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Posted on: December 16, 2016 at 09:49:56 CT
Spanky KU
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"So in the US freedom IS a right but only because the people have declared it so. In other places (such as North Korea and in many Islamic areas) it is definitely NOT a right."

Does that also effectively display why freedom is not a right?
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From Aug. 2013 - pickle MU - 12/16 08:50:07
     Irony is TB posters crying about Obamacare and Health - 90Tiger MU - 12/16 09:56:01
          I didn't argue that education is a right because - Spanky KU - 12/16 11:14:04
               That doesn't explain anything (nm) - pickle MU - 12/16 11:36:03
                    Because you didn't get an education, apparently. - Spanky KU - 12/16 12:19:05
                         Because that is not the purpose of the article - pickle MU - 12/16 13:50:27
          I am a constitutionalist. education is mentioned by name - DHighlander KC - 12/16 10:38:41
               lmfao (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/16 11:30:50
               You are no constitutionalist (nm) - pickle MU - 12/16 10:48:53
     You presented no rebuttal to Spanky's claim. - GA Tiger MU - 12/16 09:36:21
          The state doesn't give anyone the "right" to be educated - ummmm MU - 12/16 09:39:54
          GA, no offense, but you just expressed that you don't - 90Tiger MU - 12/16 09:38:22
               I call it a right because it falls within ANY definition in - GA Tiger MU - 12/16 09:41:22
                    Force is all over state education - compliance with standard - 90Tiger MU - 12/16 09:43:20
                    You call it a right - pickle MU - 12/16 09:42:51
                         You accuse us of the logical fallacy of appealing to - DHighlander KC - 12/16 09:52:37
                              I'm not arguing an appeal to authority - pickle MU - 12/16 09:57:59
                                   You tell everyone to think but offer absolutely nothing in - DHighlander KC - 12/16 10:07:04
                                        I'm not sure you can see my posts, but - SwampTiger MU - 12/16 10:12:59
                                             I don't disagree with any of it. But without the first - DHighlander KC - 12/16 10:20:40
                                                  it doesn't sound like you agree with it - SwampTiger MU - 12/16 10:28:27
                                                       No it claims that they believe that there are inalienable - DHighlander KC - 12/16 10:54:19
                                                            I think I have a concussion - SwampTiger MU - 12/16 10:58:06
                                                                 How is "We Hold" anything but an opinion? - DHighlander KC - 12/16 11:17:34
                                                                      "truths" - SwampTiger MU - 12/16 11:53:39
                                                                      Wow (nm) - pickle MU - 12/16 11:29:27
                                                  Those seven words do not support your argument - pickle MU - 12/16 10:26:08
                                        Oh, my. (nm) - pickle MU - 12/16 10:11:51
                    Where does the right to education begin and where does it - ummmm MU - 12/16 09:42:16
          The entire post is not only a rebuttal - pickle MU - 12/16 09:38:16
     As a Constitutional Republic every state has decided that a - DHighlander KC - 12/16 09:28:34
          Do you have a right to drive, or is it a privelege? - tman KC - 12/16 10:10:35
               It's a right (nm) - pickle MU - 12/16 10:38:04
               Nothing in the Constitution gives me that right. But the - DHighlander KC - 12/16 10:23:45
                    I thought you said you know the Constitution? - pickle MU - 12/16 10:39:21
                         No, the constitution identifies rights that it guarantees. - DHighlander KC - 12/16 11:07:49
          Using your framework, rights come and go based on what - 90Tiger MU - 12/16 09:41:51
               Thank you for making my point. As I have said multiple - DHighlander KC - 12/16 09:49:56
                    That is frankly untrue - ummmm MU - 12/16 09:53:58
                         Because the right that I claim has the backing of every - DHighlander KC - 12/16 09:56:57
                              DH - none of the things you are calling a right is - 90Tiger MU - 12/16 10:23:49
                                   Every state constitution guarantees the right to a - DHighlander KC - 12/16 10:31:57
                                        Holy **** (nm) - pickle MU - 12/16 10:52:56
                                        No, they don't. Every state has laws of force - ummmm MU - 12/16 10:38:30
                                             It is not possible to have meaningful discussions with - DHighlander KC - 12/16 10:45:56
                                                  DH - you need to unlearn everything you think you kno - 90Tiger MU - 12/16 11:31:43
                                                  Awesome (nm) - pickle MU - 12/16 10:54:09
                                                  That governments are not going anywhere is a non-sequitur - ummmm MU - 12/16 10:50:44
                                                       I hate to say it - pickle MU - 12/16 10:56:23
                                                            agree (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/16 11:32:38
                              But it is not a right. You recognize that it can be taken - ummmm MU - 12/16 10:00:11
