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You can ignore them all you want but reality is they matter.

Posted on: October 19, 2016 at 08:41:28 CT
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Here is a post I did two years ago about the correlation between top talent and making the tourney. The TLDR: Only one team out of 15 made the tournament without at least two top 50 players.

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We are one big away from a loaded roster - MUIntensity USA - 10/18 21:57:40
     RE: We are one big away from a loaded roster - redkerr UI - 10/19 11:57:41
          You're wasting your time trying to explain talent to MUI... - Lerxst MU - 10/19 15:09:30
     Oh brother. (nm) - Lerxst MU - 10/19 09:32:52
     I always figured if Kim could do anything it would be - alstl MU - 10/19 08:53:44
          Rosburg's transformation? Lol 16min, 3 reb, 4.2 - Rabbit Test MU - 10/19 10:36:49
          So a Senior Center who avgs 7pts and 4rbds shows - sharpwp UNC - 10/19 10:12:20
          except Rosburg's best season at MU was his soph yr - FIJItiger MU - 10/19 08:57:38
               Solid post - JCain816 KC - 10/19 12:06:37
               Do you watch the games? (nm) - TheLegend MU - 10/19 10:06:44
                    It is certainly hard to believe he watches them - JCain816 KC - 10/19 12:05:27
                    Yes, all of them. Obviously the last 9 games of - FIJItiger MU - 10/19 10:13:18
                         That is laughable #FaithInHaith (nm) - TheLegend MU - 10/19 10:24:54
               LOL (nm) - alstl MU - 10/19 09:29:29
               what are you basing that on? - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/19 09:02:55
                    FG%, rebounds, blocks, defense, mpg - FIJItiger MU - 10/19 09:09:29
                         wrong - Moball2play SWT - 10/19 09:17:20
                              He had the single season highest FG% in program history - FIJItiger MU - 10/19 09:20:37
                                   LOL here are the facts - Moball2play SWT - 10/19 09:34:29
                                        So a 2.7 ppg increase in scoring from soph to sr year with - FIJItiger MU - 10/19 09:43:08
                                             His conference totals went from 4.5 to 10.3 - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/19 09:55:57
                                                  That is the key. The final 9 games of his career he - FIJItiger MU - 10/19 09:57:56
                                                       You honestly believe that? (nm) - TheLegend MU - 10/19 10:08:18
                                                            Yes (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 10/19 10:16:31
                                                            And this is the guy who posts non stop about Mizzou - sprintcar STL - 10/19 10:10:51
                                                                 Well certainly his player evaluations (nm) - TheLegend MU - 10/19 10:11:54
                                                       Both evolved - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/19 10:01:58
                                             and yes 2.7 ppg increase would should a better offensive - Moball2play SWT - 10/19 09:51:07
                                                  He was more assertive, and was in a different role - FIJItiger MU - 10/19 09:52:45
                                                       He wasnt capable of that role as a sophmore.... - Moball2play SWT - 10/19 09:58:57
                                                            This is one of the dumber positions FIJI has taken - TheLegend MU - 10/19 10:35:10
                                                                 Agree - Moball2play SWT - 10/19 10:45:25
                                             what? - Moball2play SWT - 10/19 09:49:25
                                                  He took 2 more shots per game (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 10/19 09:50:21
                                                       yes.. 55% more than he did his sophmore year.... - Moball2play SWT - 10/19 09:52:23
                                                            His attempts his soph year came on rebound put backs from - sprintcar STL - 10/19 09:56:01
                                                                 Amen - Moball2play SWT - 10/19 10:01:59
                                                                 He avged 1.4 offensive rebounds per game that season - FIJItiger MU - 10/19 10:01:41
                                                                      Any points he scored were because the defense was - sprintcar STL - 10/19 10:05:07
                                                                           He could finish going towards the rim - TheLegend MU - 10/19 10:31:56
                                             Of course you don't because you don't understand what was - sprintcar STL - 10/19 09:49:05
               Showing off that basketball knowledge early today.(nm) - sprintcar STL - 10/19 09:00:21
                    If he had been the focus on offense his sophomore year - StaleyTiger MU - 10/19 09:03:30
                         He also struggled to catch the ball in postups - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/19 09:09:50
     Is this sarcasm? - FIJItiger MU - 10/19 08:41:36
     Lol. No. (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 10/19 08:24:04
     half of our players will transfer by then (nm) - ChinaTiger MU - 10/19 01:17:08
          No way. The players that only cared about themselves - go tigers MU - 10/19 08:42:04
          Transfers? I don't see anybody transferring - mizzoucub MU - 10/19 08:37:40
          Doubtful. 2-3 transfers tops this season - MUIntensity USA - 10/19 07:53:19
               3 transfers is still a large number - that's nearly 25% of - tigerdb MU - 10/19 08:11:04
                    The next staff will have their hands tied - FIJItiger MU - 10/19 08:43:48
                         But when the next coach turns it around quickly - sharpwp UNC - 10/19 09:52:43
                         You just described what Coach Anderson inherited from the - go tigers MU - 10/19 08:44:44
                              Hopefully losing 12 players in 2 years wasn't the - FIJItiger MU - 10/19 08:54:39
                                   How many of those 12 did the staff really want to stay? - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/19 08:59:30
