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Nitty cent
Posted on: September 16, 2016 at 16:01:33 CT
Mr. Orange
SU
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I love how the guys that left to one party are great
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nerdmachine
KC
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9/16 12:51:06
Wright and Clark led the team in minutes per game
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quicksand
MU
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9/16 19:55:01
Theres a difference between being
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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9/17 15:16:26
Some need recruiting rankings to tell them who can play
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Mr. Orange
SU
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9/16 16:00:17
Or you can look at the facts that the best teams have the
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StaleyTiger
MU
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9/16 21:08:00
You think CMA is a hall of fame coach
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Mr. Orange
SU
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9/16 23:35:37
Teams with Final 4 aspirations recruit the best players
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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9/16 21:33:21
Most major conference teams that are perennial tourney teams
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StaleyTiger
MU
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9/16 21:39:30
either better recruiting or better development
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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9/16 21:53:18
KA must be one of them
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quicksand
MU
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9/16 19:59:08
More whining about the past to avoid staring at the reality
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90Tiger
MU
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9/16 13:43:37
For example...
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Mr. Orange
SU
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9/16 16:00:37
Agree, feefee and his minions should stop worrying about the
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MidMoBaller4Life
MU
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9/16 14:18:38
RE: Agree, feefee and his minions should stop worrying about the
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StlWeir
MU
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9/17 09:50:32
Fiji didn't make that OP, check your premise (nm)
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90Tiger
MU
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9/16 14:22:09
It wasn't about the OP, just a general statement old chap!(nm)
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MidMoBaller4Life
MU
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9/16 14:23:05
I know, which means it wasn't topical but typical (nm)
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90Tiger
MU
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9/16 14:23:25
You should be a rapper(nm)
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MidMoBaller4Life
MU
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9/16 14:24:14
90 cent (nm)
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Uncle John
MU
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9/16 14:47:09
Nitty cent
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Mr. Orange
SU
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9/16 16:01:33
lol(nm)
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MidMoBaller4Life
MU
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9/16 14:51:38
A KA poster posts about the past and you blame
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90Tiger
MU
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9/16 14:26:11
Let's be manly men and push forward through this storm!(nm)
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MidMoBaller4Life
MU
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9/16 14:27:55
I look forward to seeing the new guys and the returners. I
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Uncle John
MU
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9/16 14:03:26
feej leads the board in that category and you worship him
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Jeff85
MU
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9/16 13:45:20
they weren't good enough so we have new players
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Jeff85
MU
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9/16 13:36:58
Again, 5 of the top 7 scorers from last yrs 10 win team
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FIJItiger
MU
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9/16 12:58:09
RE: Again, 5 of the top 7 scorers from last yrs 10 win team
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StlWeir
MU
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9/17 10:00:55
You love to talk about the offenses inefficiency,
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nerdmachine
KC
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9/16 15:42:46
Then I wonder why Wright and Clark
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quicksand
MU
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9/16 20:08:27
RE: Then I wonder why Wright and Clark
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StlWeir
MU
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9/17 10:02:56
Normally the best players play the most minutes
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quicksand
MU
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9/17 14:44:33
Does it matter if there are basically no efficient
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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9/16 21:15:21
9 of the 1op 13 scorers from the 2014 team
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haeffb
MU
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9/16 14:05:42
And we went from 23 wins to 9.
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quicksand
MU
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9/16 20:13:46
I am betting that this is KAs team with the most wins
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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9/16 20:45:49
This is a lie.
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zodiac6
JC
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9/16 13:51:39
Our top 5 scorers in SEC play, in order, were:
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FIJItiger
MU
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9/16 13:54:38
Top scorers and top scorers in SEC play are not the same
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MizzouTigerz
MU
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9/16 20:29:16
So like I said, a lie.
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zodiac6
JC
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9/16 13:59:33
We aren't trying to compete against Wofford, Lipscomb,
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FIJItiger
MU
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9/16 14:07:50
RE: We aren't trying to compete against Wofford, Lipscomb,
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StlWeir
MU
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9/17 10:05:07
If you meant top scorers in SEC play why didn't you say it?
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MizzouTigerz
MU
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9/16 20:34:05
Mizzou couldn't compete because they players
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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9/16 14:20:18
It was most importantly, until this season, the least
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FIJItiger
MU
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9/16 14:24:15
we actually don't know that this years team
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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9/16 14:38:52
Some teams can simply will themselves to be better
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Rabbit Test
MU
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9/16 14:29:31
Ya, his junior season was the opposite of that
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FIJItiger
MU
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9/16 14:30:40
Imagine how bad we would still be
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Rabbit Test
MU
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9/16 14:34:50
Bad defense is Kim Anderson's fault.
