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Posted on: September 16, 2016 at 13:43:39 CT
FIJItiger MU
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Not ability. Our coaching and system are subpar, so players don't realize their potential. Nor were they playing hard or smart, or being utilized in proper and well defined roles.
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I love how the guys that left to one party are great - nerdmachine KC - 9/16 12:51:06
     Wright and Clark led the team in minutes per game - quicksand MU - 9/16 19:55:01
          Theres a difference between being - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/17 15:16:26
     Some need recruiting rankings to tell them who can play - Mr. Orange SU - 9/16 16:00:17
          Or you can look at the facts that the best teams have the - StaleyTiger MU - 9/16 21:08:00
               You think CMA is a hall of fame coach - Mr. Orange SU - 9/16 23:35:37
               Teams with Final 4 aspirations recruit the best players - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/16 21:33:21
                    Most major conference teams that are perennial tourney teams - StaleyTiger MU - 9/16 21:39:30
                         either better recruiting or better development - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/16 21:53:18
          KA must be one of them - quicksand MU - 9/16 19:59:08
     More whining about the past to avoid staring at the reality - 90Tiger MU - 9/16 13:43:37
          For example... - Mr. Orange SU - 9/16 16:00:37
          Agree, feefee and his minions should stop worrying about the - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 9/16 14:18:38
               RE: Agree, feefee and his minions should stop worrying about the - StlWeir MU - 9/17 09:50:32
               Fiji didn't make that OP, check your premise (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 9/16 14:22:09
                    It wasn't about the OP, just a general statement old chap!(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 9/16 14:23:05
                         I know, which means it wasn't topical but typical (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 9/16 14:23:25
                              You should be a rapper(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 9/16 14:24:14
                                   90 cent (nm) - Uncle John MU - 9/16 14:47:09
                                        Nitty cent - Mr. Orange SU - 9/16 16:01:33
                                        lol(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 9/16 14:51:38
                                   A KA poster posts about the past and you blame - 90Tiger MU - 9/16 14:26:11
                                        Let's be manly men and push forward through this storm!(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 9/16 14:27:55
          I look forward to seeing the new guys and the returners. I - Uncle John MU - 9/16 14:03:26
          feej leads the board in that category and you worship him - Jeff85 MU - 9/16 13:45:20
     they weren't good enough so we have new players - Jeff85 MU - 9/16 13:36:58
     Again, 5 of the top 7 scorers from last yrs 10 win team - FIJItiger MU - 9/16 12:58:09
          RE: Again, 5 of the top 7 scorers from last yrs 10 win team - StlWeir MU - 9/17 10:00:55
          You love to talk about the offenses inefficiency, - nerdmachine KC - 9/16 15:42:46
               Then I wonder why Wright and Clark - quicksand MU - 9/16 20:08:27
                    RE: Then I wonder why Wright and Clark - StlWeir MU - 9/17 10:02:56
                         Normally the best players play the most minutes - quicksand MU - 9/17 14:44:33
                    Does it matter if there are basically no efficient - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/16 21:15:21
          9 of the 1op 13 scorers from the 2014 team - haeffb MU - 9/16 14:05:42
               And we went from 23 wins to 9. - quicksand MU - 9/16 20:13:46
                    I am betting that this is KAs team with the most wins - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/16 20:45:49
          This is a lie. - zodiac6 JC - 9/16 13:51:39
               Our top 5 scorers in SEC play, in order, were: - FIJItiger MU - 9/16 13:54:38
                    Top scorers and top scorers in SEC play are not the same - MizzouTigerz MU - 9/16 20:29:16
                    So like I said, a lie. - zodiac6 JC - 9/16 13:59:33
                         We aren't trying to compete against Wofford, Lipscomb, - FIJItiger MU - 9/16 14:07:50
                              RE: We aren't trying to compete against Wofford, Lipscomb, - StlWeir MU - 9/17 10:05:07
                              If you meant top scorers in SEC play why didn't you say it? - MizzouTigerz MU - 9/16 20:34:05
                              Mizzou couldn't compete because they players - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/16 14:20:18
                                   It was most importantly, until this season, the least - FIJItiger MU - 9/16 14:24:15
                                        we actually don't know that this years team - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/16 14:38:52
                                        Some teams can simply will themselves to be better - Rabbit Test MU - 9/16 14:29:31
                                             Ya, his junior season was the opposite of that - FIJItiger MU - 9/16 14:30:40
                                                  Imagine how bad we would still be - Rabbit Test MU - 9/16 14:34:50
                                   Bad defense is Kim Anderson's fault. - Rabbit Test MU - 9/16 14:23:37
                                        Team defense yes - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/16 14:36:56
                                             Do you think Gant's shoulder injury might have impacted - tigerdb MU - 9/16 15:24:28
                                                  RE: Do you think Gant's shoulder injury might have impacted - StlWeir MU - 9/17 10:09:02
                                                  As I said below Gant's defense was much better last year - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/16 15:46:18
                                             Well, not exactly - Rabbit Test MU - 9/16 14:40:15
                                                  Gant actually made huge defensive improvement - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/16 14:44:52
