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Therein lies the challenge

Posted on: July 9, 2021 at 10:01:34 CT
4TigersinMichigan MU
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There is no standard. This is why so many questions are often asked of justices to try and determine their method of judicial review.
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lol MS - SwampTiger MU - 7/9 08:12:45
     What a ***** - Panthera MU - 7/9 09:27:09
     Why the lol? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/9 09:13:04
          See ummms post below - meatiger MU - 7/9 09:19:43
               So is it your contention if enough people want to do - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/9 09:21:38
                    which boundaries of the law is the initiative outside of? - ashtray UF - 7/9 09:28:44
                    No - meatiger MU - 7/9 09:28:06
                         Where did the court not do its job? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/9 09:29:43
                              It was a technicality - meatiger MU - 7/9 09:31:46
                                   So you clearly don't understand the difference between the - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/9 09:32:26
                                        What is the difference when it comes to enforcement of - ummmm MU - 7/9 09:48:56
                                             Law enforcement has discretion on when or when not - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/9 09:49:48
                                                  How were their dissenting judges in this opinion?? - ummmm MU - 7/9 09:52:22
                                                       Because people have differing views on the law - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/9 09:55:57
                                                            Differing views on the law and how it applies = discretion.(nm) - ummmm MU - 7/9 09:59:02
                                                                 And for the third time, they do have some discretion - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/9 09:59:58
                                                                      Judges do that ALL THE TIME. - ummmm MU - 7/9 10:01:23
                                                                           Justices created a right to privacy out of nothing - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/9 10:02:26
                                                                                Yeah, but they did it. (nm) - ummmm MU - 7/9 10:03:10
                                                                                     And some CFO's embezzle from their company - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/9 10:05:31
                                                                                          Bad analogy. The right of privacy that was concocted by - ummmm MU - 7/9 10:09:37
                                                                                               The point being bad practice does not make the practice - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/9 10:12:38
                                                                                                    they don't stop cars for going 71 in a 70 only because - ashtray UF - 7/9 10:49:02
                                                                                                    Where is this discretion given?(nm) - meatiger MU - 7/9 10:13:31
                                                                                                         In their role as law enforcement - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/9 10:15:27
                                                                                                              Where is it written? - ummmm MU - 7/9 10:16:09
                                                                                                                   What part of judges having certain discretion don't you get? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/9 10:17:58
                                                                                                                        RE: What part of judges having certain discretion don't you get? - ummmm MU - 7/9 10:22:18
                                                  You don't think judges have discretion? - ummmm MU - 7/9 09:51:43
                                                       I said elsewhere they have discretion - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/9 09:56:45
                                                            Judges do that all the time. Just like your cool sheriff. - ummmm MU - 7/9 10:00:38
                                                                 My cool sheriff is not a judge - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/9 10:03:05
                                                                      same oath of office, i think(nm) - gmmm98 MU - 7/9 12:46:44
                                                                      Interestingly, you would probably call the Sheriff a "law - ummmm MU - 7/9 10:04:33
                                                                           The judge's role is not law enforcement - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/9 10:07:50
                                                                                Everywhere else in this thread, you keep saying that the - ummmm MU - 7/9 10:11:16
                                                                                     It is part of the law enforcement process - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/9 10:14:23
                                                                                          RE: It is part of the law enforcement process - ummmm MU - 7/9 10:16:44
                                                                                               See below - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/9 10:20:49
                                                                                               I read that wrong - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/9 10:19:45
                                                                                                    The point does not remain. - ummmm MU - 7/9 10:23:40
                                                                                                         No idea why he can't admit that - meatiger MU - 7/9 11:03:05
                                                                                It is called law enforcement - meatiger MU - 7/9 10:11:03
                                                                                     You just made me laugh out loud again - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/9 10:15:52
                                                                                          As you should - meatiger MU - 7/9 11:03:51
                                                            The question is not about popular opinion - meatiger MU - 7/9 09:57:49
                                                                 The OP brought the 74% into the dicussion - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/9 09:59:14
                                        so if a police officer arrests me - meatiger MU - 7/9 09:34:59
                                             So you don't understand the roles of the legislative branch, - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/9 09:38:17
