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RE: We are one big away from a loaded roster

Posted on: October 19, 2016 at 11:57:41 CT
redkerr UI
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"loaded" because you will have familiar names to fans. Experience will help some, but it always comes down to talent. You need a lot more talent.

I try not to fall into that trap with Illinois this year. Lots of experienced players and two deep or more at every position. But is the talent enough? And that is with a number of top 100 players.

Here is the depth chart since Missouri plays Illinois.

C Mike Thorne (6-11 Sr. who was averaging 14 and 8 before being injured before the Missouri game last year)

F Leron Black (6-7 So. who was a top 50 recruit who missed almost all of last year)

G Malcolm Hill (6-6 Sr. who averaged 18 last year and is primed for a big season)

G Jalen Coleman-Lands (6-3 So. who was a top 35 recruit and was one of the best three point shooters in the BT last year as a frosh)

G Tracy Abrams (6-2 Sr. who is back after multiple injuries. A top 75 recruit is a tough defender and double digit scorer the last time he played)

Bench:

C Maverick Morgan (6-10 Sr. who started a lot last year after Thorne's injury. Had several 20 pt. games)

F Michael Finke (6-10 So. who could beat out Black with his shooting skills)

G Kipper Nichols (6-6 Fr. Just wait. This kid can play)

G Aaron Jordan (6-5 So. was a top 75 recruit who was considered one of the top shooters in the Midwest)

G Te'jean Lucas (6-0 Fr. point who was a top 150 on Rivals.

Also 6-7 DJ Williams, a top 75 recruit from Simeon and Jaylen Tate, a Sr. who has started a lot of games at Illinois. Also from Simeon.

That is a lot of experience and quite a bit of talent. Last year's disaster was in part because of losing 3 starters for the year and two other players for long stretches. If this team stays healthy, they have a chance to be pretty decent.

And 2017 class is top 4 nationally right now. Will drop to top 15 unless Groce pulls off five star Wilkes in a couple of weeks.