                                   That is a totally unsupportable claim. If you wish to put - DHighlander KC - 12/16 10:13:35
                                        No, you cannot claim anything as a natural right. - ummmm MU - 12/16 10:23:54
                                             If something comes from logical deduction then the proof of - DHighlander KC - 12/16 11:22:46
                                        RE: That is a totally unsupportable claim. If you wish to put - pickle MU - 12/16 10:18:19
                                             You claim to have given reasoned arguments for what rights - DHighlander KC - 12/16 10:27:20
                                                  "What evidence do you have for that claim?" - pickle MU - 12/16 12:59:29
                              Please answer his question (nm) - pickle MU - 12/16 09:59:05
                    You operate under this strange belief - pickle MU - 12/16 09:53:02
                         You and the rest of your minions refuse to answer a - DHighlander KC - 12/16 09:59:45
                              been answered 1000 times - - 90Tiger MU - 12/16 10:30:56
                              For years - daily - I have discussed natural rights - pickle MU - 12/16 10:06:21
                                   And every time it comes up you refuse to discuss it, just - DHighlander KC - 12/16 11:31:32
                                        Stop lying (nm) - pickle MU - 12/16 12:42:46
                              Stop lying, DH - pickle MU - 12/16 10:04:33
          govt mandates aren't rights, DH, they are govt mandates, - 90Tiger MU - 12/16 09:38:58
               THERE ARE NO RIGHTS UNLESS YOU CAN SECURE THEM! - DHighlander KC - 12/16 09:42:12
                    so you don't believe in unalienable rights? (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 12/16 09:56:29
                         I do. That is my opinion though. It is not proof of them. - DHighlander KC - 12/16 11:33:02
                              You're contradicting yourself (nm) - pickle MU - 12/16 13:00:59
                    no DH, rights exist regardless of "securing them". I have a - 90Tiger MU - 12/16 09:46:54
                         You claim to have those rights. Where do they come from - DHighlander KC - 12/16 09:55:22
                              You simply don't read. If you do - pickle MU - 12/16 10:01:06
                                   So I am supposed to search back through thousands of your - DHighlander KC - 12/16 11:26:20
                                        DH - pickle MU - 12/16 13:06:41
                    You're wrong (nm) - pickle MU - 12/16 09:43:32
          You may as well be posting about cheese or canasta - pickle MU - 12/16 09:34:23
          This sentence right here: - ummmm MU - 12/16 09:30:31
               Using your 'logic' - Spanky KU - 12/16 09:49:56
                    In North Korea, the individuals that live there have a right - ummmm MU - 12/16 09:55:31
                         In places outside the US, people have the right to an - Spanky KU - 12/16 10:09:11
                              Ive never heard that condemnation - ummmm MU - 12/16 10:16:15
                                   Then you are deaf. - Spanky KU - 12/16 10:30:26
                                        lol. deaf. and then you post links to read with my eyes. - ummmm MU - 12/16 10:31:56
                                             Did you want me to post sound files for you? - Spanky KU - 12/16 10:56:56
                                                  You will do anything and go to any length - pickle MU - 12/16 12:51:42
                                                       Run away puss-puss.... - Spanky KU - 12/16 12:57:45
                              There is no such thing as a right to an education - pickle MU - 12/16 10:14:04
     Damn... - Tigrrrr! MU - 12/16 08:55:28
          SSDD - Pickle is a broken record but unfortunately for the - DHighlander KC - 12/16 09:21:49
               Let's just appreciate the irony - pickle MU - 12/16 09:35:59
               it sounds like you disagree with the Declaration - SwampTiger MU - 12/16 09:29:07
          He's simply upset that he was never educated - Spanky KU - 12/16 09:14:52
               This is what an explanation looks like - pickle MU - 12/16 09:25:32
                    Once you read the post, we will discuss the article - Spanky KU - 12/16 09:28:45
                         I'm not interested in your article - pickle MU - 12/16 09:37:10
                              You are not interested in getting educated - Spanky KU - 12/16 09:43:21
                                   and now, based on the whim of the Emperor, health - 90Tiger MU - 12/16 09:52:51
                                        You are mistaking health care with health insurance... - Spanky KU - 12/16 10:10:31
                                             lmfao, good grief spanky. dodge and dance! (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/16 11:34:04
                                             And you are dodging and obfuscating (nm) - pickle MU - 12/16 10:12:13
                                                  Nope.... - Spanky KU - 12/16 11:19:35
          Perhaps there will come a day - pickle MU - 12/16 09:08:00
               Of course it's not a right - only an idiot would think so.(nm) - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 12/16 09:11:11
               yawn (nm) - Tigrrrr! MU - 12/16 09:09:00
          He does this and then accuses other - GODZILLA MU - 12/16 08:57:29




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