                                                  What cracks me up is your definition of law and order - meatiger MU - 7/9 09:41:07
                                                       The sheriff had discretion on when to make an arrest - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/9 09:47:05
                                                            and a judge has discretion on whether the intent of the law - ashtray UF - 7/9 10:53:17
                                                            That is not LAW and ORDER - meatiger MU - 7/9 09:51:19
                                                                 It most certainly is - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/9 09:58:18
                                                                      Barney Fife is a fictional character - meatiger MU - 7/9 10:09:49
                                                                           And he was included for a reason - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/9 10:16:56
                              using their brains - ashtray UF - 7/9 09:30:42
          false dichotomy (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 7/9 09:13:49
               Seriously, what is funny about what happened? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/9 09:20:19
               Why the lol? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/9 09:15:09
                    the entire farce - SwampTiger MU - 7/9 09:20:22
                         So you are in favor of courts interpreting laws by means - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/9 09:23:22
                              false premise (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 7/9 09:25:19
                                   No it is not - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/9 09:26:24
                                        You find that admirable? - meatiger MU - 7/9 09:29:06
                                             The court has a job to do - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/9 09:30:48
                                                  So the court should not use discretion? - meatiger MU - 7/9 09:32:35
                                                       There are differences in discretion - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/9 09:33:39
                                                            they do have discretion to apply the law as it was intended - ashtray UF - 7/9 10:55:37
                                                            But cops can ignore laws?(nm) - meatiger MU - 7/9 09:35:20
                                                                 They should not ignore laws - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/9 09:39:21
                                                                      that's the same thing as ignoring laws (nm) - ashtray UF - 7/9 10:55:54
                                                                      Why should a court not have that same discretion? - meatiger MU - 7/9 09:42:30
                                                                           Study the role of the courts versus the role of the - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/9 09:45:29
                                                                                take your own advice (nm) - ashtray UF - 7/9 10:56:14
                                                                                I understand the roles - meatiger MU - 7/9 09:46:52
                                                                                     No, you have demonstrated again and again just the - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/9 09:47:30
                                        "... want the law ignored" - SwampTiger MU - 7/9 09:28:54
                                             Did the Supreme Court act in accordance with the law - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/9 09:31:23
                                                  no, they did not apply the intent of the law (nm) - ashtray UF - 7/9 10:54:16
                                                  idk what their law says on courts interpreting the const - SwampTiger MU - 7/9 09:37:03
                                                       Humor is subjective - clearly in this instance(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/9 09:40:02
                                                            you didn't answer the question (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 7/9 09:42:25
                                                                 I don't understand the question - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/9 09:48:56
                                                                      no - SwampTiger MU - 7/9 09:57:34
                                                                           Therein lies the challenge - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/9 10:01:34
                                                                                so you don't know if they acted in accordance with the law?(nm) - SwampTiger MU - 7/9 10:57:47
                                                                                yes there is a standard (nm) - ashtray UF - 7/9 10:54:55
                    consent of the governed (nm) - pickle MU - 7/9 09:16:24
     It’s popular, doesn’t mean it’s constitutional. And I’m not - hokie VT - 7/9 08:17:24
          The court WOULD overturn that - kmawv8 KC - 7/9 08:48:12
          Read the article before posting. - kmawv8 KC - 7/9 08:44:36
               First, it's not an article, it's a bunch of tweets. Second, - hokie VT - 7/9 09:12:30
                    it was still obvious - ashtray UF - 7/9 09:19:26
                    try paying attention (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 7/9 09:16:27
                    you’re an idiot, hokie (nm) - pickle MU - 7/9 09:15:29
               hokkie is like a p*ssed off cat (nm) - ashtray UF - 7/9 08:48:11
          It was struck down because a Mississippi statute prohibits - ummmm MU - 7/9 08:30:41
               One edit: That requirement is in the Mississippi state - ummmm MU - 7/9 08:58:22
               How did it even get to the ballot - meatiger MU - 7/9 08:48:33
                    I think because those that certify ballot initiatives were - ummmm MU - 7/9 08:53:19
                         Interesting - meatiger MU - 7/9 08:55:02
                    because people were using common sense(nm) - MizzouAstro MU - 7/9 08:52:02
               Sounds like Mississippi voters are not voting in the - kmawv8 KC - 7/9 08:45:47
               will of the people, consent of the governed - pickle MU - 7/9 08:42:43
          you’re an idiot, hokie (nm) - pickle MU - 7/9 08:24:04
               RE: you’re an idiot: Pot, meet kettle. - BH O'bonga MU - 7/9 08:41:23
                    you have nothing (nm) - pickle MU - 7/9 09:00:51
                         I sometimes wonder if he and JeffB are the same poster - ashtray UF - 7/9 09:02:40
                              yep (nm) - pickle MU - 7/9 09:13:29
                    what is a Libertarian? (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 7/9 08:50:49
          lol(nm) - meatiger MU - 7/9 08:22:38
          that's not what I'm saying (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 7/9 08:19:08
     How is that even possible? (nm) - Sal CMSU - 7/9 08:14:12
          their supreme court - SwampTiger MU - 7/9 08:24:33
               goddam (nm) - Sal CMSU - 7/9 08:25:33




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