My point is, there are a lot of teams who have depth, questions of pure talent, and hope for the future.
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We are one big away from a loaded roster - MUIntensity USA - 10/18 21:57:40
     RE: We are one big away from a loaded roster - redkerr UI - 10/19 11:57:41
          You're wasting your time trying to explain talent to MUI... - Lerxst MU - 10/19 15:09:30
     Oh brother. (nm) - Lerxst MU - 10/19 09:32:52
     I always figured if Kim could do anything it would be - alstl MU - 10/19 08:53:44
          Rosburg's transformation? Lol 16min, 3 reb, 4.2 - Rabbit Test MU - 10/19 10:36:49
          So a Senior Center who avgs 7pts and 4rbds shows - sharpwp UNC - 10/19 10:12:20
          except Rosburg's best season at MU was his soph yr - FIJItiger MU - 10/19 08:57:38
               Solid post - JCain816 KC - 10/19 12:06:37
               Do you watch the games? (nm) - TheLegend MU - 10/19 10:06:44
                    It is certainly hard to believe he watches them - JCain816 KC - 10/19 12:05:27
                    Yes, all of them. Obviously the last 9 games of - FIJItiger MU - 10/19 10:13:18
                         That is laughable #FaithInHaith (nm) - TheLegend MU - 10/19 10:24:54
               LOL (nm) - alstl MU - 10/19 09:29:29
               what are you basing that on? - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/19 09:02:55
                    FG%, rebounds, blocks, defense, mpg - FIJItiger MU - 10/19 09:09:29
                         wrong - Moball2play SWT - 10/19 09:17:20
                              He had the single season highest FG% in program history - FIJItiger MU - 10/19 09:20:37
                                   LOL here are the facts - Moball2play SWT - 10/19 09:34:29
                                        So a 2.7 ppg increase in scoring from soph to sr year with - FIJItiger MU - 10/19 09:43:08
                                             His conference totals went from 4.5 to 10.3 - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/19 09:55:57
                                                  That is the key. The final 9 games of his career he - FIJItiger MU - 10/19 09:57:56
                                                       You honestly believe that? (nm) - TheLegend MU - 10/19 10:08:18
                                                            Yes (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 10/19 10:16:31
                                                            And this is the guy who posts non stop about Mizzou - sprintcar STL - 10/19 10:10:51
                                                                 Well certainly his player evaluations (nm) - TheLegend MU - 10/19 10:11:54
                                                       Both evolved - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/19 10:01:58
                                             and yes 2.7 ppg increase would should a better offensive - Moball2play SWT - 10/19 09:51:07
                                                  He was more assertive, and was in a different role - FIJItiger MU - 10/19 09:52:45
                                                       He wasnt capable of that role as a sophmore.... - Moball2play SWT - 10/19 09:58:57
                                                            This is one of the dumber positions FIJI has taken - TheLegend MU - 10/19 10:35:10
                                                                 Agree - Moball2play SWT - 10/19 10:45:25
                                             what? - Moball2play SWT - 10/19 09:49:25
                                                  He took 2 more shots per game (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 10/19 09:50:21
                                                       yes.. 55% more than he did his sophmore year.... - Moball2play SWT - 10/19 09:52:23
                                                            His attempts his soph year came on rebound put backs from - sprintcar STL - 10/19 09:56:01
                                                                 Amen - Moball2play SWT - 10/19 10:01:59
                                                                 He avged 1.4 offensive rebounds per game that season - FIJItiger MU - 10/19 10:01:41
                                                                      Any points he scored were because the defense was - sprintcar STL - 10/19 10:05:07
                                                                           He could finish going towards the rim - TheLegend MU - 10/19 10:31:56
                                             Of course you don't because you don't understand what was - sprintcar STL - 10/19 09:49:05
               Showing off that basketball knowledge early today.(nm) - sprintcar STL - 10/19 09:00:21
                    If he had been the focus on offense his sophomore year - StaleyTiger MU - 10/19 09:03:30
                         He also struggled to catch the ball in postups - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/19 09:09:50
     Is this sarcasm? - FIJItiger MU - 10/19 08:41:36
     Lol. No. (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 10/19 08:24:04
     half of our players will transfer by then (nm) - ChinaTiger MU - 10/19 01:17:08
          No way. The players that only cared about themselves - go tigers MU - 10/19 08:42:04
          Transfers? I don't see anybody transferring - mizzoucub MU - 10/19 08:37:40
          Doubtful. 2-3 transfers tops this season - MUIntensity USA - 10/19 07:53:19
               3 transfers is still a large number - that's nearly 25% of - tigerdb MU - 10/19 08:11:04
                    The next staff will have their hands tied - FIJItiger MU - 10/19 08:43:48
                         But when the next coach turns it around quickly - sharpwp UNC - 10/19 09:52:43
                         You just described what Coach Anderson inherited from the - go tigers MU - 10/19 08:44:44
                              Hopefully losing 12 players in 2 years wasn't the - FIJItiger MU - 10/19 08:54:39
                                   How many of those 12 did the staff really want to stay? - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/19 08:59:30
                                        That is one of the problems of the staff. - sharpwp UNC - 10/19 10:01:47
