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The point being bad practice does not make the practice

Posted on: July 9, 2021 at 10:12:38 CT

4TigersinMichigan MU

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correct. Law enforcement is given discretion on when to enforce laws. It is why they don't stop cars for going 71 in a 70 mph zone. You know this. But the role of judges is much different. The are to apply the law to the charges brought. Is there discretion in how that is done? Certainly. But ignoring the law because of popular opinion is not or should not be such a choice.

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lol MS - SwampTiger MU - 7/9 08:12:45

What a ***** - Panthera MU - 7/9 09:27:09

Why the lol? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/9 09:13:04

See ummms post below - meatiger MU - 7/9 09:19:43

So is it your contention if enough people want to do - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/9 09:21:38

which boundaries of the law is the initiative outside of? - ashtray UF - 7/9 09:28:44

No - meatiger MU - 7/9 09:28:06

Where did the court not do its job? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/9 09:29:43

It was a technicality - meatiger MU - 7/9 09:31:46

So you clearly don't understand the difference between the - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/9 09:32:26

What is the difference when it comes to enforcement of - ummmm MU - 7/9 09:48:56

Law enforcement has discretion on when or when not - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/9 09:49:48

How were their dissenting judges in this opinion?? - ummmm MU - 7/9 09:52:22

Because people have differing views on the law - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/9 09:55:57

Differing views on the law and how it applies = discretion.(nm) - ummmm MU - 7/9 09:59:02

And for the third time, they do have some discretion - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/9 09:59:58

Judges do that ALL THE TIME. - ummmm MU - 7/9 10:01:23

Justices created a right to privacy out of nothing - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/9 10:02:26

Yeah, but they did it. (nm) - ummmm MU - 7/9 10:03:10

And some CFO's embezzle from their company - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/9 10:05:31

Bad analogy. The right of privacy that was concocted by - ummmm MU - 7/9 10:09:37

The point being bad practice does not make the practice - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/9 10:12:38

they don't stop cars for going 71 in a 70 only because - ashtray UF - 7/9 10:49:02

Where is this discretion given?(nm) - meatiger MU - 7/9 10:13:31

In their role as law enforcement - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/9 10:15:27

Where is it written? - ummmm MU - 7/9 10:16:09

What part of judges having certain discretion don't you get? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/9 10:17:58

RE: What part of judges having certain discretion don't you get? - ummmm MU - 7/9 10:22:18

You don't think judges have discretion? - ummmm MU - 7/9 09:51:43

I said elsewhere they have discretion - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/9 09:56:45

Judges do that all the time. Just like your cool sheriff. - ummmm MU - 7/9 10:00:38

My cool sheriff is not a judge - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/9 10:03:05

same oath of office, i think(nm) - gmmm98 MU

- 7/9 12:46:44

Interestingly, you would probably call the Sheriff a "law - ummmm MU - 7/9 10:04:33

The judge's role is not law enforcement - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/9 10:07:50

Everywhere else in this thread, you keep saying that the - ummmm MU - 7/9 10:11:16

It is part of the law enforcement process - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/9 10:14:23

RE: It is part of the law enforcement process - ummmm MU - 7/9 10:16:44

See below - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/9 10:20:49

I read that wrong - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/9 10:19:45

The point does not remain. - ummmm MU - 7/9 10:23:40

No idea why he can't admit that - meatiger MU - 7/9 11:03:05

It is called law enforcement - meatiger MU - 7/9 10:11:03

You just made me laugh out loud again - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/9 10:15:52

As you should - meatiger MU - 7/9 11:03:51

The question is not about popular opinion - meatiger MU - 7/9 09:57:49

The OP brought the 74% into the dicussion - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/9 09:59:14

so if a police officer arrests me - meatiger MU - 7/9 09:34:59

So you don't understand the roles of the legislative branch, - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/9 09:38:17

What cracks me up is your definition of law and order - meatiger MU - 7/9 09:41:07

The sheriff had discretion on when to make an arrest - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/9 09:47:05

and a judge has discretion on whether the intent of the law - ashtray UF - 7/9 10:53:17

That is not LAW and ORDER - meatiger MU - 7/9 09:51:19

It most certainly is - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/9 09:58:18