                              I am afraid - Rabbit Test MU - 9/16 14:09:56
                    Different argument - "in SEC play" - haeffb MU - 9/16 13:58:36
                         Walton and Gant also played half the minutes - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/16 14:40:55
                         I'd be curious to see who actually did the scoring - zodiac6 JC - 9/16 14:01:40
                              Limit it to the three SEC wins, to be consistent - haeffb MU - 9/16 14:04:22
                                   Scoring in our 10 wins - zodiac6 JC - 9/16 15:51:51
                                        The formula in those wins is repeatable - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/16 16:59:09
                                   For just those three games - zodiac6 JC - 9/16 14:13:44
          advanced stats had only 4 above average players - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/16 13:41:49
               Advanced stats measure performance - FIJItiger MU - 9/16 13:43:39
                    wins and losses measures performance as well - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/16 14:12:01
                         But all of our players for 2 years have - FIJItiger MU - 9/16 14:16:20
                              Wrong. - haeffb MU - 9/16 14:44:58
                              The results are result of bad play or bad coaching. - Rabbit Test MU - 9/16 14:25:43
                                   It's both - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/16 14:47:49
                              The players weren't good enough - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/16 14:21:40
                                   Right. Bad coaching, bad effort, and bad talent is - FIJItiger MU - 9/16 14:26:23
          2 players left out of top 10 scorers and neither one - Rabbit Test MU - 9/16 13:02:03
     The guys that left are missed because they never became - StaleyTiger MU - 9/16 12:56:25
          Exactly. Losing J3, Teki, Namon, Gant, Isabell, and Allen - tgr MU - 9/16 13:45:58
               you had me, until you mentioned the last 2 guys - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/16 14:14:49
     They weren't used correctly or put in the position to - SabertoothTiger MU - 9/16 12:54:53
          JW3 was badly mis-utilized his sophomore year (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 9/16 12:58:59
               No, he was to weak to operated where he should have played - Uncle John MU - 9/16 13:46:39
                    So running the point was the proper way to utilize him? - FIJItiger MU - 9/16 13:48:32
                         Pretty sure J3 wasn't utilized incorrectly, - nerdmachine KC - 9/16 16:38:07
                         I think he let him do what he wanted, its called getting a - Uncle John MU - 9/16 14:06:20
                              Ok, got it - FIJItiger MU - 9/16 14:09:12
                                   It is when it doesn't matter(nm) - Uncle John MU - 9/16 14:10:03
                                        So using him properly couldn't have resulted in things like - FIJItiger MU - 9/16 14:13:31
                                             J3 wanted to prove he could shoot and be a stretch 4 - nerdmachine KC - 9/16 16:40:12
                                                  RE: J3 wanted to prove he could shoot and be a stretch 4 - StlWeir MU - 9/18 00:09:58
               no, he was and always will be a role player - Jeff85 MU - 9/16 13:40:17
                    I guess we'll see how much of a role player he is, starting - tigerdb MU - 9/16 13:47:00
                         I predict he will never be much more that a 10ppg type and - Jeff85 MU - 9/16 13:50:48
                              11.9 points and 7.9 rebounds a game with MARK FEW coaching - Rabbit Test MU - 9/16 14:05:58
                                   they won't need him to score much - Jeff85 MU - 9/16 14:13:19
                                        You are saying he won't look to score, won't - Rabbit Test MU - 9/16 14:20:29
                                             if you think he recruited him to be one of the primary - Jeff85 MU - 9/16 14:26:11
                                                  He averages 9 rebounds a game he - Rabbit Test MU - 9/16 14:41:28
                    Well, as a sophomore he was our go to player and - FIJItiger MU - 9/16 13:44:39
                         he was asked to step up and be the man and couldn't - Jeff85 MU - 9/16 13:48:27
                              Which sophomores will average 11.9 points and 7.9 - Rabbit Test MU - 9/16 14:07:58
                                   so you are saying he played well and wasn't used improperly - Jeff85 MU - 9/16 14:14:38
                                        I said he played well for an underclassman and I probably - Rabbit Test MU - 9/16 14:21:31
                                             agree, never said otherwise - Jeff85 MU - 9/16 14:35:05
                              Being asked to do something you can't is the very - FIJItiger MU - 9/16 13:50:30
                                   RE: Being asked to do something you can't is the very - StlWeir MU - 9/18 00:16:41
                                   Then what else was KA supposed to do? - nerdmachine KC - 9/16 16:43:02
                                   the roster was a disaster on the offensive end, think it - Jeff85 MU - 9/16 13:52:06
                                        So JW3 was put in a position to succeed that he was - FIJItiger MU - 9/16 13:56:03
                                             what is the best way to use a roster full of guys with - Jeff85 MU - 9/16 14:09:40
                                                  I don't know, I'm talking specifically about JW3 - FIJItiger MU - 9/16 14:18:16
               blah blah blah. I've heard it a thousand times. He wasn't - SabertoothTiger MU - 9/16 13:06:34
                    It's on Haith that J3 didn't develop from a frosh to a soph? - tigerdb MU - 9/16 13:32:35
                         yes, zero offensive skills - Jeff85 MU - 9/16 13:38:55
                    Seems like you are agreeing - FIJItiger MU - 9/16 13:16:32
                         Hold on a second here, - nerdmachine KC - 9/16 16:47:36
                              Point of order - haeffb MU - 9/16 19:02:02
                         it seems like I agree that - SabertoothTiger MU - 9/16 13:33:03
                              Thanks, that explains why if we hold the - FIJItiger MU - 9/16 13:46:31




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