                                        #waltonitis - tigerdb MU - 10/19 09:33:13
                                             They wanted Teki back - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/19 09:36:44
                                                  RE: They wanted Teki back - tigerdb MU - 10/19 10:06:21
                                        Despite building evidence, I'm still of the opinion that - FIJItiger MU - 10/19 09:02:14
                                             That is why we should blame Alden and the people - sharpwp UNC - 10/19 10:04:06
                                                  Why do you think Alden quit not long after KA was hired - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/19 10:19:37
                                                       I think this is pretty close to the truth... - tigerdb MU - 10/19 10:29:47
                                                  Not sure they are thinking with either frankly - FIJItiger MU - 10/19 10:08:46
                                             is that why late last year a walkon was playing - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/19 09:06:10
                                                  Ok, maybe it is malicious. I'm just not ready to - FIJItiger MU - 10/19 09:12:08
                                                       Or maybe they didn't like most of the players - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/19 09:15:09
                                                            That speaks more to incompetence than they were right. - sharpwp UNC - 10/19 10:07:24
                                                            Does that include Payne?(nm) - tigerdb MU - 10/19 09:33:49
                                                            Maybe it is just incompetence, there is a fine - FIJItiger MU - 10/19 09:26:20
                                                                 Maybe the team is better without them - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/19 09:33:55
                                                                      Maybe, but not really (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 10/19 09:37:54
                                                                      I believe that's a false narrative put out by the coaching - tigerdb MU - 10/19 09:36:24
                                                                           Probably would have been better off taking the APR - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/19 09:38:03
                                                                                certainly - if the best player wanted to remain in the - tigerdb MU - 10/19 09:51:41
                    Are you going to jump off a bridge, if Coach Anderson is - go tigers MU - 10/19 08:43:36
                         Are you going to jump when he's canned... - tigerdb MU - 10/19 08:54:44
                    The number of transfers is less important than the who - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/19 08:15:10
     Contender for what? (nm) - DollarSigns MU - 10/18 22:45:11
          Tourney invites. Nm - MUIntensity USA - 10/19 07:48:37
               We have a solid shot at an SEC tournament bid(nm) - Guy on a Bison MU - 10/19 08:47:03
                    Depends if we need another diversion from a complete - FIJItiger MU - 10/19 08:50:50
               The SEC is probably a 3-4 bid league for the foreseeable - tgr MU - 10/19 08:00:51
                    Mizzou has a top 100 recruit in Roberts - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/19 08:10:28
                         He isn't on our team, he is a verbal commit - FIJItiger MU - 10/19 09:04:25
                              it's the same verbal commitment that all the other SEC - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/19 09:13:15
                         Just going by 247. Roberts seems to only be a high ranked - tgr MU - 10/19 08:28:14
                              Your reliance on recruit rankings is where we differ - MUIntensity USA - 10/19 08:37:56
                                   You can ignore them all you want but reality is they matter. - tgr MU - 10/19 08:41:28
                                        That Ole Miss team also had Buckner who was top 30 and - StaleyTiger MU - 10/19 08:48:29
                                             An example of it not mattering is Oklahoma - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/19 08:55:17
                                                  From my original post: - StaleyTiger MU - 10/19 09:01:31
                                                       It's a big part of why I have said - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/19 09:21:14
                                                            Tom Izzo has said the team with the best players usually - sprintcar STL - 10/19 11:01:30
                                        tons of team make the NCAA tournament without top 50 - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/19 08:46:49
                                             The top 50 was just pointing out the last 4 years of SEC and - tgr MU - 10/19 08:54:04
                         Arkansas has a top 40 kid as well. - tigerdb MU - 10/19 08:18:00
                              not a certain that a coaching change i is going to happen - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/19 08:28:02
                                   This is likely an 8-12 win team; 13-14 in SEC play... - tigerdb MU - 10/19 08:36:24
                                        I see it as a 12-18 win team - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/19 08:41:49
                                        Again, it depends on the situation - MUIntensity USA - 10/19 08:40:33
     I wouldn't say loaded - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/18 22:16:56
          I don't think that's the model we're going for - MUIntensity USA - 10/19 07:47:30
          The team is such an unknown... - AlleyCat KC - 10/18 22:41:14
               I don't think it's Geist - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/19 06:56:14
                    I don't think it's Walton - Jeff85 MU - 10/19 07:29:47
     Kim doesn't have enough energy to initiate a scandal. (nm) - Evenflow MU - 10/18 22:01:37




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