
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12/16 10:20:40
it doesn't sound like you agree with it
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SwampTiger
MU
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12/16 10:28:27
No it claims that they believe that there are inalienable
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DHighlander
KC
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12/16 10:54:19
I think I have a concussion
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SwampTiger
MU
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12/16 10:58:06
How is "We Hold" anything but an opinion?
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DHighlander
KC
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12/16 11:17:34
"truths"
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SwampTiger
MU
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12/16 11:53:39
Wow (nm)
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pickle
MU
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12/16 11:29:27
Those seven words do not support your argument
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pickle
MU
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12/16 10:26:08
Oh, my. (nm)
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pickle
MU
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12/16 10:11:51
Where does the right to education begin and where does it
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ummmm
MU
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12/16 09:42:16
The entire post is not only a rebuttal
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pickle
MU
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12/16 09:38:16
As a Constitutional Republic every state has decided that a
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DHighlander
KC
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12/16 09:28:34
Do you have a right to drive, or is it a privelege?
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tman
KC
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12/16 10:10:35
It's a right (nm)
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pickle
MU
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12/16 10:38:04
Nothing in the Constitution gives me that right. But the
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DHighlander
KC
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12/16 10:23:45
I thought you said you know the Constitution?
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pickle
MU
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12/16 10:39:21
No, the constitution identifies rights that it guarantees.
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DHighlander
KC
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12/16 11:07:49
Using your framework, rights come and go based on what
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90Tiger
MU
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12/16 09:41:51
Thank you for making my point. As I have said multiple
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DHighlander
KC
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12/16 09:49:56
That is frankly untrue
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ummmm
MU
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12/16 09:53:58
Because the right that I claim has the backing of every
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DHighlander
KC
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12/16 09:56:57
DH - none of the things you are calling a right is
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90Tiger
MU
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12/16 10:23:49
Every state constitution guarantees the right to a
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DHighlander
KC
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12/16 10:31:57
Holy **** (nm)
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pickle
MU
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12/16 10:52:56
No, they don't. Every state has laws of force
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ummmm
MU
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12/16 10:38:30
It is not possible to have meaningful discussions with
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DHighlander
KC
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12/16 10:45:56
DH - you need to unlearn everything you think you kno
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90Tiger
MU
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12/16 11:31:43
Awesome (nm)
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pickle
MU
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12/16 10:54:09
That governments are not going anywhere is a non-sequitur
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ummmm
MU
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12/16 10:50:44
I hate to say it
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pickle
MU
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12/16 10:56:23
agree (nm)
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90Tiger
MU
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12/16 11:32:38
But it is not a right. You recognize that it can be taken
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ummmm
MU
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12/16 10:00:11
That is a totally unsupportable claim. If you wish to put
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DHighlander
KC
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12/16 10:13:35
No, you cannot claim anything as a natural right.
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ummmm
MU
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12/16 10:23:54
If something comes from logical deduction then the proof of
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DHighlander
KC
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12/16 11:22:46
RE: That is a totally unsupportable claim. If you wish to put
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pickle
MU
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12/16 10:18:19
You claim to have given reasoned arguments for what rights
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DHighlander
KC
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12/16 10:27:20
"What evidence do you have for that claim?"
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pickle
MU
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12/16 12:59:29
Please answer his question (nm)
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pickle
MU
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12/16 09:59:05
You operate under this strange belief
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pickle
MU
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12/16 09:53:02
You and the rest of your minions refuse to answer a
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DHighlander
KC
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12/16 09:59:45
been answered 1000 times -
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90Tiger
MU
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12/16 10:30:56
For years - daily - I have discussed natural rights
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pickle
MU
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12/16 10:06:21
And every time it comes up you refuse to discuss it, just
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DHighlander
KC
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12/16 11:31:32
Stop lying (nm)
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pickle
MU
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12/16 12:42:46
Stop lying, DH
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pickle
MU
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12/16 10:04:33
govt mandates aren't rights, DH, they are govt mandates,
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90Tiger
MU
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12/16 09:38:58
THERE ARE NO RIGHTS UNLESS YOU CAN SECURE THEM!
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DHighlander
KC
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12/16 09:42:12
so you don't believe in unalienable rights? (nm)
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SwampTiger
MU
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12/16 09:56:29
I do. That is my opinion though. It is not proof of them.
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DHighlander
KC
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12/16 11:33:02
You're contradicting yourself (nm)
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pickle
MU
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12/16 13:00:59
no DH, rights exist regardless of "securing them". I have a
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90Tiger
MU
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12/16 09:46:54
You claim to have those rights. Where do they come from
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DHighlander
KC
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12/16 09:55:22
You simply don't read. If you do
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pickle
MU
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12/16 10:01:06
So I am supposed to search back through thousands of your
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DHighlander
KC
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12/16 11:26:20
DH
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pickle
MU
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12/16 13:06:41
You're wrong (nm)
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pickle
MU
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12/16 09:43:32
You may as well be posting about cheese or canasta
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pickle
MU
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12/16 09:34:23
This sentence right here:
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ummmm
MU
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12/16 09:30:31
Using your 'logic'
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Spanky
KU
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12/16 09:49:56
In North Korea, the individuals that live there have a right
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ummmm
MU
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12/16 09:55:31
In places outside the US, people have the right to an
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Spanky
KU
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12/16 10:09:11
Ive never heard that condemnation
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ummmm
MU
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12/16 10:16:15
Then you are deaf.
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Spanky
KU
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12/16 10:30:26
lol. deaf. and then you post links to read with my eyes.
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ummmm
MU
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12/16 10:31:56
Did you want me to post sound files for you?
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Spanky
KU
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12/16 10:56:56
You will do anything and go to any length
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pickle
MU
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12/16 12:51:42
Run away puss-puss....
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Spanky
KU
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12/16 12:57:45
There is no such thing as a right to an education
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pickle
MU
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12/16 10:14:04
Damn...
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Tigrrrr!
MU
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12/16 08:55:28
SSDD - Pickle is a broken record but unfortunately for the
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DHighlander
KC
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12/16 09:21:49
Let's just appreciate the irony
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pickle
MU
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12/16 09:35:59
it sounds like you disagree with the Declaration
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SwampTiger
MU
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12/16 09:29:07
He's simply upset that he was never educated
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Spanky
KU
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12/16 09:14:52
This is what an explanation looks like
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pickle
MU
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12/16 09:25:32
Once you read the post, we will discuss the article
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Spanky
KU
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12/16 09:28:45
I'm not interested in your article
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pickle
MU
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12/16 09:37:10
You are not interested in getting educated
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Spanky
KU
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12/16 09:43:21
and now, based on the whim of the Emperor, health
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90Tiger
MU
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12/16 09:52:51
You are mistaking health care with health insurance...
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Spanky
KU
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12/16 10:10:31
lmfao, good grief spanky. dodge and dance! (nm)
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90Tiger
MU
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12/16 11:34:04
And you are dodging and obfuscating (nm)
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pickle
MU
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12/16 10:12:13
Nope....
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Spanky
KU
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12/16 11:19:35
Perhaps there will come a day
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pickle
MU
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12/16 09:08:00
Of course it's not a right - only an idiot would think so.(nm)
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RayKinsella1922
SEC
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12/16 09:11:11
yawn (nm)
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Tigrrrr!
MU
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12/16 09:09:00
He does this and then accuses other
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GODZILLA
MU
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12/16 08:57:29