Barney Fife is a fictional character - meatiger MU - 7/9 10:09:49

And he was included for a reason - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/9 10:16:56

using their brains - ashtray UF - 7/9 09:30:42

false dichotomy (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 7/9 09:13:49

Seriously, what is funny about what happened? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/9 09:20:19

Why the lol? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/9 09:15:09

the entire farce - SwampTiger MU - 7/9 09:20:22

So you are in favor of courts interpreting laws by means - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/9 09:23:22

false premise (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 7/9 09:25:19

No it is not - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/9 09:26:24

You find that admirable? - meatiger MU - 7/9 09:29:06

The court has a job to do - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/9 09:30:48

So the court should not use discretion? - meatiger MU - 7/9 09:32:35

There are differences in discretion - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/9 09:33:39

they do have discretion to apply the law as it was intended - ashtray UF - 7/9 10:55:37

But cops can ignore laws?(nm) - meatiger MU - 7/9 09:35:20

They should not ignore laws - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/9 09:39:21

that's the same thing as ignoring laws (nm) - ashtray UF - 7/9 10:55:54

Why should a court not have that same discretion? - meatiger MU - 7/9 09:42:30

Study the role of the courts versus the role of the - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/9 09:45:29

take your own advice (nm) - ashtray UF - 7/9 10:56:14

I understand the roles - meatiger MU - 7/9 09:46:52

No, you have demonstrated again and again just the - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/9 09:47:30

"... want the law ignored" - SwampTiger MU - 7/9 09:28:54

Did the Supreme Court act in accordance with the law - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/9 09:31:23

no, they did not apply the intent of the law (nm) - ashtray UF - 7/9 10:54:16

idk what their law says on courts interpreting the const - SwampTiger MU - 7/9 09:37:03

Humor is subjective - clearly in this instance(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/9 09:40:02

you didn't answer the question (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 7/9 09:42:25

I don't understand the question - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/9 09:48:56

no - SwampTiger MU - 7/9 09:57:34

Therein lies the challenge - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/9 10:01:34

so you don't know if they acted in accordance with the law?(nm) - SwampTiger MU - 7/9 10:57:47

yes there is a standard (nm) - ashtray UF - 7/9 10:54:55

consent of the governed (nm) - pickle MU

- 7/9 09:16:24

It’s popular, doesn’t mean it’s constitutional. And I’m not - hokie VT - 7/9 08:17:24

The court WOULD overturn that - kmawv8 KC - 7/9 08:48:12

Read the article before posting. - kmawv8 KC - 7/9 08:44:36

First, it's not an article, it's a bunch of tweets. Second, - hokie VT - 7/9 09:12:30

it was still obvious - ashtray UF - 7/9 09:19:26

try paying attention (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 7/9 09:16:27

you’re an idiot, hokie (nm) - pickle MU

- 7/9 09:15:29

hokkie is like a p*ssed off cat (nm) - ashtray UF - 7/9 08:48:11

It was struck down because a Mississippi statute prohibits - ummmm MU - 7/9 08:30:41

One edit: That requirement is in the Mississippi state - ummmm MU - 7/9 08:58:22

How did it even get to the ballot - meatiger MU - 7/9 08:48:33

I think because those that certify ballot initiatives were - ummmm MU - 7/9 08:53:19

Interesting - meatiger MU - 7/9 08:55:02

because people were using common sense(nm) - MizzouAstro MU

- 7/9 08:52:02

Sounds like Mississippi voters are not voting in the - kmawv8 KC - 7/9 08:45:47

will of the people, consent of the governed - pickle MU

- 7/9 08:42:43

you’re an idiot, hokie (nm) - pickle MU

- 7/9 08:24:04

RE: you’re an idiot: Pot, meet kettle. - BH O'bonga MU - 7/9 08:41:23

you have nothing (nm) - pickle MU

- 7/9 09:00:51

I sometimes wonder if he and JeffB are the same poster - ashtray UF - 7/9 09:02:40

yep (nm) - pickle MU

- 7/9 09:13:29

what is a Libertarian? (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 7/9 08:50:49

lol(nm) - meatiger MU - 7/9 08:22:38

that's not what I'm saying (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 7/9 08:19:08

How is that even possible? (nm) - Sal CMSU - 7/9 08:14:12

their supreme court - SwampTiger MU - 7/9 08:24:33

goddam (nm) - Sal CMSU - 7/9 08:25:33

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