                                        That is one of the problems of the staff. - sharpwp UNC - 10/19 10:01:47
                                        #waltonitis - tigerdb MU - 10/19 09:33:13
                                             They wanted Teki back - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/19 09:36:44
                                                  RE: They wanted Teki back - tigerdb MU - 10/19 10:06:21
                                        Despite building evidence, I'm still of the opinion that - FIJItiger MU - 10/19 09:02:14
                                             That is why we should blame Alden and the people - sharpwp UNC - 10/19 10:04:06
                                                  Why do you think Alden quit not long after KA was hired - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/19 10:19:37
                                                       I think this is pretty close to the truth... - tigerdb MU - 10/19 10:29:47
                                                  Not sure they are thinking with either frankly - FIJItiger MU - 10/19 10:08:46
                                             is that why late last year a walkon was playing - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/19 09:06:10
                                                  Ok, maybe it is malicious. I'm just not ready to - FIJItiger MU - 10/19 09:12:08
                                                       Or maybe they didn't like most of the players - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/19 09:15:09
                                                            That speaks more to incompetence than they were right. - sharpwp UNC - 10/19 10:07:24
                                                            Does that include Payne?(nm) - tigerdb MU - 10/19 09:33:49
                                                            Maybe it is just incompetence, there is a fine - FIJItiger MU - 10/19 09:26:20
                                                                 Maybe the team is better without them - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/19 09:33:55
                                                                      Maybe, but not really (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 10/19 09:37:54
                                                                      I believe that's a false narrative put out by the coaching - tigerdb MU - 10/19 09:36:24
                                                                           Probably would have been better off taking the APR - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/19 09:38:03
                                                                                certainly - if the best player wanted to remain in the - tigerdb MU - 10/19 09:51:41
                    Are you going to jump off a bridge, if Coach Anderson is - go tigers MU - 10/19 08:43:36
                         Are you going to jump when he's canned... - tigerdb MU - 10/19 08:54:44
                    The number of transfers is less important than the who - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/19 08:15:10
     Contender for what? (nm) - DollarSigns MU - 10/18 22:45:11
          Tourney invites. Nm - MUIntensity USA - 10/19 07:48:37
               We have a solid shot at an SEC tournament bid(nm) - Guy on a Bison MU - 10/19 08:47:03
                    Depends if we need another diversion from a complete - FIJItiger MU - 10/19 08:50:50
               The SEC is probably a 3-4 bid league for the foreseeable - tgr MU - 10/19 08:00:51
                    Mizzou has a top 100 recruit in Roberts - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/19 08:10:28
                         He isn't on our team, he is a verbal commit - FIJItiger MU - 10/19 09:04:25
                              it's the same verbal commitment that all the other SEC - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/19 09:13:15
                         Just going by 247. Roberts seems to only be a high ranked - tgr MU - 10/19 08:28:14
                              Your reliance on recruit rankings is where we differ - MUIntensity USA - 10/19 08:37:56
                                   You can ignore them all you want but reality is they matter. - tgr MU - 10/19 08:41:28
                                        That Ole Miss team also had Buckner who was top 30 and - StaleyTiger MU - 10/19 08:48:29
                                             An example of it not mattering is Oklahoma - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/19 08:55:17
                                                  From my original post: - StaleyTiger MU - 10/19 09:01:31
                                                       It's a big part of why I have said - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/19 09:21:14
                                                            Tom Izzo has said the team with the best players usually - sprintcar STL - 10/19 11:01:30
                                        tons of team make the NCAA tournament without top 50 - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/19 08:46:49
                                             The top 50 was just pointing out the last 4 years of SEC and - tgr MU - 10/19 08:54:04
                         Arkansas has a top 40 kid as well. - tigerdb MU - 10/19 08:18:00
                              not a certain that a coaching change i is going to happen - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/19 08:28:02
                                   This is likely an 8-12 win team; 13-14 in SEC play... - tigerdb MU - 10/19 08:36:24
                                        I see it as a 12-18 win team - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/19 08:41:49
                                        Again, it depends on the situation - MUIntensity USA - 10/19 08:40:33
     I wouldn't say loaded - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/18 22:16:56
          I don't think that's the model we're going for - MUIntensity USA - 10/19 07:47:30
          The team is such an unknown... - AlleyCat KC - 10/18 22:41:14
               I don't think it's Geist - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/19 06:56:14
                    I don't think it's Walton - Jeff85 MU - 10/19 07:29:47
     Kim doesn't have enough energy to initiate a scandal. (nm) - Evenflow MU - 10/18 22:01:37




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