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Rabbit Test
MU
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9/16 14:23:37
Team defense yes
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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9/16 14:36:56
Do you think Gant's shoulder injury might have impacted
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tigerdb
MU
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9/16 15:24:28
RE: Do you think Gant's shoulder injury might have impacted
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StlWeir
MU
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9/17 10:09:02
As I said below Gant's defense was much better last year
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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9/16 15:46:18
Well, not exactly
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Rabbit Test
MU
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9/16 14:40:15
Gant actually made huge defensive improvement
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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9/16 14:44:52
I am afraid
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Rabbit Test
MU
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9/16 14:09:56
Different argument - "in SEC play"
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haeffb
MU
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9/16 13:58:36
Walton and Gant also played half the minutes
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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9/16 14:40:55
I'd be curious to see who actually did the scoring
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zodiac6
JC
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9/16 14:01:40
Limit it to the three SEC wins, to be consistent
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haeffb
MU
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9/16 14:04:22
Scoring in our 10 wins
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zodiac6
JC
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9/16 15:51:51
The formula in those wins is repeatable
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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9/16 16:59:09
For just those three games
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zodiac6
JC
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9/16 14:13:44
advanced stats had only 4 above average players
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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9/16 13:41:49
Advanced stats measure performance
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FIJItiger
MU
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9/16 13:43:39
wins and losses measures performance as well
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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9/16 14:12:01
But all of our players for 2 years have
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FIJItiger
MU
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9/16 14:16:20
Wrong.
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haeffb
MU
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9/16 14:44:58
The results are result of bad play or bad coaching.
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Rabbit Test
MU
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9/16 14:25:43
It's both
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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9/16 14:47:49
The players weren't good enough
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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9/16 14:21:40
Right. Bad coaching, bad effort, and bad talent is
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FIJItiger
MU
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9/16 14:26:23
2 players left out of top 10 scorers and neither one
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Rabbit Test
MU
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9/16 13:02:03
The guys that left are missed because they never became
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StaleyTiger
MU
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9/16 12:56:25
Exactly. Losing J3, Teki, Namon, Gant, Isabell, and Allen
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tgr
MU
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9/16 13:45:58
you had me, until you mentioned the last 2 guys
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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9/16 14:14:49
They weren't used correctly or put in the position to
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SabertoothTiger
MU
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9/16 12:54:53
JW3 was badly mis-utilized his sophomore year (nm)
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FIJItiger
MU
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9/16 12:58:59
No, he was to weak to operated where he should have played
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Uncle John
MU
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9/16 13:46:39
So running the point was the proper way to utilize him?
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FIJItiger
MU
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9/16 13:48:32
Pretty sure J3 wasn't utilized incorrectly,
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nerdmachine
KC
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9/16 16:38:07
I think he let him do what he wanted, its called getting a
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Uncle John
MU
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9/16 14:06:20
Ok, got it
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FIJItiger
MU
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9/16 14:09:12
It is when it doesn't matter(nm)
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Uncle John
MU
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9/16 14:10:03
So using him properly couldn't have resulted in things like
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FIJItiger
MU
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9/16 14:13:31
J3 wanted to prove he could shoot and be a stretch 4
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nerdmachine
KC
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9/16 16:40:12
RE: J3 wanted to prove he could shoot and be a stretch 4
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StlWeir
MU
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9/18 00:09:58
no, he was and always will be a role player
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Jeff85
MU
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9/16 13:40:17
I guess we'll see how much of a role player he is, starting
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tigerdb
MU
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9/16 13:47:00
I predict he will never be much more that a 10ppg type and
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Jeff85
MU
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9/16 13:50:48
11.9 points and 7.9 rebounds a game with MARK FEW coaching
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Rabbit Test
MU
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9/16 14:05:58
they won't need him to score much
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Jeff85
MU
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9/16 14:13:19
You are saying he won't look to score, won't
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Rabbit Test
MU
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9/16 14:20:29
if you think he recruited him to be one of the primary
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Jeff85
MU
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9/16 14:26:11
He averages 9 rebounds a game he
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Rabbit Test
MU
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9/16 14:41:28
Well, as a sophomore he was our go to player and
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FIJItiger
MU
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9/16 13:44:39
he was asked to step up and be the man and couldn't
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Jeff85
MU
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9/16 13:48:27
Which sophomores will average 11.9 points and 7.9
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Rabbit Test
MU
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9/16 14:07:58
so you are saying he played well and wasn't used improperly
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Jeff85
MU
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9/16 14:14:38
I said he played well for an underclassman and I probably
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Rabbit Test
MU
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9/16 14:21:31
agree, never said otherwise
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Jeff85
MU
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9/16 14:35:05
Being asked to do something you can't is the very
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FIJItiger
MU
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9/16 13:50:30
RE: Being asked to do something you can't is the very
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StlWeir
MU
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9/18 00:16:41
Then what else was KA supposed to do?
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nerdmachine
KC
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9/16 16:43:02
the roster was a disaster on the offensive end, think it
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Jeff85
MU
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9/16 13:52:06
So JW3 was put in a position to succeed that he was
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FIJItiger
MU
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9/16 13:56:03
what is the best way to use a roster full of guys with
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Jeff85
MU
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9/16 14:09:40
I don't know, I'm talking specifically about JW3
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FIJItiger
MU
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9/16 14:18:16
blah blah blah. I've heard it a thousand times. He wasn't
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SabertoothTiger
MU
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9/16 13:06:34
It's on Haith that J3 didn't develop from a frosh to a soph?
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tigerdb
MU
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9/16 13:32:35
yes, zero offensive skills
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Jeff85
MU
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9/16 13:38:55
Seems like you are agreeing
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FIJItiger
MU
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9/16 13:16:32
Hold on a second here,
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nerdmachine
KC
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9/16 16:47:36
Point of order
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haeffb
MU
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9/16 19:02:02
it seems like I agree that
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SabertoothTiger
MU
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9/16 13:33:03
Thanks, that explains why if we hold the
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FIJItiger
MU
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9/16 13:46:31