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Posted on: August 5, 2016 at 18:32:20 CT
El_Tigre MU
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Number one, I don't claim to be correct. Everything I'm expressing here is my opinion and the personal conclusions I've reached about the situation. I could very easily be incorrect. I believe Earleywine should be fired, although I am almost certain he will be returning for the foreseeable future.

Second, those of you who have followed this board know I'm a big supporter of Missouri softball, especially the women who don the black and gold between the white lines. If you want to argue the points I make, that's completely fair, but don't argue whether or not I want the best for this program and this University. I hope my explanation of why I support firing Earleywine will help answer the question of "How could firing EE at this point be considered a good resolution by anyone?"


Now for my response:

First of all, there have been several incidents (mainly the 2014 Alabama dogpile fiasco and the emails with Missouri St.) that have cast Mizzou in a negative light. He received the NFCA censure for a reason. There are legitimate arguments that, even without abuse, that he's not fit to lead a major athletics program.

Putting that aside, although there are no Title IX violations, that only means there has been no sex-based discrimination. It does not necessarily mean that Earleywine was not abusing players.

I have heard from a variety of people that, in the past, he has overworked players to dangerous levels, forced players back from injury before medically ready, and restricted players' diets to extreme levels (leading to some players developing eating disorders. The alleged abuse is more than yelling at players and cursing too much, and it's hard to prove that it specifically occurs due to sexual discrimination.

I believe that, if Earleywine is fired, the University will have no choice but to release the allegations and evidence. It is my expectation that many Earleywine supporters will feel like fools if the treatment of players has been as bad as I think it has been.

Many have accused those who filed complaints as bench players upset that they didn't receive enough playing time, but it could be that, as bench players, they were subject to abuse that others were not.

Finally, many believe that this was spurred on by a personal vendetta that Mack Rhoades had against Earleywine. Put yourself in Rhoades's shoes: after the protests in November and the horrific on-field performance by football and men's basketball, why on Earth would he purposefully pick a fight with arguably the best coach currently at the school if there was nothing of substance going on? Plus, players have complained about the "hostile feminists" looking to get Earleywine fired, which is a complete misrepresentation of what feminism is and seeks to accomplish. I don't think that those accused of being out to get Earleywine have any incentive to attack him personally.

In conclusion, if Earleywine was abusing players (and again, I don't mean screaming and cussing), and I believe he was, that's enough reason to fire him. Combine that with his public persona, and, for me, it's a no-brainer to get rid of him and move on.

Edit: Just to clear up any possible confusion: I DO NOT CLAIM TO BE CORRECT. I know nothing for certain. These are simply conclusions I've reached that have led me to stand against Earleywine, and, if the administration fires him, they likely will have followed a similar line of reasoning.

Edited by El_Tigre at 18:36:35 on 08/05/16
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     Another who needs to be fired(nm) - TigerFan92 MU - 8/9 22:45:08
     These are professional bureaucrats. They get their cheese by - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 8/7 12:32:15
     Administrators think winning is easy - samclemens MU - 8/7 12:12:36
     Sounds like they've wanted to fire him from the get go - MKrip MU - 8/6 23:24:16
     If no violations were found, how could they fire him? - restore the roar MU - 8/6 18:27:39
     Very Disappointing, I was hoping for something better - DeltfromSTL MU - 8/6 05:57:04
          She is the fourth athletic director in a month - alstl MU - 8/6 12:18:25
          I was disappointed too.... - bluetiger_ MU - 8/6 06:07:59
               Yes, unfortunately it continues the veil of lack of directio - DeltfromSTL MU - 8/6 10:41:20
     I'm fed up with this Interim circle jerk. - jumbo73 MU - 8/5 21:32:51
          RE: I'm fed up with this Interim circle jerk. - XRob MU - 8/6 00:47:29
     RE: And here is Toppmeyers interview with Reesman... - Brock9 MU - 8/5 20:30:19
          And I agree mostly with your prediction.... - bluetiger_ MU - 8/5 20:48:25
          Hey no more posts for you.... - bluetiger_ MU - 8/5 20:35:58
               It's possible the transfer deal is linked to EE's fate...(nm) - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 8/5 20:58:06
                    RE: It's possible the transfer deal is linked to EE's fate...(nm) - Brock9 MU - 8/5 21:44:10
                         are you going to make me beat it... - bluetiger_ MU - 8/5 22:09:44
                              RE: are you going to make me beat it... - Brock9 MU - 8/6 07:20:15
                                   Also I'll stick with my original sense: Does she still want - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 8/6 10:41:22
                                        she will transfer regardless. - DollarSigns MU - 8/6 10:55:21
                                   Hopefully bluetiger is amassing a scout grade report - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 8/6 10:27:55
                                   Great high school player. The jury is out regarding her - Mizzou Tom KC - 8/6 09:58:10
                                   guessing she will be a redshirt sophomore - DollarSigns MU - 8/6 09:49:14
     A response to your final question: - El_Tigre MU - 8/5 18:32:20
          You sound like a lib(nm) - TigerFan92 MU - 8/5 23:35:41
          Thanks for your response.... - bluetiger_ MU - 8/5 21:46:35
               This will seem like a cop-out... - El_Tigre MU - 8/5 22:52:44
                    HEY! EL TIGRE! - hoosierdaddy MU - 8/6 13:08:42
                         HEY! HOOSIERDADDY! - El_Tigre MU - 8/6 19:39:37
                    The situation you describe is not this situation. - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 8/6 08:35:33
                    Sorry I just don't buy it.... - bluetiger_ MU - 8/6 05:58:07
                    You've already stated that you know nothing - DollarSigns MU - 8/5 23:10:05
               RE: Thanks for your response.... - Brock9 MU - 8/5 22:09:42
                    i think Mizzou fans are hungry for facts.... - bluetiger_ MU - 8/5 22:15:53
          RE: A response to your final question: - Brock9 MU - 8/5 21:45:13
          Wow, dems a lotta words that add up to: - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 8/5 19:05:29
          I appreciate your candor, but I disagree with 1 statement - XRob MU - 8/5 18:48:42
               The reason I think they'll release evidence (if he's fired): - El_Tigre MU - 8/5 19:00:58
                    And you better also consider that no significant smoking gun - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 8/5 19:08:26
     Man is Reesman bucking to be a politician or what! Nm - MU-TULSA MU - 8/5 16:59:38
          It's probably that pederast Hanrahan... - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 8/5 17:05:24
     Again, ridiculous. Not an answer in there. Typical bureaucra - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 8/5 15:40:21




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