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It doesn't matter what you think. What matters is facts

Posted on: November 14, 2024 at 00:48:23 CT
tigerman81 MU
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and the fact is that computer programs can and are biased.

Your real argument is which way and who does the bias benefit. You said it yourself. SEC wins count more than ACC wins, or any other wins for that matter. SEC loses count less than any other losses. And that is one of the metrics you would like someone writing a program to factor in.

Now what happens when a model is chosen which gives equal weighting to wins and losses?
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     Don't you love "uhhhhhs"? - Genco98 MU - 11/14 07:28:02
     Uh, no. (nm) - go tigers MU - 11/13 23:13:37
     DADGUM SAGARIN IS GOLL DURN KENPOM!!11 - Mothball MU - 11/13 22:44:49
          Agreed. (nm) - go tigers MU - 11/13 23:11:51
          For the same reason FSU was left out of last year's 4-team - zounami MU - 11/13 20:22:46
               RE: For the same reason FSU was left out of last year's 4-team - KC rules MU - 11/13 21:29:09
                    That's what happened with the 4-team playoff last year... - zounami MU - 11/13 22:22:23
     lets just all agree that this dead horse needs to continue - phrejd KC - 11/13 15:34:18
          Beat that mother****er! - ERB KC - 11/13 15:35:01
     IU is obviously a good story & I don’t - Gary P. MU - 11/13 15:12:00
     According to that, we've played the SEC's weakest schedule - Fourth and Long MU - 11/13 14:51:08
     They have them having a better chance of the CFP than us - MU-TULSA MU - 11/13 14:46:43
     Ummm ... Neither TV Execs nor the Bowl Committee - ERB KC - 11/13 14:43:17
          I don't get completely the fans of mid-tier type schools - Genco98 MU - 11/14 09:39:33
          Facts(nm) - Wildcat KSU - 11/13 15:39:07
          Well said(nm) - tigerman81 MU - 11/13 14:56:31
     The criteria is already set - tigerman81 MU - 11/13 14:37:21
          Sagarin has one of the better (or best) strength of - alwaysright MU - 11/14 05:34:47
          and Northern-Illinois beat Notre Dame in South Bend... - zounami MU - 11/13 14:35:33
               So why even play the games if results don't matter? - Eggs MU - 11/13 14:38:36
                    Results matter, but you're over-weighting a single game... - zounami MU - 11/13 14:52:23
                         There is no data that would support Ohio St over Oregon - SatoriTiger JC - 11/13 15:11:50
                              Wrong. Even if we just look at that single game... - zounami MU - 11/13 15:28:13
                                   Lol - SatoriTiger JC - 11/13 15:31:55
                         Computers do what they are programmed to do. They can - tigerman81 MU - 11/13 14:55:15
                              but they are consistent, objective, and far less biased than - zounami MU - 11/13 14:57:17
                                   I just told you a computer is just as biased as the person - tigerman81 MU - 11/13 15:04:09
                                        That's definitely false. A programmer/statistician does not - zounami MU - 11/13 15:21:45
                                             Clearly you don't understand how biases work. If - tigerman81 MU - 11/13 19:15:41
                                                  The feeling is mutual... - zounami MU - 11/13 20:09:16
                                                       It doesn't matter what you think. What matters is facts - tigerman81 MU - 11/14 00:48:23
                         Computer models are subject to the bias - meatiger MU - 11/13 14:53:41
                              I'm curious to eventually see AI do ratings and predictions - Eggs MU - 11/13 15:04:53
                                   agreed... that's the future (nm) - zounami MU - 11/13 15:23:03
                              "objective" does not mean there's no statistical bias... - zounami MU - 11/13 14:58:47
                                   Really? And who told the computer how to analyze - tigerman81 MU - 11/13 15:06:05
               Computers do not look at things objectively - meatiger MU - 11/13 14:37:14
                    explain... how are computer models *subjective* ? (nm) - zounami MU - 11/13 14:53:48
                         Because they require user input and weighting - Eggs MU - 11/13 14:59:42
                              but those weightings apply to all teams equally... - zounami MU - 11/13 15:19:07
     Good to know Sagarin is back in your good graces after - Lovely Rita UW - 11/13 14:31:33
          you're confused... - zounami MU - 11/13 14:47:03
          Most sites I am looking at have our schedule ranked 30 - Erwin Fletcher STL - 11/13 14:38:28
          Actual results are not weighted in their ratings enough - Eggs MU - 11/13 14:36:49
               those losses were just bad luck...Zou - meatiger MU - 11/13 14:37:52




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